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The bullies win again[W710; 739]

DA60 said:
I did not take your question seriously.


On a completely unrelated note...do you take people whom you believe are somewhat emotionally disturbed?

Neither do I.


Have a VERY nice day.
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I think you're borderline psychopathic. Interesting.

Have a nice day./
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Yes.



Yes.



I don't know or care what she was. She seems perfectly nice to me. What does that change?



I dunno either. I know she killed herself, though.



I do. Too bad, I guess.

Have a nice day.
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I will put a hypothetical to you;

what if a father (who is a cop) rapes his 8 year old child every day for 4 years. Finally, the child takes her own life because she cannot see any other way to stop him from raping her.

Now is he morally responsible at all for her suicide?

Yes or no?
 
OldWorldOrder said:
I think you're borderline psychopathic. Interesting.

Have a nice day./
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No I don't think you do.

Why you are getting personal is beyond me though.

I was simply answering your question and then asking you a question.

Your statement was out-of-the-blue.


Each to his own.



Have a nice day.
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
FluffyNinja, can you please stop avoiding the question? What does any of this have to do with bullying?
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.....*sighs*......The generally agreed upon definition of "bullying" is: the use of force or coercion to abuse or intimidate others.

The predator who originally circulated her pic THREATENED to send the pic to her friends and family if she did not post more. This is blackmail or simply put, a form of coercion. He followed through. Her peers who saw the pic called her a whore, ridiculed her, and ostracized her. A former guy friend obviously used her vulnerable state to press her for sex, then a group of girls who found out physically assaulted her at school. She was encouraged by others to kill herself and told by peers that she deserved to die. None of these actions (which ALL directly or indirectly resulted from the first case of cyberstalking) qualify as "bullying" in your book? If not, then I don't know what else to say? :shrug:
 
DA60 said:
I will put a hypothetical to you;

what if a father (who is a cop) rapes his 8 year old child every day for 4 years. Finally, the child takes her own life because she cannot see any other way to stop him from raping her.

Now is he morally responsible at all for her suicide?

Yes or no?
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I thought I was supposed to have a nice day.

Why was the example an 8 year old as opposed to a 12 or 16 year old? Hmmmm.
 
DA60 said:
No you don't.


Have a nice day.
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Uhh, yes, I do. You're talking about being against bullying while bullying anyone that disagrees with you. But you don't recognize the hypocrisy. I think it's due to mind-blindness (subtle autism), related to psychopathy. Can you see how you're trying to create a moral high ground here? Of course you can't. Very psychopathic.

Have a nice day.
 
FluffyNinja said:
.....*sighs*......The generally agreed upon definition of "bullying" is: the use of force or coercion to abuse or intimidate others.

The predator who originally circulated her pic THREATENED to send the pic to her friends and family if she did not post more. This is blackmail or simply put, a form of coercion. He followed through. Her peers who saw the pic called her a whore, ridiculed her, and ostracized her. A former guy friend obviously used her vulnerable state to press her for sex, then a group of girls who found out physically assaulted her at school. She was encouraged by others to kill herself and told by peers that she deserved to die. None of these actions (which ALL directly or indirectly resulted from the first case of cyberstalking) qualify as "bullying" in your book? If not, then I don't know what else to say? :shrug:
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So the problem here sounds like blackmail and assault. Not random "bullying".

Still, I believe her death was self-inflicted. Sounds like she, herself, might be responsible for that. Maybe?
 
OldWorldOrder said:
No, I asked why you weren't ridiculing the idea of bullicide. Go back and look, you're still having issues I guess.

Take some responsibility for them.
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I think you're having so much fun reading what you type that you've lost track of what you've asked anyone in the first place.
 
FluffyNinja said:
I think you're having so much fun reading what you type that you've lost track of what you've asked anyone in the first place.
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I think you're full of self-righteous hate for people that harassed a girl that ended up committing suicide, so much so that you're saying that they're more to blame for her actions than she is.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
So the problem here sounds like blackmail and assault. Not random "bullying".

Still, I believe her death was self-inflicted. Sounds like she, herself, might be responsible for that. Maybe?
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Who said anything about "random"? Are you simply adding your own made up "facts" to the story now?

