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‘Red Scare History Burst Through My Door’

If they're protesting it, it's a genuine grievance.
Hey if that's what you believe then more poser to ya. Occupiers should wear layered clothing, though, because frozen paint balls hurt like a mother ****er.

When their car doesn't start, this is why:
"SPECIAL INGREDIENTS" THE BLOB
Also, do you mind telling me where you heard protesters were being paid from?
A few of our DP threads on this topic, maybe a month or so ago.
 
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Hey if that's what you believe then more poser to ya. Wear layered clothing, though, because frozen paint balls hurt like a mother ****er.


A few of our DP threads on this topic, maybe a month or so ago.

A link would help back up your statement, otherwise it means absolutely nothing.

And what're you going on about, frozen paint balls?
 
A link would help back up your statement....
Sure I can Google it for you:



Sources said NYCC has hired about 100 former ACORN-affiliated staff members from other cities – paying some of them $100 a day - to attend and support Occupy Wall Street. Dozens of New York homeless people recruited from shelters are also being paid to support the protests, at the rate of $10 an hour, the sources said.At least some of those hired are being used as door-to-door canvassers to collect money that’s used to support the protests.Sources said cash donations collected by NYCC on behalf of some unions and various causes are being pooled and spent on Occupy Wall Street. The money is used to buy supplies, pay staff and cover travel expenses for the ex-ACORN members brought to New York for the protests.

Read more: EXCLUSIVE: ACORN Playing Behind Scenes Role in 'Occupy' Movement | Fox News

I'll let you look at the rest of the links on your own.

So, 1. it's ACORN, and 2. folks are getting paid. It's not a genuine grievance. It's ACORN trying to keep spinning their bull****.

And what're you going on about, frozen paint balls?
I take it you're not aware of the sort called PaintBall. Would like me to Google that for you as well?
 
Sure I can Google it for you:





I'll let you look at the rest of the links on your own.

So, 1. it's ACORN, and 2. folks are getting paid. It's not a genuine grievance. It's ACORN trying to keep spinning their bull****.


I take it you're not aware of the sort called PaintBall. Would like me to Google that for you as well?


That's the NYCC and ACORN jumping in on the 'bandwagon'. You said Occupy was being funded, that article only showed NYCC employees being funded.

And they say they're purchasing supplies? Doubtful. Supplies for the protesters at OWS? The only 'supplies' there were tents and canned food. Maybe supplies for the 'mercenary protesters' that ACORN and NYCC were funding, but not for the unpaid majority who were there because they feel wronged.

I take it you're not aware of the sort called PaintBall. Would like me to Google that for you as well?

I'm familiar with paint ball, but why did you feel the need to bring it up?
 
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You said Occupy was being funded
I said:
.....hell the protesters were even being paid at points.
I gave examples of protesters being paid. That backs up the claim.

It's one reason why the whole Organize-X is illegitimate. Another reason, a bigger reason IMO, is that ACORN is behind a majority of it, as previously sourced.

It's not a legitimate grievance of the people. It's a special interest group turning up the heat after being caught in illegal activities and shut down.
 
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Sure I can Google it for you:

[video=youtube;_nOYvgQTrmw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nOYvgQTrmw[/]


"...Sources said NYCC has hired about 100 former ACORN-affiliated staff members from other cities – paying some of them $100 a day - to attend and support Occupy Wall Street. Dozens of New York homeless people recruited from shelters are also being paid to support the protests, at the rate of $10 an hour, the sources said.At least some of those hired are being used as door-to-door canvassers to collect money that’s used to support the protests.Sources said cash donations collected by NYCC on behalf of some unions and various causes are being pooled and spent on Occupy Wall Street. The money is used to buy supplies, pay staff and cover travel expenses for the ex-ACORN members brought to New York for the protests...."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/2...scenes-role-in-occupy-movement/#ixzz217G1rH9t



I'll let you look at the rest of the links on your own.

So, 1. it's ACORN, and 2. folks are getting paid. It's not a genuine grievance. It's ACORN trying to keep spinning their bull****.


I take it you're not aware of the sort called PaintBall. Would like me to Google that for you as well?

