So, declare Afghanistan is once again a safe-haven for terrorists. That is one approach. How did it work the last time?
We've never once declared it a safe haven for terrorists. We put our dirty fingers into training the taliban to fight the russians, then left right after.
Apparently you didn't listen to a word I said earlier. You simply can't put soldiers on every mountaintop and every street corner in the world. Team America World Police is a dangerous and bloody ideology to hold.
Could it be Islam is the reason? How do we fight that fundamental cause of terrorism?
Yes, it probably has nothing to do with dozens of american military bases scattered across the middle east, the supporting of oil cartels, invading numerous nations, and bombing of thousands of citizens.
I'm sure they're all just fired up from reading their holy book. If we were to sit at home and mind our business, they'd be just blowin' us up left and right, eh?
Tell me how many terrorist attacks Switzerland has had.
Or more likely it is to deny Afghanistan as a safe haven for Al Quada and the Taliban. Would it help if the Obama Administration actually let the military fight?
The rules of engagement have nothing to do with it. We were losing this from the beginning. I was in afghanistan back when it was still the wild west. When you could level a village with JDAMs because of one enemy combatant in it. You act like when Obama came into office was the turning point where an otherwise successful campaign started going down the drain.
If the great warlord Emperor Bush couldn't do it, no amount of ROE changes will help it.
If you are correct that the political objective for the war in Afghanistan is to bring the people freedom then you are right. If the objective is to deny safe haven then you are not right. Americans have always loved being on the winning side. By denying the possibility of winning in Afghanistan of course our will has flagged. So bring all the forces home. Do it today. There is no need to wait.
Yes, americans are only sick of war because they don't believe we can win, not because it's been going on for ELEVEN years.
If you're honestly suggesting bringing home the troops today, I agree 100%. What a refreshing idea.
Except that the Obama Administration rules of engagement means we are not fighting.
You have learned the wrong lesson from the history you have been exposed to. A better lesson is to identify the right political objective, fit the strategy to the objective, match the means to the strategy and then persist.
It is clear that we are unclear on the political objective. It is clear that we are unclear on the strategy. It is clear that we are unclear on the means. And the one term Marxist has already told our enemies that we are going to withdraw on a provided date.
What I've learned from history is two-fold:
- Afghanistan is an unconquerable nation. Ask Alexander, ask the Soviets, ask Genghis Khan, and take a look at our current situation.
- For any campaign, ensure that the juice is worth the squeeze. In this situation by juice I mean American blood, and by squeeze I mean not a god damn thing.
WWII was many things in many places. It was not so simple nor straightforward as you think. I chose it because of its enormous complexity, as well as the belief among many that it was unwinnable.
No s***. I never claimed it was simple or straight forward. What I stated is that it is an entirely different type of warfare and is in this situation completely unrelated.