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The bullies win again[W710; 739]

Did you even read about this girl?

We are not just talking about 'suggestion'.

We are talking about assault, blackmail and a host of other illegal things...let alone all the apparent cruelty.

No, I didn't watch the video and I don't care too. If they assaulted her that is a crime that should be treated as such but bullying itself should not be a crime.

And if someone is abused enough, their suicide is no longer just their responsibility. It is also the responsibility of those that committed that abuse.

I'm sorry, but if you kill yourself because people do things to you that is your responsibility. It can be no other way.

You disagree? You are wrong...end of story.

I think you are far to emotional for any sort of discussion to be had with you.
 
Theres a technical term for that advise its called reprisal. I say thats the best advise of the forum. I am glad you gave those people that advise. :good_job::clap: You said it better than I could by far. Thnx.

Yeah, well, it's not a very popular position to take, these days. I'll tell you...my wife sure didn't like that I said it, and I gotta more than a couple angry looks from the lady who ran the show, and quite a few of the moms there were giving me the evil eye, too. I'd say that thought the even was outdoors, once I spoke the words, the temp went down...at least 10 degrees, easily. I felt VERY unwelcome, after that, and didn't even so much as get a "come back next year!" on leaving, lol.

Whatever. I honestly don't care too much about other people's kids, so they can tell them to do whatever they want, I KNOW what I'm gonna tell my son about it.
 
I hope you mean a fight to improve the situation or to call out the bullyies to the school. Physical is just repeating the cycle.

No, I mean fisticuffs, pugilism. A physical altercation is every bullies worst fear. Do you think bullies care one way or another about getting into trouble? From my experience, most bullies are troubled kids to begin with, kids who already get into their fair share of trouble, either due to poor grades, skipping school, acting out in class, etc. Oft they are of the more popular class of kids, which is why other kids stand by and witness something so wrong as bullying, and do nothing about it.

At first, I thought the same as you, though. I would tell a teacher. I would go home and tell my parents. My mom would go to school and talk to the teachers about it, etc. All of these things did nothing but make the problem worse, because it calls ATTENTION to it, which is what every bully wants. They want people focused on their target, and not themselves. It's like throwing chum into shark infested waters while there are divers overboard...it's asking for trouble. I got into my first real fight in 5th grade. With a kid who had been bullying me since I first started grade school. Before the fight, there was not a day that went by that this kid didn't do SOMETHING, be it push me while in line, or push me from behind while I was peeing to make me miss or whatever, or thump my ear, etc. After the fight, that kid never, not once, ever, bothered me again. Nor any of his friends. Never had another problem for the rest of the year, really. Then I got into middle school...different building, different kids. The bullying started up again. I got into three separate fights in middle school, and got busted for fighting once. Got into trouble. But you wanna know how many problems I had with bullies after those first few fights? Not a single ****ing problem, from ANYONE. Did I WIN all three fights? No. One got busted up by a teacher, one I won handily, and the other I got beat up by three boys. Then high school. And I only had to get into ONE fight in highschool, to make the new round of bullying stop. And I beat THAT kid bloody. After that? Three years of school, sans bullying.

I've had anger issues most my life. I am dealing with that now, and I feel I've gotten a lot better. it's the flip side, the ugly side, of the coin. Yes, determination, yes, all those other positive traits, all results of bullying. But also the anger. Do nothing about bullies, and you'll learn all you'll ever need to know about the kind of festering, seething rage that can poison a person for most of their young life. The kind of bottled up rage that causes a kid to go to school with guns and open fire. Or to kill themselves.


The only good bully is a bleeding bully.
 
Ok but how does a person with Aspergers who has no ability to "overcome" his disability overcome it. these are developmentally disabled persons who do not by their disability have the ability to defend themselves either verbally or otherwise. You are apparently not aware or do not realize/understand that there ARE people out there who cannot stand up for themselves or deal with the concept let alone the reality of bullying and when the school system not only fosters this behavior in students but in teachers as well as in my sons case, how is he to COPE? No one stood up for him NO ONE, No one helped him they told him to suck it up and be a man or ridiculed him because of his emotional responses which were the only ones he had.
You may believe that faith makes all thing possible and that is fine for you. But the real world of the developmentally disabled has no such assurances. The only hope he had was the maybe someday this would end. the only faith he had was that he had faith is would not end. The school and school system also had faith that they could get away with doing this to my son and allowing it to happen without consequences. And they were right. I would like to mention another factor but the only thing I will say is that this happened in the south. You can draw from that whatever conclusions you wish. Unfortunately this is the rule here rather than the exception.

