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Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says

RadicalModerate said:
Obamacare will help drive down health care costs

By the way, this is a long term plan, not some ****ty little stop-gap measure. If you expected immediate reduced costs, you're going to be disappointed.
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LOL. An OPINION piece that shares your WISH is not "evidence" it is simply sharing your HOPE for some later CHANGE. This is a key quote from YOUR supplied "proof":

Some of these reforms targeting the health care delivery system are novel, and experts are rightly cautious in their predictions about what they can accomplish and whether they will "bend the curve" of health care spending until it is sustainable.
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RadicalModerate said:
...and a Professor of Economics.

Man, I should have called the well-poisoning when I posted.

Oh well.

Anyone could have seen that coming, I guess.
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Says the guy who just bailed from a point he was losing pretty badly.
 
RadicalModerate said:
LOL!

Says the guy who can't see that prices changes don't happen in a vacuum.
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I addressed your point on "benefits," dude, which was the only relevant thing you said. To wit: the benefits you cite happen on the backs of the poor and trickle up to everyone else. You have not even tried to respond to that, so at this point, one must assume that this is an arrangement you find perfectly OK.

Everything else about "fuel" and "decreased demand" is simply dancing around an inconvenient truth.
 
i wonder when the last time the price was raised and what was the excuse then?
 
WhyteRash said:
i wonder when the last time the price was raised and what was the excuse then?
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The fact that we can't recall the last time they raised their prices may point to the relative significance of pizza price increases in our minds--it wasn't worth noting.
 
lpast said:
What do I know about the pizza business..ROFLAMO...Ive owned 7 pizzerias over a span of many years and owned 3 at one time...I was in the pizza business while my wife was a many time over salon owner over 3 or more decades...she still owns a couple of salons...
20 cts on a pizza means SQUAT...your increase on a pizza is more than that every spring when they shoot your delivery costs through the roof raping us on the price of gasoline....I paid my employees more than any other competitor and I had THE LEAST PROBLEMS OF THEM ALL and I made far more money than all of them...I offered a group plan admittedly not the best but something to all my full time employees me and my partner...I would gladly eat 20 cts on a 18.00 pizza to have employees with health care and less worries and be more healthy....and anyone that doesnt think like that in my opinion is a greedy self centered jackass....give a little GAIN ALOT...
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sarcasm alert...
that's socialism propaganda....:roll:
 
Anthony Brown said:
If one company hike prices, then rest of the companies will hike. People in the United States are on the edge of drought. Companies should think about people before going to hike prices.
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your first statement is not necessarily true....
and the rest of it is a stretch.
This isn't a poverty issue, not in the USA.
 
WhyteRash said:
i wonder when the last time the price was raised and what was the excuse then?
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they don't announce price increases, or size decreases.
most 1/2 gallon size ice cream containers have been downsized with price staying the same...dirty little trick they use.
 
Somerville said:
Why are they both called "pizza", they are so different one should have a different name - but that would start a huge war over which one keeps the title "pizza". I like 'em both.
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For the same reason that Papa Johns gets to call its poisonous slop "pizza". There are no legally binding standards.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
The fact that we can't recall the last time they raised their prices may point to the relative significance of pizza price increases in our minds--it wasn't worth noting.
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Now it'll be just slightly more expensive low-quality slop that nobody in their right mind would eat.
 
Chains like papa johns regular prices are overcharge...then they run constant online specials are the price the pizza should be..so anyone that buys are regular price in the store is a bonus for them...neighborhood pizza shops dont do constant specials...they do occaisionally have a special but if your pizza place rocks and your product rocks and you have your product priced right for the area and competition you dont need gimmicks...

Trust me theres alot of profit in pizza...pizzerias lose because the owners are DUMB and buy cheaper ingredients that cost them their business in the end...anyone in the restaurant business knows you have to bite the bullet you cannot raise your prices everytime you have a wholesale increase...you have to eat some increases then when you must raise your price you raise it slightly above to give you a cushion for the next couple of nudge ups...you cannot raise your prices too often....20 cts on a pizza is so miniscule its laughable....and take it from a guy who was in small business for decades...happy employees make you lots more money...You treat your employees like crap...and they get even...they rob you..they screw you...they do sloppy lousy work...they dont show up...they quit on the spot leaving you hanging...and a myriad of other things....other pizza places employees used to hunt me down to hire them...I never needed employees...so while I was on duty I knew I had managers taking care of me...because I took care of them....the conservatives need to learn that lesson...and stop raping the working class
 
lpast said:
Chains like papa johns regular prices are overcharge...then they run constant online specials are the price the pizza should be..so anyone that buys are regular price in the store is a bonus for them...neighborhood pizza shops dont do constant specials...they do occaisionally have a special but if your pizza place rocks and your product rocks and you have your product priced right for the area and competition you dont need gimmicks...

