If we are not prepared to stay there as long as it takes to deny the Taliban and Al qaeda a safe haven then we shall lose and they shall win.
Enlighten me please.
We should go where are enemy is. We should kill him and break his things until he stops waging war against us. Did you think this was going to be easy?
It seems you know as little about business as you do about war.
One has to wonder where all the defeatists come from. Is your life so dear that you would purchase it with Sharia chains?
"If we are not prepared to stay there as long as it takes to deny the Taliban and Al qaeda a safe haven then we shall lose and they shall win."
You werent prepared to do that in Iraq, you wont do it in Afghanistan.
By the way the Insurgent killings still go on in that country, you got to a point where you couldnt change the country from what it was and decided to leave rather than waste more blood in the cycle of violence.
The same will happen in Afghanistan. In Iraq this September, The month saw 182 civilians, 88 police and 95 soldiers killed in attacks across Iraq, official figures show.
BBC News - Iraq attacks: September 'deadliest month for two years'
"We should go where are enemy is. We should kill him and break his things until he stops waging war against us. Did you think this was going to be easy?"
Your simply not doing that, Pakistan is the perfect example and to be honest I don't think you could fight on all the different fronts anyway. Not that alot of bother has gone into actually understanding the countries where AQ has managed to set up.
On Guerilla war:
How could a bunch of Yankee colonial settlers take on the might of the British Army?
How could an impoverished people in the Desert take on the British, Russian, and US Army?
How could a bunch of impoverished Irish civillians take on the British Army?
How could a guy like Fidel Castro or Che Guevara come to power?
How could Mao Zedong come to power?
This type of warfare has been used effectivley countless times throughout history, and throughout Afghanistans history.
Guerrilla warfare is a form of irregular warfare in which a small group of combatants including, but not limited to, armed civilians (or "irregulars") use military tactics, such as ambushes, sabotage, raids, petty warfare, the element of surprise, and extraordinary mobility to harass a larger and less-mobile traditional army, or strike a vulnerable target, and withdraw almost immediately.
A better term to have been used for this conflict would have been - Asymmetric warfare which is war between belligerents whose relative military power differs significantly, or whose strategy or tactics differ significantly.
Terrain can be used as a force multiplier by the smaller force and as a force inhibitor against the larger force. Such terrain is called difficult terrain.
The locals have the advantage against the foreign military. The other multipliers are population, local knowledge, ability to take casulties, influence on outside media. The hearts and minds of the local population are the key factor in winning such a war.
Look at the populations reaction to AQ in Benghazi after the killing of the US Ambassador:
BBC News - Libya: Islamist militia bases stormed in Benghazi
This is also a new type of enemy which requires a flexible approach:
"Unless transnational violent Islamism is first nationalized and then
transformed in both ideological and organizational terms through its
co-optation into the mainstream political process, it is highly unlikely
to become amenable to persuasion. It is, indeed, unlikely to be susceptible
to any external influence. It is even less likely to be crushed by
repression, which it actually thrives on. In this sense, the most radical
and the most perilous supranational al-Qaeda-inspired breed of violent
Islamism...its converts do not defend a territory,
nation or state. They fight for an all-embracing mode of existence,
a way of life, a holistic and global system through the establishment
of the ‘direct rule of God on earth’ as they genuinely
believe."
E Stepanova:
http://books.sipri.org/files/RR/SIPRIRR23.pdf
"It seems you know as little about business as you do about war."
Yeah thanks Mistervertis Hawk, and what do you know?
"One has to wonder where all the defeatists come from. Is your life so dear that you would purchase it with Sharia chains?"
This isnt WW2 so quit the melodrama