My point is please realize that there are persons out there who do not fit into your mold or concept of these issues and that they are helpless in environments such as these. I have literally made myself sick trying to get my son out of that sitiation and as a result I am no longer able to work. My wife has faired just slightly better.

Your 'facts of life" are not within his comprehension and can never be. If a subject like this comes up again I hope you keep my words in your mind.

Is your son the target of bullies?

Someone in your position, you have to be a lot more proactive, than others, like myself. I believe, anyway. In so many ways, you have to represent your son for him, in things that he is incapable of representing himself on.
 
No, I mean fisticuffs, pugilism. A physical altercation is every bullies worst fear. Do you think bullies care one way or another about getting into trouble? From my experience, most bullies are troubled kids to begin with, kids who already get into their fair share of trouble, either due to poor grades, skipping school, acting out in class, etc. Oft they are of the more popular class of kids, which is why other kids stand by and witness something so wrong as bullying, and do nothing about it.

At first, I thought the same as you, though. I would tell a teacher. I would go home and tell my parents. My mom would go to school and talk to the teachers about it, etc. All of these things did nothing but make the problem worse, because it calls ATTENTION to it, which is what every bully wants. They want people focused on their target, and not themselves. It's like throwing chum into shark infested waters while there are divers overboard...it's asking for trouble. I got into my first real fight in 5th grade. With a kid who had been bullying me since I first started grade school. Before the fight, there was not a day that went by that this kid didn't do SOMETHING, be it push me while in line, or push me from behind while I was peeing to make me miss or whatever, or thump my ear, etc. After the fight, that kid never, not once, ever, bothered me again. Nor any of his friends. Never had another problem for the rest of the year, really. Then I got into middle school...different building, different kids. The bullying started up again. I got into three separate fights in middle school, and got busted for fighting once. Got into trouble. But you wanna know how many problems I had with bullies after those first few fights? Not a single ****ing problem, from ANYONE. Did I WIN all three fights? No. One got busted up by a teacher, one I won handily, and the other I got beat up by three boys. Then high school. And I only had to get into ONE fight in highschool, to make the new round of bullying stop. And I beat THAT kid bloody. After that? Three years of school, sans bullying.

I've had anger issues most my life. I am dealing with that now, and I feel I've gotten a lot better. it's the flip side, the ugly side, of the coin. Yes, determination, yes, all those other positive traits, all results of bullying. But also the anger. Do nothing about bullies, and you'll learn all you'll ever need to know about the kind of festering, seething rage that can poison a person for most of their young life. The kind of bottled up rage that causes a kid to go to school with guns and open fire. Or to kill themselves.


The only good bully is a bleeding bully.

I do not prescribe to this. I learned a long time ago that my tongue is more of a weapon than my fists ever will be. In high school I was able to reduce a "bully" to tears. All I had to do was make sure I was around people when I did it. Also a little cloak and dagger never hurt either.

In all the fights I have been in (few) or seen I have never seen any lasting effect come of it. You beat the piss out of someone but does that really change their minds. Around the winner (if there is such a thing) yes but in reallity Not a chance. I prefer long term solutions to the quick fix.

If you mess with someones mind and other people see it, the effects are very long term. Those I used this tactic on stopped messing with others or me in short order. The people I fought did not.
 
I do not prescribe to this. I learned a long time ago that my tongue is more of a weapon than my fists ever will be. In high school I was able to reduce a "bully" to tears. All I had to do was make sure I was around people when I did it. Also a little cloak and dagger never hurt either.

In all the fights I have been in (few) or seen I have never seen any lasting effect come of it. You beat the piss out of someone but does that really change their minds. Around the winner (if there is such a thing) yes but in reallity Not a chance. I prefer long term solutions to the quick fix.

If you mess with someones mind and other people see it, the effects are very long term. Those I used this tactic on stopped messing with others or me in short order. The people I fought did not.

Different experiences, then. Possibly cultural. I grew up in the south. To try to use wit, or even insults, for me, usually just resulted in me defending myself physically. You've gotta note, I have never, not once, started a fight. I have never thrown the first punch. Half the times I've been in fights are results of simply not backing down. For me, from what I have learned, that is a bullies worst fear...a victim who is not cowed. Standing up forces their hand. Now they choose...surrender all credability, and walk away before this person who is not yielding ground, or escalate the situation into a known territory...a fight. Yes, I've spoken of the fights I've been in. Something I might have added are the number of fights I've NOT been in, as a result of bullies simply skulking away. But those are numerous.