Sources said this and sources said that. Who are the "sources" the FoxNews article keeps mentioning, Jerry?
 
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Sources said this and sources said that. Who are the "sources" the FoxNews article keeps mentioning, Jerry?
Well if you had watched the video you would know that the organizer of that event said it himself.

Why ask for sources if you're just going to ignore them? Be advised that I'm a better troll than you so watch your ass and keep your debate clean.
 
Well if you had watched the video you would know that the organizer of that event said it himself.

Why ask for sources if you're just going to ignore them? Be advised that I'm a better troll than you so watch your ass and keep your debate clean.
I asked you who the sources were in the FoxNews article that you posted and you threaten me with your trollishiness? Tsk, tsk, tsk, that doesn't look good for your credibility or the article you posted.

There weren't any sources, Jerry. You've been duped by FoxNews....again.
 
I asked you who the sources were in the FoxNews article that you posted and you threaten me with your trollishiness? Tsk, tsk, tsk, that doesn't look good for your credibility or the article you posted.

There weren't any sources, Jerry. You've been duped by FoxNews....again.
LOL I don't even follow Faux News, I just linked to some random **** off the serch page. But hey, that's ok, you can keep ignoring the video and the other links on the Google page I linked to. I would be mad to if I were shown up by an proud asshole.
 
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The point is we're trying to stay away from a police state. The self-righteous like the OWS crowd and collectivists and socialist are the biggest threat to our freedoms.
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Seriously? Patriot Act? Kill Lists? And protesters are a "threat to our freedom"?
Cool typical talking point.
 
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Seriously? Patriot Act? Kill Lists? And protesters are a "threat to our freedom"?
Cool typical talking point.
Read 20th century history. I would direct you to a self-righteous cadre extolling the wonders of socialism for the working man. If it's too much of a chore, the first couple of chapters of "Animal Farm" is a lot easier. If you still don't get it, read the rest of the book.
 
Read 20th century history. I would direct you to a self-righteous cadre extolling the wonders of socialism for the working man. If it's too much of a chore, the first couple of chapters of "Animal Farm" is a lot easier. If you still don't get it, read the rest of the book.

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Book is about Stalinism.
Book was written by a socialist himself, who was anti stalinist.
 
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Book is about Stalinism.
Book was written by a socialist himself, who was anti stalinist.
The message is none-the-less clear. Making the same mistake because some say that this is the "new improved socialism" is a fool's errand. Sure, they too were for the working class, for democracy and for socialism.

Countries as illiterate and uninformed as those which adopted your workers paradise last century is where your focus should be. The remaining bastions of illiteracy and poverty in Africa and South America are perhaps the last of a shrinking pool of areas to infect, but even there it's probably too late.
 
The message is none-the-less clear. Making the same mistake because some say that this is the "new improved socialism" is a fool's errand. Sure, they too were for the working class, for democracy and for socialism.

Countries as illiterate and uninformed as those which adopted your workers paradise last century is where your focus should be. The remaining bastions of illiteracy and poverty in Africa and South America are perhaps the last of a shrinking pool of areas to infect, but even there it's probably too late.

Uhhhhh Democratic socialism is not the "new and improved" its been around for quite a while, actually a very long time.....
 
You can have rights but still not like your government, you may dislike Barack Obama, but you still have your rights.

Has nothing to do with my response. Again, by YOUR definition, an anarchist who asserts they have rights has proven by that assertion they are no anarchist. At least follow along with your own philosophy.

That's you're opinion. If you were harassed and beaten, Would you want your own countrymen to stand by and say 'He's a dumbass, why should we care?'.

If I were being a dumbass like this crew, yes.

Would you have a problem if Occupy X-ers were being harassed and beaten, even if they were not committing a crime?

Yes and no. I hate the morons who trashed downtown Portland and would take some small and private comfort in seeing them get their asses kicked. If I were asked to authorize such a thing however, the answer would be no. That doesn't apply here. There was a warrant, so there was the presumption a crime has been committed.
 
Uhhhhh Democratic socialism is not the "new and improved" its been around for quite a while, actually a very long time.....
We've seen it. The entire East Block were "democratic" and socialist. GDR, USSR, DPRK (Democratic People Republic of Korea) and so on. But sure, it'll be different this time around.
 