And no, not simply that. What about the online intimidation, name calling , and open appeals for her to kill herself? Why are you conveniently leaving those particular actions out? Let me guess.....doesn't support your assertions? Hmmm....okay, I get your game. :roll:
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Uhh, yes, I do. You're talking about being against bullying while bullying anyone that disagrees with you. But you don't recognize the hypocrisy. I think it's due to mind-blindness (subtle autism), related to psychopathy. Can you see how you're trying to create a moral high ground here? Of course you can't. Very psychopathic.

Have a nice day.
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Lol.

Are you against bullying? yes or no?

Assuming the answer is 'yes'; then show me unbiased, factual proof that your actions in this thread are any less 'bullying' then mine?

And if you cannot, then you are just as much a hypocrite (according to your definition) as I am.

Which makes you (again, by your definition) psychopathic as well.


And btw, I am not trying to create a 'moral high ground'. I am simply asking you questions, answering some of yours.


Have a nice day.
 
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FluffyNinja said:
Who said anything about "random"? Are you simply adding your own made up "facts" to the story now?

And no, not simply that. What about the online intimidation, name calling , and open appeals for her to kill herself? Why are you conveniently leaving those particular actions out? Let me guess.....doesn't support your assertions? Hmmm....okay, I get your game. :roll:
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Because those by themselves wouldn't make someone kill themselves? If you can't take someone telling you to kill yourself, on its own, you should probably kill yourself.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
I think you're full of self-righteous hate for people that harassed a girl that ended up committing suicide, so much so that you're saying that they're more to blame for her actions than she is.
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What does my self-righteousness have to do with any of this? :2bow:
 
OldWorldOrder said:
I think you're full of self-righteous hate for people that harassed a girl that ended up committing suicide, so much so that you're saying that they're more to blame for her actions than she is.
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Prove they are not using unbiased, factual proof.


Have a nice day.
 
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DA60 said:
Lol.

Are you against bullying? yes or no?

Assuming the answer is 'yes'; then show me unbiased, factual proof that your actions in this thread are any less 'bullying' then mine?

And if you cannot, then you are just as much a hypocrite (according to your definition) as I am.

Which makes you (again, by your definition) psychopathic as well.


Have a nice day.
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Whoa, this was a bad post. Sorry man, hopefully you come back strong.
 
DA60 said:
Prove they are not using unbiased, factual proof.


Have a nice day.
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Jeez, bad again. You're on a roll. Prove that you are not using unbiased, factual proof.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Because those by themselves wouldn't make someone kill themselves? If you can't take someone telling you to kill yourself, on its own, you should probably kill yourself.
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What qualifies you to decide that these actions alone would/could not cause a confused kid to kill herself?
 
FluffyNinja said:
What does my self-righteousness have to do with any of this? :2bow:
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Well, it shows you're not being rational, for one. You're just upset that the girl is dead. That's great. That doesn't mean that anyone else is more responsible for her death than she is, though.

Two separate ideas. I hope you grasp that someday.
 
FluffyNinja said:
Guilt maybe?.......:shrug:
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I think Pirate is sincere in his concern about our freedom of speech, and Henrin really is struggling to understand the dynamic.

But this OldWorldOrder and Excon? They both clearly seem to want us to continue to feed our kids to marauding adults for sport, and that enthusiasm for the "right" to drive a child to suicide is nothing short of repugnant.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Having not killed myself via bullying.
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a) sorry you were (supposedly) bullied.

b) So you were bullied in exactly the same way as she was and have exactly the same life experiences she had and have the exact same personality as she had?

Unless you can say 'yes' to all those things - your experiences are irrelevant in so far as qualifying yourself to answer that question.
 
Pinkie said:
I think Pirate is sincere in his concern about our freedom of speech, and Henrin really is struggling to understand the dynamic.

But this OldWorldOrder and Excon? They both clearly seem to want us to continue to feed our kids to marauding adults for sport, and that enthusiasm for the "right" to drive a child to suicide is nothing short of repugnant.
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I think your description is spot on.
 
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