Whatever weapon you choose, the important thing is to stand your ground.
 
Different experiences, then. Possibly cultural. I grew up in the south. To try to use wit, or even insults, for me, usually just resulted in me defending myself physically. You've gotta note, I have never, not once, started a fight. I have never thrown the first punch. Half the times I've been in fights are results of simply not backing down. For me, from what I have learned, that is a bullies worst fear...a victim who is not cowed. Standing up forces their hand. Now they choose...surrender all credability, and walk away before this person who is not yielding ground, or escalate the situation into a known territory...a fight. Yes, I've spoken of the fights I've been in. Something I might have added are the number of fights I've NOT been in, as a result of bullies simply skulking away. But those are numerous.

Whatever weapon you choose, the important thing is to stand your ground.

I am very glad and happy to hear how you responded I thought you would be one of those like my brother was how tried to solve all his problemss with his fists. He failed horribly and it made him very bitter. Now do not get the idea that my brother and 65 lb weakling either. He is and was in high school 6ft 3 and roughly 235 pounds. He was a weight lifter and track guy. Not a wimp. He just could not get it through his head that what he was doing would not change anything.
I don't necessarily agree with your last statement either. My background is culturally very different from most Americans and so we were taught from childhood was that what other people thought of us or did not think of us was immaterial. How we thought about ourselves was. So if a situation arose where the best option was to walk away i did. I felt no shame or humiliation about it. They could think what they wanted I did not give a ****.
My perception of me was all that counted. When I started running track and playing volleyball, I only competed against me but did it by trying to beat them if that makes sense.

So for me the only ground that is important in this regard is what is between my ears.
 
No, I didn't watch the video and I don't care too. If they assaulted her that is a crime that should be treated as such but bullying itself should not be a crime.



I'm sorry, but if you kill yourself because people do things to you that is your responsibility. It can be no other way.



I think you are far to emotional for any sort of discussion to be had with you.

A) So. For example. If a child is molested by a loved one over and over for years and endsup killing themselves to stop being molested...the rapist has no responsibility for the child's suicide?

If you think that, you have no idea what you are talking about.

And B) I am not emotional about it...I am just completely sure of myself on this.

I don't get 'emotional' debating with faceless strangers on a chat forum.

Please.


Have a nice day.
 
You know, after reading though this thread, i think some people just like to argue just for the sake of argument.
Some people are just down right inconsiderate, stone cold idiots.

that's all i have to say about that (Gump)
 
Yeah, well, it's not a very popular position to take, these days. I'll tell you...my wife sure didn't like that I said it, and I gotta more than a couple angry looks from the lady who ran the show, and quite a few of the moms there were giving me the evil eye, too. I'd say that thought the even was outdoors, once I spoke the words, the temp went down...at least 10 degrees, easily. I felt VERY unwelcome, after that, and didn't even so much as get a "come back next year!" on leaving, lol.

Whatever. I honestly don't care too much about other people's kids, so they can tell them to do whatever they want, I KNOW what I'm gonna tell my son about it.

You know what my mom would have been just like the those moms in that room, except she witnessed first hand me getting my ass beat and I not lifting a finger cause of her instructions previous which I was grass and they were the lawnmower if I got into a fight. She changed her mind right quick after that, apprarnetly she dont take too kindly to her kids getting their asses beat if it aint her. Love ya mom. :)
 
A) So. For example. If a child is molested by a loved one over and over for years and endsup killing themselves to stop being molested...the rapist has no responsibility for the child's suicide?

The person that molested the child is responsible for the molestation while the suicide is all on the person that did the act of killing themselves, so yeah.
 
The person that molested the child is responsible for the molestation while the suicide is all on the person that did the act of killing themselves, so yeah.
Let's be clear.

And, in your opinion, the person that molested this person over and over and over and showed no signs of stopping from molesting this poor child bares zero legal and ethical responsibility in the suicide of the child he continued to molest?

Yes or no?
 
When I was a kid, I never met a bully who liked picking on me more than he disliked being beat about the head with one of my textbooks. Since I was a straight A student and they were never even close, I could always get away with it.
 
