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Ryan-endorsed Wisconsin Republican: ‘Some girls rape so easy’

tessaesque said:
Why should it just be republicans commenting? Is there some sort of asinine rule limiting criticism to the party from which the action originated?
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No but I think he was trying more or less to give republicans thier voice an not let the partisan liberals just crap all over it...
 
Zyphlin said:
Yep, Anagram hit that one out of the park by post 3 in that thread.

I don't know whether to be glad or sad that such a tactic is at least a common tool in the hyperpartisan toolbox of both sides rather than just one.
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I find it sad that people think they are making a point or scvoring political points with stuff like that or this.

As a democrat, threads like this make me cringe. If this is what we have to resort to, we have already lost in ways much more important than the election.
 
Zyphlin said:
Yes, a random persons ranting OP ED peice stating her opinoin of things is CLEARLY proof that you're not lying, exaggerating, or making stuff up.
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Where you getting this assessment of the source?
 
Sherman123 said:
Not at all actually. What does any of this (whatever it is) have to do with my comment?
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Post number 13. Your comment to my statement
Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
Well, we all know republicans think women are a big joke and want the right to tell all women in the US when to have a baby, how many babies to have and by whom.

How's that war on women working out for you ladies?
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[You]
What? I don't understand what you are saying.
 
Redress said:
Withdrawn when he found out about the comment. Ryan's part of the whole thing is a non-issue. There are real, good things to attack Ryan on(his extreme positions, his economy destroying budget plans are two off the top of my head). This is not one of them.
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So, instead of looking at the depraved comment in a line of a lot of rape depraved comments, you are looking at Ryan's withdrawal of endorsement?

Look, Ryan has a history of debased ideas on rape for women

Akin And Ryan Have Teamed Up To Co-Sponsor Congress' Most Radical Anti-Choice Legislation | ThinkProgress

Vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan agrees with Akin that rape is not a valid reason to seek an abortion, a position he has publicly held as far back as 1998. Ryan actually has a slightly more extreme record on anti-abortion legislation than Akin does, earning an 100 percent pro-life rating from the National Right to Life Committee for his anti-choice votes in Congress while Akin earned a 90 percent rating during the same time period. Every single piece of anti-abortion legislation that Ryan has supported has been a bill co-sponsored by Akin. And the two have co-sponsored a considerable number of radical anti-choice measures together:
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Don't tell me he didn't know this guy's attitude. He sure knew Akin's.
 
Muddy Creek said:
Post number 13. Your comment to my statement


[You]
What? I don't understand what you are saying.
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Yes, explain your original comment in connection with my post. I can't imagine you need a link to do that.
 
Muddy Creek said:
Ryan-endorsed Wisconsin Republican: ‘Some girls rape so easy’ | The Raw Story



Any republican care to comment?
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1. Why do you want Republicans to comment? You think a large portion of them agree with the guy?

2. Why is it important that Ryan endorsed the guy? I know that both sides would do this if it happened to the other side, but just because you endorse someone before something happens doesn't mean that you are responsible if that guys says or does something stupid. It just doesn't work that way.

Criticize the guy for saying whatever he said. Trying to stretch it out to blame all republicans or to blame Ryan for it is silly.
 
Sherman123 said:
Yes, explain your original comment in connection with my post. I can't imagine you need a link to do that.
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Post #19. And I verified the war on women with an article on the legislation that is removing a woman's right to her reproductive organs and the right to choose how many children to bear, when to bear them, and by whom
 
roughdraft274 said:
1. Why do you want Republicans to comment? You think a large portion of them agree with the guy?

2. Why is it important that Ryan endorsed the guy? I know that both sides would do this if it happened to the other side, but just because you endorse someone before something happens doesn't mean that you are responsible if that guys says or does something stupid. It just doesn't work that way.

Criticize the guy for saying whatever he said. Trying to stretch it out to blame all republicans or to blame Ryan for it is silly.
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The man is a republican. Like Akin, and other republicans, he has some bizarre ideas on women and rape.

2). Because of Ryan's working with Akin on the most harshest anti-choice legislation in the nation.

Ryan and republican and their pundits are continually making these remarks against women. Ask a republican what type of woman wants to get an abortion, for example.
 
Muddy Creek said:
Post #19. And I verified the war on women with an article on the legislation that is removing a woman's right to her reproductive organs and the right to choose how many children to bear, when to bear them, and by whom
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That had literally nothing to do with what I was talking about.
 
Sherman123 said:
That had literally nothing to do with what I was talking about.
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YOU confirmed post 13.

Spell it out then, what specifically should i address without a link?
 
Muddy Creek said:
Where you getting this assessment of the source?
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Pretty simple. Your story from Diane Roberts was from the Guardians "Life and Style" page, not their News page. The very first paragraph of the story is clear cut, unquestionable, COMMENTARY and opinion...not news reporting:

Republicans and their Tea Party shock troops say they want to "take America back". Progressives think they mean back to the 1950s, back to when men were men, women were ladies, and black folks only got into the White House by the back door. But Republicans are thinking big: they actually want to take us back to the Middle Ages, back to the "good old days" of sexual repression, regulation and punishment.
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This is the writer stating her OPINION regarding what you believes the Republicans to desire based on her opinion of what they're doing. You can see it in the next paragraph as well:

Forget the economy: this election is becoming a referendum on women's bodies, since it's women (according to the Republicans' Book of Holy Misogyny) who like to have sex without wanting to get pregnant, and, if they do get pregnant, might want to have an abortion;
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Here's a hint, unless you can find me an official "Republican Book of Holy Misogyny" that is the writer inserting their own COMMENTARY into the piece.

That is not reporting, that's not news, it's commentary. Nothing's wrong with commentary...but some random chick on the Guardian's website does not in any way prove or provide any sort of evidence of a legitimate "war on women" by "republicans" nor does it negate Goshin's suggestion that your assertions earlier were filled with misrepresentation, gross exaggerations, and/or outright lies.
 
Muddy Creek said:
Withdrawing AFTER the comment was made.
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That's typically the drill. Sometimes people wait even longer before withdrawing their support, while others stick with the person all the way though.

Are you new to politics? Perhaps this is your first election?
 
Zyphlin said:
While I generally don't have an issue with the generalized sentiment and warning of his father, the method of stating it and the seeming mentality that his father built upon the general foundation was incredibly ignorant and short sited and the politician was ridiculous to reuse such words in almost any situation I could possibly imagine. I would wager that it will likely have a negative impact on his candidacy for a state house position.
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the other guy will just blow it off. The problem is we Wisconsinites have a very
long memory.
 
Fiddytree said:
That's typically the drill. Sometimes people wait even longer before withdrawing their support, while others stick with the person all the way though.

Are you new to politics? Perhaps this is your first election?
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That last is a fine serious question. What about it MC, IS this your first election as a voter/adult? That would explain so much of what you've posted thus far.
 
People should be angry at the person who said that and no one else. Don't blame the political parties, that gets us nowhere...
 
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