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Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

And where are you getting your 16% increase stat from?
If you were following posts you'd know.

Go back and read, or don't I gives a **** less.
 
This is most certainly true, Billy, but it isn't the whole story. If the working poor have health insurance, they will have more disposable income and no doubt, they will buy more pizza. It's possible that if sales and labor costs both rise, most Papa John's franchises could see a net profit.

This is why I support universal coverage, in large part. However, I have accumulated so many objections to Obamacare that I believe this law actually sets the reform movement back, rather than furthering it.

Correct me if I am wrong, but...

Under Obamacare, employers are only required to pay a majority of the health insurance premiums, and still require the employee to pay towards their insurance coverage.

Which means....

Less Net Pay for the Pizza Delivery Guy who already makes $7.25 an hour plus tips (or less due to getting tips).
 
Both my kids worked as waiter/waitress at restaurants while attending college, so I always tip generously if they provide even satisfactory service, because I know how much they depend on and appreciate their tip money.
Wooooo Wooo! More Beer Money!
 
Except that all his competitors will have to provide employee health insurance too. Either they'll have to increases their prices in line with his, or he'll have to study what they do to provide the insurance without raising prices, and do the same. Simple.

Maybe he'll reduce his workforce or something.
 
Oh Jesus Christ, talk about "not getting it."

I never said that this 20 cents a pizza price increase will bankrupt the ****ing company. I'm saying that it will decrease demand, meaning if it's 20 cents a pizza now, if there is a 10 percent decrease in demand, that's actually much higher than 20 cents a pizza, more like 25 cents. I mean he threw a number out there, but this stuff is always inaccurate to say the least, and never in a good way.

The people who are working for a pizza company are usually high school kids who don't need health insurance as they are already covered under their parents plan.

This feel good crap has to stop. Everything in this country is going up in price and it's always ok if it's going to help some zit faced teenager throwing pizzas in a bag to have health insurance they don't need. Yea, wonderful.

Oh geez, remind me to never use your models for any marketing campaigns.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but...

Under Obamacare, employers are only required to pay a majority of the health insurance premiums, and still require the employee to pay towards their insurance coverage.

Which means....

Less Net Pay for the Pizza Delivery Guy who already makes $7.25 an hour plus tips (or less due to getting tips).

I think it's wishful thinking to think that Pizza Delivery Guy (who is a part-time worker) is going to get healthcare insurance through his employer.
 
I think it's wishful thinking to think that Pizza Delivery Guy (who is a part-time worker) is going to get healthcare insurance through his employer.

That pizza delivery guy is going to get Medicaid and will be required to spend, at most, 2% of his pay toward the premium cost.
 
I'm pretty skeptical that health insurance is such a large portion of Papa John's overhead.
 
I'm pretty skeptical that health insurance is such a large portion of Papa John's overhead.

Inventory is the biggest part.
 
I'm pretty skeptical that health insurance is such a large portion of Papa John's overhead.
I'm skeptical that each franchise has more than 50 employees.
 
I'm skeptical that each franchise has more than 50 employees.

They don't. Unless they are going to bundle multiple stores together. If they do that, then it is very likely they have more than that.
 
I rather pay less for a pizza and have the uninsured show up at our ER's for a infected tooth so we can all pay out the arse for it.
You forgot to mention the cost of your required health insurance premiums increases you MUST pay - meaning your message is foolish because you WILL be paying for indigent care through your increased premiums AND through your property taxes (directly or via rent).

You seem to believe ObamaCare provides indigent care for free at no cost to the government, taxpayers or anyone. ObamaCare is EXTEMELY expensive
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but...

Under Obamacare, employers are only required to pay a majority of the health insurance premiums, and still require the employee to pay towards their insurance coverage.

Which means....

Less Net Pay for the Pizza Delivery Guy who already makes $7.25 an hour plus tips (or less due to getting tips).


ObamaCare shifts indigent care from the wealthy via property taxes to ordinary people like the pizza delivery guy.

Is there ANY plan of Obama related to economics that 1.) doesn't devalue the dollar (inflation thus making us all poorer and working for less) and 2.) reduce relative wages?
 
I rather pay less for a pizza and have the uninsured show up at our ER's for a infected tooth so we can all pay out the arse for it.

according to research from the Kaiser Foundation the uninsured represent a small percentage of er costs (something like 10-25%)
 
I'm pretty skeptical that health insurance is such a large portion of Papa John's overhead.

Its not...hes a big romney supporter....its a fabricrated issue...Papa Johns Has alot of pizzerias but none of them have alot of employees...the one near me has 3 employees on at a time...and its not a 24 hr operation. Aside from that 11 cts on a pizza is chump change for a pizza maker...believe they eat bigger chunks than that in a tri monthly wholesale increase
As a many year small business owner...I truly believe, happy healthy employees, translates into more success for your business and MORE PROFIT FOR YOU....I paid my shop managers and assts 3.00 an hour min more than my competititor and I got it back at least double from them in loyalty and respect honesty and dedication...and I stand by that statment completely.
 
I think it's wishful thinking to think that Pizza Delivery Guy (who is a part-time worker) is going to get healthcare insurance through his employer.

Exactly.

Its medical insurance and less take home pay.
Or No Medical insurance and the same take home pay.....

To the already dirt poor guy or gal delivering your pizza..... which do you think they are picking? (if they so had a choice)
 
Exactly.

Its medical insurance and less take home pay.
Or No Medical insurance and the same take home pay.....

To the already dirt poor guy or gal delivering your pizza..... which do you think they are picking? (if they so had a choice)


You have to be a 30 hr a week employee to be entitled to the healthcare in the first place...the lionshare of pizza shop employees are not 30 yr employees....no one is knocking down pizza shop doors to make it their full time lifes employment...they are run mostly by part timers and a couple of full time managers...and direct owner participation....
 
You have to be a 30 hr a week employee to be entitled to the healthcare in the first place...the lionshare of pizza shop employees are not 30 yr employees....no one is knocking down pizza shop doors to make it their full time lifes employment...they are run mostly by part timers and a couple of full time managers...and direct owner participation....

Exactly and very, very few have more than 50 employees so this is really a non-issue for the pizza business...this is a coordinated attack from a Romney supporter...end of story...
 
If your multibillion dollar business can't survive a 20 cent increase in product prices, your problem isn't ObamaCare.
 
You have to be a 30 hr a week employee to be entitled to the healthcare in the first place...the lionshare of pizza shop employees are not 30 yr employees....no one is knocking down pizza shop doors to make it their full time lifes employment...they are run mostly by part timers and a couple of full time managers...and direct owner participation....

Actually, I just read the other day that Obamacare addresses part-time employees. If it is found that a company is hiring part-time workers to fill what are basically full-time positions, the 30-hour rule doesn't apply. For instance, though I'm not sure, if WalMart regularly hires part-time clerks to fill positions that are really full-time? Obamacare applies to all of them.

I do think you're ready about pizza places, though. Most of them are probably part-time second jobs for most people. Or students. *Shrug*
 
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