Let's be clear.

And, in your opinion, the person that molested this person over and over and over and showed no signs of stopping from molesting this poor child bares zero legal and ethical responsibility in the suicide of the child he continued to molest?

Yes or no?

Very nicely worded in a way to try to make me sound like an evil asshole. The crime the molester is guilty of is molesting the child and if the child decides to later kill themselves perhaps in part from what was done to them, that is on them.
 
Bullies are nothing but cowards. What does it take to sit behind a keyboard and torment someone, it takes much less to stand behind a crowd of people and subject another to a living hell. I do not believe I have ever been bullied, per se. What I have done and continue to do is tell the bully to come to me a try out there spineless crap on someone who will "hit" back. Been like that my whole life. I can tell you just about every time the bully was at some point in their own life a victim of another's bullying. It gets better, especially in an internet format, when there is ganging up in a bulling session. There is nothing to be proud of when causing another such harm, there is nothing to be gained it just tears at the fabric of what we are as a society. Those that applaud such actions are as spineless as the one committing the acts.

Clearly this girl had done whatever she could do within her own survival skills. We are aware of this because she committed suicide. Had she not done so we may have never heard of her, this is one issue that I am tireless in combating.
Granted, circumstances dictate, but I see a threat of violence, as an act of a bully.




Yes, because one morning this girl got up and - independent of any actions by anybody else - she decided to kill herself. Please don't go into the mental health profession.
Basically, yes!
Most people can withstand such.
Those who are unstable cannot, and take their life.


Clearly she was unstable.







I want Draconian methods to be passed to deter bullying once and for all. Currently, what we are doing is not enough.

What do you think ought to be done?
Draconian methods?
That wouldn't help at all.

Secondly we need to distinguish between teasing and actual bullying.

My definition would be any threats of, or actual violence, and constant teasing to the point of harassment.
The constant teasing of a lesser degree of bullying.







Some of these posts are absolutely disgusting, and some of you should be absolutely shamed!!!
Why?


This was a CHILD who took her own life, and some of you have absolutely NO compassion for what pain she must have experienced in order to go through with it.
This is a debate forum.
Emotion should be removed from the equation.
And removing emotion does not mean that ones does not have any for the person. Nor should emotion dictate how one looks at the circumstances.



I take some of these comments VERY personally, as I have been very personally effected by the suicide of someone very close to me. Selfishness has NOTHING to do with it morons!
Well when one only considers how their actions will affect others, it is selfish. Is it not?
Having said that, I think it would be better to say that selfishness does not come into the equation when one wants to end it all.



How does anyone know whether or not this girl suffered from a mental illness? She could have.
She most likely did. Which would be a reason not to care that she took her own life.


Have some effing compassion for the girl AND her family.
Having compassion does not somehow change anything that anybody has said, nor would it.
Do you somehow think it would?



The family is most likely SUFFERING terribly!
Yes they most likely are. Some families just should not be having children. This may be one of them.


Imagine the state of mind and the suffering you must have to be in to actually take your own life.
And?
It doesn't change a darn thing.
As a society, it would be better if we could prevent such people from being born in the first place.






Where are you getting that? The girl had naked pictured of her distributed across the web. Presumably she was a minor when that happened so it's kiddie porn. Furthermore she was beaten and left in a ditch. That's assault.

Did you watch the video?
I watched the video.
It was a "Woe is me!" one.
She was wrong for the flashing and the guy was wrong for using it against her in the way he did.

And she got beat-up for her actions. Not that I believe it was a sufficient reason, but it was for her actions.


And she went and laid down in a ditch.

"Teachers ran over but I just went and layed in a ditch and my dad found me."
 
im not really sure if this is the proper place for this, but since it's the topic of bullying, i guess it's ok to place it here.

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This is a very tragic story of a girl that commited suicide because of bullying. Yes, she made some big mistakes, but these mistakes do not make it ok to bully.

This is the video that she post prior to killing herself. very sad.

This needs to stop!



Amanda Todd: Bullied Canadian Teen Commits Suicide After Prolonged Battle Online And In School


in 3...2...1.... here comes the pro-bully posts


Sooner or later.....for whatever reason, she was going to off herself..

Suicide, a permanent answer to a temporary problem.
 
Granted, circumstances dictate, but I see a threat of violence, as an act of a bully.




Basically, yes!
Most people can withstand such.
Those who are unstable cannot, and take their life.


