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Mitt Romney: 'I Never Paid Less Than 13 Percent' In Taxes

disneydude said:
Obama released 10 years. Romney is obviously hiding something that he doesn't want the American people to see.
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He's filthy, stinking rich. what else do you want to know?
 
disneydude said:
Obviously. Romney knows that releasing his tax records will sink his campaign. The American people cannot trust this guy.
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If you are going to vote for the guy who has earned the trust, who does that leave for you?

The guy who kept unemployment below 8%? Closed Gitmo? Unified the country?

You've really closed down your options.
 
code1211 said:
In Federal Tax, that's about the amount that i ended up paying if we're using gross as the base to calculate the percent.

I have considerably less income and considerably fewer accountants and lawyers than Mitt.
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You shouldn't be paying the same rate as Willard then. If our tax code is supposed to be graduated, then it ought to be. On the other hand, I am all for a flat income tax
 
code1211 said:
Would you rather re-elect the Big 0 on his promise that unemployment will never go above 8%?
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Obama never said that nor did he promise it. Christina Romer made that claim and she has since resigned. Looks like you're more interested in lying and voting for liars than you are in taking personal responsibilty for finding out the truth.
 
Moot said:
Obama never said that nor did he promise it. Christina Romer made that claim and she has since resigned. Looks like you're more interested in lying and voting for liars than you are in taking personal responsibilty for finding out the truth.
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Are you saying that the people who work for the Big 0 are in no way attached to or under the authority of the Great Man?

What kind of a leader is ignored by his highest advisors? Is the assertion that his staff ignores him supposed to be an endorsement of his leadership style?
 
TheLastIndependent said:
I wouldn't doubt that Mitt paid more than 13% on his income. Yet I have 2 questions, Why is that less than the tax rate of the middle class and how much of your income did you pay that on?
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Lpast didn't pay 13% Federal Income Tax on his income. He doesn't know how to figure out his effective tax rate. Most people don't.
 
MaggieD said:
Lpast didn't pay 13% Federal Income Tax on his income. He doesn't know how to figure out his effective tax rate. Most people don't.
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That's because taxes are so difficult to figure out. You know what's simple? A flat tax.
 
Carleen said:
I think that the fact that he made his money from investments indicates that he may have paid nothing on income. There is nothing wrong with that. It is how our system works but the problem is a majority of the people would be pretty upset about that.
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The problem is him and Ryan want to give HIM another huge tax cut and raise costs for everyone else on other things...or cut from them
 
Not so much. I pay more than 13.....so should he. Romney has no ****ing business asking for the tax returns of his potential running mates if he won't provide his to us.
 
code1211 said:
Are you saying that the people who work for the Big 0 are in no way attached to or under the authority of the Great Man?

What kind of a leader is ignored by his highest advisors? Is the assertion that his staff ignores him supposed to be an endorsement of his leadership style?
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Are you saying that you have to lie and twist what I said instead of taking personal responsibilty to find out the truth? Because I mean exactly what I said, "Obama never said that nor did he promise it" and thats a fact.
 
Moot said:
Are you saying that you have to lie and twist what I said instead of taking personal responsibilty to find out the truth? Because I mean exactly what I said, "Obama never said that nor did he promise it" and thats a fact.
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What the President said and what all of the president's men say are the same thing. The president is a big boy and he can say that the promise made was not an accurate one or he can leave it out there. Silence indicates consent is a revered legal doctrine and in this case, it applies.
 
disneydude said:
Mitt Romney needs to come clean with the American people if he wants to lead this country. We don't choose the most important leader in the world on your "word" Mr. Romney.
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another guy who is a hard core obama supporter who would never vote for anyone who does not advocate tax increases on the rich.

Your arguments are patently ridiculous
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1060808644 said:
Then how did you choose Obama?
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Obama advocates more taxes on people who are more industrious than DD
 
liblady said:
Not so much. I pay more than 13.....so should he. Romney has no ****ing business asking for the tax returns of his potential running mates if he won't provide his to us.
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you don't pay more on your investment income

you don't pay more on your earned income than Mitt does

You don't pay more property taxes than he does

and your family doesn't pay death taxes


so stop lying

you are trying to argue that all of your taxes-many of which are not "progressive" take more of your income than what Romney's capital gains tax take of his capital gains

why should he pay more when its different kinds of taxes
 
TurtleDude said:
you don't pay more on your investment income

you don't pay more on your earned income than Mitt does

You don't pay more property taxes than he does

and your family doesn't pay death taxes


so stop lying

you are trying to argue that all of your taxes-many of which are not "progressive" take more of your income than what Romney's capital gains tax take of his capital gains

why should he pay more when its different kinds of taxes
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Mitt Romney stated that he paid 13 percent in fed taxes. I paid more than 13 percent. I do not lie. Willard (see what I did there?) Clearly has something he doesn't want the voting public to see.
 
