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Ohioans confused about bin Laden’s death

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I just have to ask... how is it possible that these people got it so wrong? It's mind-boggling. What has Mitt done to even deserve an iota of credit?




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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney campaigns at the Military Aviation Museum in Virginia Beach, Va., Saturday, Sept. 8, 2012.
(AP Photo/Charles Dharapak) (Credit: AP)


Some Republicans think Romney is "more responsible" for the death of Osama bin Laden

What does Mitt Romney have to do with killing Osama bin Laden? According to a notable percentage of Ohio Republicans, way more than that good-for-nothing Barack Obama.
According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is “more responsible” for bin Laden’s death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are “not sure” whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.
Six percent of the overall respondents gave Romney credit where credit is not at all due. Thirty-one percent of them weren’t sure whether the president or the candidate deserves more credit.

Jillian Rayfield is an Assistant News Editor for Salon, focusing on politics. Follow her on Twitter at @jillrayfield or email her at jrayfield@salon.com.

Ohioans confused about bin Laden’s death
 
This honestly isn't surprising, as sad as that is.
 
Obviously Romney secretly moonlights as a DEVGRU Navy SEAL - and now the secret is out :)
 
I'm trying to think of an example of what someone could think the poll was asking (making the result a misunderstanding of the question), but I haven't been able to think of one.
 
Don't people know? Mitt went on a missionary to Afghanistan and helped beat to death Bin Laden!
 
Middleground said:
I just have to ask... how is it possible that these people got it so wrong? It's mind-boggling. What has Mitt done to even deserve an iota of credit?
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Not much, if anything at all.

I suppose that would be my answer if you asked me what Pres. Obama has done too.

I think there is clearly a lot of partisan foolishness on all sides of the aisle but I don't get too worked up on something that was designed by a liberal group to make Republicans look bad. I even wonder how selective PPP was in looking for people. This story is kind of the equivalent of Peter Schiff's video at the Democrat Convention.
 
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75% of them probably want to end women's suffrage.
 
I'll try.

If I asked you if Obama deserved the credit, you might respond unsure BECAUSE you think the alternative answer might be the Navy SEALS who actually took guns and attacked the compound. So, "unsure" is, well, kind of an "unsure" question especially if you're trying to rig the responses.

Now, asking of Mitt Romney deserves any credit for the Bin Laden execution, yes, only a moron would say yes to that. So, all we learn is that 15% of these interviewees were morons. I recently saw the reverse of this where dumb democrats were responding that Corporations shouldn't be allowed to make a profit. That's equally ridiculous.

So, this is just a silly game where you try and trick the dumbest, least informed people into showing their ignorance. Other than the humor value, I doubt there is anything to learn from this, OTHER than some people are DUMB. Hell, I could have told you that if you had only asked.

Hope this (free) analysis helps.


Republic Now! said:
I'm trying to think of an example of what someone could think the poll was asking (making the result a misunderstanding of the question), but I haven't been able to think of one.
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The question apparently was

Who do you think deserves more credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden: Barack Obama or Mitt Romney?
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I guess you could have not listened to the whole question and decided that Romney deserves more credit for everything. I suspect it's more like 6% of Ohioans are both rabidly partisan and stupid. It's not all that many to be honest.
 
It just proves how many people in Ohio and elsewhere care nothing about politics or what is happening in their country.
 
Seeing as 11% of non-conservatives (Very Liberal, Liberal, and Moderate) said the same thing, I have to think there's a problem with how the question was asked.

Now, MY question is -- WHY was the question even asked at all?
 
Harshaw said:
Seeing as 11% of non-conservatives (Very Liberal, Liberal, and Moderate) said the same thing, I have to think there's a problem with how the question was asked.

Now, MY question is -- WHY was the question even asked at all?
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I'm going with the theory that it was there to set a baseline for complete blithering idiots.
 
The fact that they have Mitt Romney as a person who had ties to killing OSBL influences a person on their knowledge or incorrect knowledge of the issue. In other words simply having Romney on the choices implants the idea that he had something to do with it..and for the uninformed that is a cue to answer with Romney
 
IMHO some people simply dislike polls and pollsters. Others dislike Obama so much they refuse to give him credit for anything. I think this could fall in the same category as Holocaust deniers. They don't actually believe what they're saying they believe. Their contempt prevents them from giving their perceived enemy any advocacy and are willing to revise history to that end and/or they think it'll get under that perceived enemy's skin, in this case President Obama and his supporters.
 