Clearly she was unstable.







Draconian methods?
That wouldn't help at all.

Secondly we need to distinguish between teasing and actual bullying.

My definition would be any threats of, or actual violence, and constant teasing to the point of harassment.
The constant teasing of a lesser degree of bullying.







Why?


This is a debate forum.
Emotion should be removed from the equation.
And removing emotion does not mean that ones does not have any for the person. Nor should emotion dictate how one looks at the circumstances.



Well when one only considers how their actions will affect others, it is selfish. Is it not?
Having said that, I think it would be better to say that selfishness does not come into the equation when one wants to end it all.




She most likely did. Which would be a reason not to care that she took her own life.


Having compassion does not somehow change anything that anybody has said, nor would it.
Do you somehow think it would?



Yes they most likely are. Some families just should not be having children. This may be one of them.


And?
It doesn't change a darn thing.
As a society, it would be better if we could prevent such people from being born in the first place.







I watched the video.
It was a "Woe is me!" one.
She was wrong for the flashing and the guy was wrong for using it against her in the way he did.

And she got beat-up for her actions. Not that I believe it was a sufficient reason, but it was for her actions.


And she went and laid down in a ditch.

"Teachers ran over but I just went and layed in a ditch and my dad found me."

Yet another disgusting post. Emotions have EVERYTHING to do with this particular thread. All of your premises are retarded and sound like they came from somebody who is suffering from mental illness of another kind.

She was a CHILD! Children are notorious for not having good coping skills. That is only ONE reason why they are STILL children at 16 years old. They DO NOT have the emotional or mental capabilities that adults do. Why you people have such a difficult time understanding that, I don't know, but you really make yourselves sound like unfeeling assholes. I am SO glad I don't know anyone like you personally.
 
Sooner or later.....for whatever reason, she was going to off herself..

Suicide, a permanent answer to a temporary problem.

That's not true. There are plenty of people who have suicidal ideation and NEVER go through with actual suicide. This stuff can be treated! The problem is recognizing the signs (if there are any - there are NOT always signs that are so easily recognizable).

I used to feel the same way until suicide affected ME personally. Let me tell me, if it ever does, you will have MUCH more compassion for these people.
 
Yet another disgusting post.
iLOL
:lamo
Wrong!
There is nothing disgusting about it.

Whether you like it or not, she is solely responsible for her actions.



Emotions have EVERYTHING to do with this particular thread.
Not if it is going to be debated.
And nobody should be ashamed for participating except those who are criticizing other posters.



All of your premises are retarded and sound like they came from somebody who is suffering from mental illness of another kind.
Nothing but uncalled for emotional and hypocritical tripe.

Whether you like it or not, she is solely responsible for her actions.




She was a CHILD! Children are notorious for not having good coping skills. That is only ONE reason why they are STILL children at 16 years old. They DO NOT have the emotional or mental capabilities that adults do. Why you people have such a difficult time understanding that, I don't know, but you really make yourselves sound like unfeeling assholes. I am SO glad I don't know anyone like you personally.
So what?
[sarcasm]Your above statement is why all the children are out there committing suicide right?[/sarcasm]
Of course not. All the kids are not commuting suicide, because the vast majority cope just fine, even with similar circumstance.
She was unstable.

Whether you like it or not, she is solely responsible for her actions.
 
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:lamo
Wrong!
There is nothing disgusting about it.

Whether you like it or not, she is solely responsible for her actions.

Nope, children are NEVER solely responsible for their actions. That is why they are not out there on their own . . . because MOST of time of they are incapable! I wonder if you have children of your own, or if maybe you are a child yourself.



Not if it is going to be debated.
And nobody should be ashamed for participating except those who are criticizing other posters.

What's to debate? Who you want to lay the blame on? So you'll choose to blame the child? The ones who should be ashamed are the ones who have absolutely no compassion for the pain and suffering of a child.

Nothing but uncalled for emotional tripe.

Whether you like it or not, she is solely responsible for her actions.

Whether you like it or not, you cannot blame people who don't have their full capacities (as in the case of CHILDREN). Everything is not so black and white. (I find myself saying this a lot lately). Some people suffer every day and every minute of their lives with suicidal thoughts and depression! It is a disease and it is NOT their fault!


So what?
[sarcasm]Your above statement is why all the children are out there committing suicide right?[/sarcasm] Of course not. All the kids are not commuting suicide, because the vast majority cope just fine, even with similar circumstance.
She was unstable.