We've seen it. The entire East Block were "democratic" and socialist. GDR, USSR, DPRK (Democratic People Republic of Korea) and so on. But sure, it'll be different this time around.

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Logic is not your thing.
Ever heard of a misnomer?
 
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Logic is not your thing.
Ever heard of a misnomer?
I have, and I furthermore have enough of a grasp of world history to understand that when a cadre of self-righteous mental midgets masquerading as intellectual elites sets out to change the world, we get totalitarian states like those fore-mentioned.

But of course, it'll be different this time around.
 
I have, and I furthermore have enough of a grasp of world history to understand that when a cadre of self-righteous mental midgets masquerading as intellectual elites sets out to change the world, we get totalitarian states like those fore-mentioned.

But of course, it'll be different this time around.

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Yes Latin Americas pink tide is very "authoritarian" :roll:
Ghandi was a real authoritarian
MLK was a real authoritarian
Tony Benn is real authoritarian
Thomas Paine was a real authoritarian


So you actually wanna have a real discussion or are we just gonna keep on going back to really ****ty talking points of no value?
 
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Yes Latin Americas pink tide is very "authoritarian" :roll:
Ghandi was a real authoritarian
MLK was a real authoritarian
Tony Benn is real authoritarian
Thomas Paine was a real authoritarian


So you actually wanna have a real discussion or are we just gonna keep on going back to really ****ty talking points of no value?
No we are certainly not. Hackneyed again, but it reminds me of a definition of insanity: repeating the same thing and expecting different results.

I am through dancing with you on this. Take it to the streets and to anyone gullible enough to buy into your new world order. Good luck with it. I myself prefer minimally restrained freedoms to your "brave new world".

Ciao
 
No we are certainly not. Hackneyed again, but it reminds me of a definition of insanity: repeating the same thing and expecting different results.

I am through dancing with you on this. Take it to the streets and to anyone gullible enough to buy into your new world order. Good luck with it. I myself prefer minimally restrained freedoms to your "brave new world".

Ciao

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So you dont have anything to contribute to this conversation, other than the same ****ty talking points?
Gotcha!
 
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I gave examples of protesters being paid. That backs up the claim.

It's one reason why the whole Organize-X is illegitimate. Another reason, a bigger reason IMO, is that ACORN is behind a majority of it, as previously sourced.

It's not a legitimate grievance of the people. It's a special interest group turning up the heat after being caught in illegal activities and shut down.

You're right, that is what you said, and I apologize.

But that's wrong.

ACORN had no hand in organizing the original protests (OWS) and most, if not all, of the protesters were there by their own will. Unless you have something to prove otherwise, again, it means nothing.
 
Has nothing to do with my response. Again, by YOUR definition, an anarchist who asserts they have rights has proven by that assertion they are no anarchist. At least follow along with your own philosophy.

They're still granted the rights by the system, they're born with them in the U.S. and have them from the start.

If I were being a dumbass like this crew, yes.

I find that hard to believe.

Yes and no. I hate the morons who trashed downtown Portland and would take some small and private comfort in seeing them get their asses kicked. If I were asked to authorize such a thing however, the answer would be no. That doesn't apply here. There was a warrant, so there was the presumption a crime has been committed.

But I'm asking you as a generalized question. If there was no crime involved, would you be alright with 'Occupiers' getting beaten and harassed?
 
They're still granted the rights by the system, they're born with them in the U.S. and have them from the start.

So? My point is true anarchists don't claim those rights, just as they don't honor the authority of the system that granted them.

I find that hard to believe.

Well with the nonsense you do seem to believe, that's hardly surprising.

But I'm asking you as a generalized question. If there was no crime involved, would you be alright with 'Occupiers' getting beaten and harassed?

I gave you a generalized answer. It's the same answer as if you had asked if I think KKK ralliers should be beaten and harassed absent criminal behavior. In my mind I'd revel in seeing it, but if asked to authorize it, the answer would be no.

Again, that's a strawman in this instance. These folks WERE at least suspected of criminal behavior and a crime WAS involved.
 
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