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Probably half the voters regardless of who they are voting for couldn't point to Afghanistan on a world map or name both their United States Senators.

The OP article is just one of a million pointless partisan smear blog pieces and this is "breaking news" then ANY so-calling Internet "news source blog" is "breaking new."
 
joko104 said:
Probably half the voters regardless of who they are voting for couldn't point to Afghanistan on a world map or name both their United States Senators.

The OP article is just one of a million pointless partisan smear blog pieces and this is "breaking news" then ANY so-calling Internet "news source blog" is "breaking new."
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A lot of blog pieces get put in "breaking news." Including righty ones.
 
Republic Now! said:
I'm trying to think of an example of what someone could think the poll was asking (making the result a misunderstanding of the question), but I haven't been able to think of one.
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I got it: Would you like to see Mitt Romney take the credit he deserves for killing Osama Bin Laden?
 
rocket88 said:
I'm going with the theory that it was there to set a baseline for complete blithering idiots.
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The point being...there are maroons on both sides of the aisle. With our current debt and economic situation loom how many people are just foamy about the opportunity to rush to the polls and vote for 'their guy'.

And did I read that correctly? 11% of the democrats asked said Romney deserved the credit as well? Funny...you would think THAT would be a more embarrassing headline.
 
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The point being...there are maroons on both sides of the aisle. With our current debt and economic situation loom how many people are just foamy about the opportunity to rush to the polls and vote for 'their guy'.

And did I read that correctly? 11% of the democrats asked said Romney deserved the credit as well? Funny...you would think THAT would be a more embarrassing headline.
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For sure. But no matter a person's persuasion, thinkng that Romney had anything to do with OBL qualifies thar person as a complete idiot.

I'm not one to give a whole lot of credit to Obama...but more than Romney t be sure.
 
rocket88 said:
For sure. But no matter a person's persuasion, thinkng that Romney had anything to do with OBL qualifies thar person as a complete idiot.

I'm not one to give a whole lot of credit to Obama...but more than Romney t be sure.
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I agree...thats why I was shocked to see 11% of the democrats believed Romney was responsible. Looking at the actual survey only 63% TOTAL believed Obama deserved the credit. Thats a whole lot of stupid.
 
Has the data been corrected for trollitudnessity?
 
Harshaw said:
Now, MY question is -- WHY was the question even asked at all?
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I think the problem with "who ought to get credit?" was why the question was asked.

Regardless, folks like Maddow had a field day. "Omgz. Republicans stoopid!"
 
Fiddytree said:
I think the problem with "who ought to get credit?" was why the question was asked.

Irregardless, folks like Maddow had a field day. "Omgz. Republicans stoopid!"
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And I'm going to bet Maddow didn't mention what I did, above, that almost as many non-conservatives gave the same answer.
 
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And I'm going to bet Maddow didn't mention what I did, above, that almost as many non-conservatives gave the same answer.
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It was a Republican-exclusive fault, apparently. I was just amused Maddow went to it for a talking point, because to me, that is also stupid. But hey, I don't like snarky liberals.
 
It's all a matter of perspective. If Bush got bin Laden in the same manner, he would have been recrucified for violating the sovereignty of Pakistan. He would have been called a warmonger and a cowboy and a loose cannon. He would have been accused of sitting on his hands for years before finally taking the shot, a day late and a dollar short. Every single person in that compound, bin Laden included, would have been labeled as "murder victims". Bin Laden's death in the event would have been called "sloppy planning," or an "execution mission," no doubt to cover up the truth behind 9/11.

Did Romney do a damn thing to help get bin Laden? Nope. But neither did Obama. He was in the right place at the right time; it was his job to say "go," and he did. Do we give people trophies for simply showing up to work now? Hey, I didn't go to jail today. Someone pat me on the back. Obama neither planned the operation, nor pulled the trigger. And in that regard, neither did Romney.
 
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