liblady said:
Mitt Romney stated that he paid 13 percent in fed taxes. I paid more than 13 percent. I do not lie. Willard (see what I did there?) Clearly has something he doesn't want the voting public to see.
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97% of America pays a lower effective federal income tax rate than Romney does. To hit 14% or so you have to have earned income ABOVE THE LEVEL that Obama calls "The rich"

So you are rich or you are lying. And YOU DO NOT PAY A HIGHER EFFECTIVE RATE ON LIKE INCOME
 
TurtleDude said:
97% of America pays a lower effective federal income tax rate than Romney does. To hit 14% or so you have to have earned income ABOVE THE LEVEL that Obama calls "The rich"

So you are rich or you are lying. And YOU DO NOT PAY A HIGHER EFFECTIVE RATE ON LIKE INCOME
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I do not lie, and I don't give flying **** what Obama says is rich. And I never said I paid a higher rate on like income. Really, capital gains should be taxed at a HIGHER rate than EARNED income. But see ya, I won't debate with people who call me a liar.
 
TurtleDude said:
97% of America pays a lower effective federal income tax rate than Romney does. To hit 14% or so you have to have earned income ABOVE THE LEVEL that Obama calls "The rich"
So you are rich or you are lying. And YOU DO NOT PAY A HIGHER EFFECTIVE RATE ON LIKE INCOME
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Or she made an error. It happens to us all.
 
liblady said:
I do not lie, and I don't give flying **** what Obama says is rich. And I never said I paid a higher rate on like income. Really, capital gains should be taxed at a HIGHER rate than EARNED income. But see ya, I won't debate with people who call me a liar.
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MOre idiocy. Capital gains should not be taxed at a higher rate unless you want to kill investments in the USA

I guess if one is unable to invest such spite would flow

but your position is based on envy or emotion-not an intelligent understanding of reality

and you do not pay a higher rate on like income

so stop lying
 
ecofarm said:
Or she made an error. It happens to us all.
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That might be true if she and others like her had not been edified dozens of times on the lies that the Dems spin

since she has been, lie is the only proper description
 
Bwaaahhhhhh, the envy card huh? Td, you are special. I guess no one invested back in the good old days of higher capital gains taxes? I suppose people will put their money under a mattress? I guess we will just have to tax income earned in other countries at an astonishing rate. Poor Willard, then. By the way, you're quite good at wording your replies to me, me? Not so good. **** you, I'm sure your wife won't. Unless, of course, you pay her with that amazing income of yours, because your sparkling conversation skills leave a little to be desired.
 
liblady said:
Mitt Romney stated that he paid 13 percent in fed taxes. I paid more than 13 percent. I do not lie. Willard (see what I did there?) Clearly has something he doesn't want the voting public to see.
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Are you basing that percent on net or gross?

If it's net, you are doing something horribly wrong and really need to seek professional help.
 
liblady said:
Bwaaahhhhhh, the envy card huh? Td, you are special. I guess no one invested back in the good old days of higher capital gains taxes? I suppose people will put their money under a mattress? I guess we will just have to tax income earned in other countries at an astonishing rate. Poor Willard, then. By the way, you're quite good at wording your replies to me, me? Not so good. **** you, I'm sure your wife won't. Unless, of course, you pay her with that amazing income of yours, because your sparkling conversation skills leave a little to be desired.
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Back in the good ol' days, there were plenty of tax shelters and it resulted in one opponent of ted Kennedy saying that he didn't deserve to help manage tax dollars because his business interests hadn't shown a profit in years.

"The Rich" then and the rich now are all more than capable of hiding enough income to not pay tax and in fact live pretty well with the provable statement that they are in truth losing money.

The higher rates in the past were balanced by the countless tax shelters provided by law. When Reagan and Tip reached their tax deal, there were no tax shelters. They were all eliminated Since that date, the additions to the tax code allowing devices for tax evasion have been added at the rate of more than one every day of the week including weekends, day in and day out for about 25 years.

Pretty impressive.

Our law makers are the most devious, bribed and corrupt, corrupting and corruptible snakes on the planet. There is no getting around that. We are at their mercy and need to eliminate all who do not promise to reduce spending by 10% or more.
 
liblady said:
Not so much. I pay more than 13.....so should he. Romney has no ****ing business asking for the tax returns of his potential running mates if he won't provide his to us.
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He asked for two years -- the same he is willing to release.

As to your paying more than 13% Federal income tax? I doubt it. I paid a 4.5% effective rate on over $100K.
 
ecofarm said:
If Romney releases the records, I will be pissed. We've got a full-blown birther spin-off in the making. If he does reveal, he should bust out the 'long form' after the CTers get into full-swing, perhaps just before the election.
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He has until October to release the rest of his 2011 return. By waiting until then I think would be more harmful for him. He should have released his taxes a long time ago and it probably would have blown over by now. He make a huge mistake imo.
 
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