Trust me theres alot of profit in pizza...pizzerias lose because the owners are DUMB and buy cheaper ingredients that cost them their business in the end...anyone in the restaurant business knows you have to bite the bullet you cannot raise your prices everytime you have a wholesale increase...you have to eat some increases then when you must raise your price you raise it slightly above to give you a cushion for the next couple of nudge ups...you cannot raise your prices too often....20 cts on a pizza is so miniscule its laughable....and take it from a guy who was in small business for decades...happy employees make you lots more money...You treat your employees like crap...and they get even...they rob you..they screw you...they do sloppy lousy work...they dont show up...they quit on the spot leaving you hanging...and a myriad of other things....other pizza places employees used to hunt me down to hire them...I never needed employees...so while I was on duty I knew I had managers taking care of me...because I took care of them....the conservatives need to learn that lesson...and stop raping the working class
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When I first started my business, my brother-in-law gave me an excellent piece of advice:

Always pay your employees a bit more than they think they're worth.
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I followed that advice -- very little turnover.
 
MaggieD said:
When I first started my business, my brother-in-law gave me an excellent piece of advice:



I followed that advice -- very little turnover.
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The small busiiness guys that whine about employees want to give them peanuts...want to knock them off work for days at a time at the slightest slow down to take from them...they are the ones that wind up with the worthless employees...like my landscaper who is getting fired this week...he can never keep help and he keeps having to put my lawn maintenance on hold...hes history
 
lpast said:
The small busiiness guys that whine about employees want to give them peanuts...want to knock them off work for days at a time at the slightest slow down to take from them...they are the ones that wind up with the worthless employees...like my landscaper who is getting fired this week...he can never keep help and he keeps having to put my lawn maintenance on hold...hes history
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and you will likely go pick the cheapest option available to replace him with.
 
ARealConservative said:
and you will likely go pick the cheapest option available to replace him with.
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One thing you cant do...because you are clueless...is speak about anything that I will do...:)
 
TheNextEra said:
If he buys Papa Johns, it will cost him an extra 20 cents per pizza. Again, big deal in comparison to rising costs in gas. I don't see you getting all butt hurt over the rise in oil prices though, why pizza?
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Because the gov't has no control over the price of oil, but they do control the price of pizza (and every other good and service) by mandating health care. If that doesn't piss you off, go live in Europe.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Because the gov't has no control over the price of oil, but they do control the price of pizza (and every other good and service) by mandating health care. If that doesn't piss you off, go live in Europe.
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Lol, the government doesn't control the price of pizza.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Because the gov't has no control over the price of oil, but they do control the price of pizza (and every other good and service) by mandating health care. If that doesn't piss you off, go live in Europe.
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yeah your right every month the govt came in and told me what to charge for my pizza...Lololol....dude where the hell did you get that from...
 
Every single thing you purchase will cost more not just pizza. How many things do you buy every day? How many separate items in your grocery cart? So if you spend 5 or 10 bucks a day extra to pay for obama care whats that add up to a year? This is a new tax that will help keep the economy in the crapper.
 
lpast said:
Papa John's CEO John Schnatter says that Obamacare will result in a $0.11 to $0.14 price increase per pizza, or $0.15 to $0.20 cents per order, Pizza Marketplace, a trade publication, reports. (Hat tip: @dkberman via Twitter.)
Under Obamacare, the company, which is the third-largest pizza takeout and delivery chain in the United States, will have to offer health care coverage to more of its 16,500 total employees or pay a penalty to the government.


OMG...a 15 to 20 cent increase on a 14.00 pizza to give 16,500 employees a chance at having health care...

Anyone that doesnt believe thats a value is NUTS...because if they dont have insurance we will pay far more for their trip to the emergency room...


Papa John's Pizza To Raise Prices Because Of Obamacare, CEO John Schnatter Says
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The story does not say that the chain will offer health care. It says that it will either do this or pay the fine. The fine is less so that will probably be the choice.

We will pay more for a pizza ZND the uninsured will still use the E-Room.
 
I think it's hysterical when some company makes a statement that absurd. You mean their price is oh so low now that they would never have raised it to add profit? Only because they'll be providing health care? Just plain silly.

I've been self-employed for 44 years and I never raised my prices because of taxes or anything like that. I raised them to make more money and I saw that the market would bear it.

With pizza going up 15¢ I'm sure we'll all quit eating it.

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notquiteright said:
So a man who has made several fortunes off the backs of his hard working employees without much concern over if they get sick or a child needs medical attention. But he did his good buddy commercials telling us how much he loves the buyer of his pizzas all the while treating his workforce like part time expendable labor.

You have got to love folks who are making good money in the industry whine about having to treat their workers like real people!

14 cents per pizza isn't going to drive down demand for pizza. Or for burgers, shakes and fries.

Pretty punk-ass for so smiling a guy.
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I order a bunch of pizza. I delivered pizzas when much younger and always overtip. My daughter manages a restaurant so there's that, too.

The folks who work at most pizza joints that i'm familiar with are pretty young. Students and very young adults. Not the group that opts to get insurance.

For the legal eagles out there: does Obmamcare mandate the minimum 50 to cover all employees or only full timers? This might have the effect that nobody has a full time job anymore.
 
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