Thank you for admitting to that. If she was unstable AND a child, then there are TWO things which make her NOT responsible.

Whether you like it or not, she is solely responsible for her actions.

NO she isn't, whether you like it or not. Teen years are full of angst and pain. Teen's brains are not yet equipped to deal with a LOT of emotional/mental things. Teens and children DO NOT realize the permanency or destructiveness of their decisions. That is why they are considered CHILDREN. I don't know why you cannot grasp that simple concept.
 
People are so much more complicated than "right and wrong" or "good and bad." There are things that we still don't know about our own brains . . . that is how complicated we are, especially in the emotional/mental realm. We don't know what has happened in this little girl's past. ANYTHING could have happened to this little girl. The things she did recently (the internet stuff and the suicide) could be simply side effects, so to pass judgment is completely horrible.

This is not a "who do I blame" situation. It is a horrible tragedy that may or may not have been able to be prevented. Many of these situations arise out of a lack of understanding, missing signs, denial, and there are all KINDS of human emotional dynamics involved.

The sad thing is that there is a little girl who will NEVER get to experience a lot of the joys in the life, and a family who will grieve FOREVER over the loss of a beautiful daughter and the future she may have had.
 
Nope, children are NEVER solely responsible for their actions.
Ah... yes they are. It is why even 16 year old's can be tried as an adult.


or if maybe you are a child yourself.
iLOL
More uncalled for tripe. And you have the audacity to call others disgusting? Yeah, ok hypocrite.
Grow up!



Who you want to lay the blame on? So you'll choose to blame the child?
She is the blame for taking her life. Period. Not someone else. She is.
The others, as already stated, are responsible for their actions.



The ones who should be ashamed are the ones who have absolutely no compassion for the pain and suffering of a child.
iLOL
You are confusing compassion, with not laying blame where it belongs. Others are not inclined to ignore the obvious.
HAving compassion for her, her family, and the circumstance they all found their selves in, does not in any way shape or form say that we should not lay blame where it belongs.
They are two separate things.
I would suggest you try to separate them.



Whether you like it or not, you cannot blame people who don't have their full capacities (as in the case of CHILDREN).
Everything is not so black and white. (I find myself saying this a lot lately).
Yes a person can, and yes it is. You are confusing accountability and responsibility. But regardless. She has both in this case.


Some people suffer every day and every minute of their lives with suicidal thoughts and depression! It is a disease and it is NOT their fault!
No one said it wasn't a disease or that having such was their fault. Did they?
But it does not change the fact that she is responsible for her actions. Strange that you do not see that.


Alcoholism is a disease also. One that while inebriated, puts one in a state of diminished capacity. But if they make a decision in such diminished capacity to get behind the wheel and drive, I bet you will hold them responsible for their actions in a heart beat. Even when they haven't hurt anyone.


Thank you for admitting to that. If she was unstable AND a child, then there are TWO things which make her NOT responsible.
Admitting that? There was nothing to admit. In addition, and you seem confused, because I already stated it previously.
But it in no way makes her not responsible, because she most definitely is.



NO she isn't, whether you like it or not. Teen years are full of angst and pain. Teen's brains are not yet equipped to deal with a LOT of emotional/mental things. Teens and children DO NOT realize the permanency or destructiveness of their decisions. That is why they are considered CHILDREN. I don't know why you cannot grasp that simple concept.
Of course she is responsible for her actions. Your simple concept is just that. Simple. Nor does it make the person not responsible for their actions.
eg: The girl who beat her up is then has no responsibility under your simple theory. :doh
 
If I were a betting man, I'd wager a lot on the following: those who defend bullying, or who minimize its effect on the weak, are or were bullies themselves. Those who bully, or who take pleasure in inflicting emotional and/or physical harm on their victims are defective human beings.
 
The flaw is that unlike newspapers, print media, television and radio, websites are exempt liable and slander laws plus are protected in shielding those who post libel and slander. If that bizarre unique protection was removed, the Internet would be 100 times safer.
 
If I were a betting man, I'd wager a lot on the following: those who defend bullying, or who minimize its effect on the weak, are or were bullies themselves. Those who bully, or who take pleasure in inflicting emotional and/or physical harm on their victims are defective human beings.
I would say you are wrong.
Secondly; Bullying/teasing is part of human nature.
The defective ones, are the ones who take their own life over it.
 
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