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Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

webrockk said:
This thread perfectly and predictably reveals
that in Progressive Leftieville and Liberal Hollow
there are acceptable and unacceptable forms of racism...

The "acceptable" racism is borne from a lust to continue harvesting the "victim" vote....
for without pandered to, apologized for, coddled and excused "victims"...

the left would never win a single election.
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According to the article, they're going to burn a cross at the end. Going to defend the KKK?

The whole point of the thread was to play the conservative victim "oooh, the government hates me, the media hates me. I'm the most persecuted person in the history of the world!"
 
Kal'Stang said:
Personally I see Emperica's point. Just look at this thread for instance.
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I looked at this thread. Namely, I looked at the OP. We all see her "point". The issue is, her "point" is illigitimate in its premise because she's making it based off a false equivilent. PERHAPS if she was actually putting forth something that is similar to say, the Black Congressional Caucus, or other such groups then there'd be actual discussion about her "point". However...her "point", based on what she's actually said and what she's actually using as a reference, is that somehow it is a "double standard" to suggest the Congressional Black Caucus isn't racist but that a group who believes that Whites are the "Chosen People", who support the KKK, who glorify the KKK's history of violence based SINGULARLY on race by ending their ceremony with a standard practice of the organization is. There's nothing "legitimate" nor to "see" with that point. There's no equivilency, there's no similarity, it's talking about a green banana and and a cucumber and attempting to pass them off as the same thing because they're both green.

Emperica's "point" isn't being made or isn't being accepted because her actual "point" is clear based on what she used for as the source of her topic. You can't ignore it and suggest she used the wrong "Source" for her point because her ACTUAL point is directly tied into it.
 
Misterveritis said:
I don't care whether you take my word for it or not, actually.
I have lived a long time and in a lot of places. I have run across far more black racists than white racists. You would be blind to it. That is just the nature of the differences between liberals who are blind to black racism and conservatives who see the world as it actually is.
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Yeah, please don't paint your ignorance on this issue across all of conservatives. It's insulting.
 
Zyphlin said:
I looked at this thread. Namely, I looked at the OP. We all see her "point". The issue is, her "point" is illigitimate in its premise because she's making it based off a false equivilent. PERHAPS if she was actually putting forth something that is similar to say, the Black Congressional Caucus, or other such groups then there'd be actual discussion about her "point". However...her "point", based on what she's actually said and what she's actually using as a reference, is that somehow it is a "double standard" to suggest the Congressional Black Caucus isn't racist but that a group who believes that Whites are the "Chosen People", who support the KKK, who glorify the KKK's history of violence based SINGULARLY on race by ending their ceremony with a standard practice of the organization is. There's nothing "legitimate" nor to "see" with that point. There's no equivilency, there's no similarity, it's talking about a green banana and and a cucumber and attempting to pass them off as the same thing because they're both green.

Emperica's "point" isn't being made or isn't being accepted because her actual "point" is clear based on what she used for as the source of her topic. You can't ignore it and suggest she used the wrong "Source" for her point because her ACTUAL point is directly tied into it.
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Perhaps if she compared the black panthers with the KKK, she might have a point, but everyone hates the black panthers too.
 
I am unaware of any recent Christian meetings where the invitees were "black only." I wonder if the praetorian guard similarly felt oppressed by Christians and peasants?Thankfully I don't have to label the OP author anything this time since this thread munificently demonstrates all here are aware what that person is about.
 
Redress said:
I do not like racism period, thank you very much. Do you know that horrible feeling you get around people who have lost an argument but refuse to admit it? I am getting that feeling now. You are making claims you cannot back up to make a point that fails because you have no evidence to back up that point. That is like a very concise explanation of how to fail.
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There was no argument. I clearly identified that mine is anecdotal evidence. It is opinion. I did not hawk it as anything else Redress. Some people refuse to accept that anyone of any color can be racist. Those on the left, where I see you, tend not to ever see black racism. And yet evidence of it is all around us. For example, have you ever seen a nomination for White Engineer of the Year? Yet we see Black Engineer of the Year. We see a Black Caucus but no White Caucus. Why is that?
 
webrockk said:
This thread perfectly and predictably reveals
that in Progressive Leftieville and Liberal Hollow
there are acceptable and unacceptable forms of racism...

The "acceptable" racism is borne from a lust to continue harvesting the "victim" vote....
for without pandered to, apologized for, coddled and excused "victims"...

the left would never win a single election.
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I wonder if you think this is original? Whatever is the cause of its gross repetition, it does not become more true through the repeating. Do you spare the military when they vote for a weapon's system or a rise in pay for their families? Do you unleash a conspiracy theory on Republicans when Christians vote for a candidate who espouses judicial restraint and a commitment to overturn Roe? No? Then why would you manufacture a convoluted conspiracy theory about victimhood when a simpler explanation that people vote their interests will do? Occam's razor. Why would you characterize African Americans as a deluded conservatorship unable to grasp their own interests? This idea, a staple right wing trope, is as insulting to black people as it is cliched.
 
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Wiggen said:
A guy from Alabama whining about black racism. It doesn't get any better than this. :lamo
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I understand that you cannot see any racism other than white. It is a slightly liberal thing, isn't it?
 
Empirica said:
Those stupid white people!__Don't they know that "racial exclusion" is a privilege exclusively for minorities?!
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So close...should have just stuck with "those stupid people...dont they know racial exclusivity of all types is a rite practiced only by morons"?
 
Misterveritis said:
There was no argument. I clearly identified that mine is anecdotal evidence. It is opinion. I did not hawk it as anything else Redress. Some people refuse to accept that anyone of any color can be racist. Those on the left, where I see you, tend not to ever see black racism. And yet evidence of it is all around us. For example, have you ever seen a nomination for White Engineer of the Year? Yet we see Black Engineer of the Year. We see a Black Caucus but no White Caucus. Why is that?
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There is a huge and not subtle difference between mutual self help organizations, such as NAACP, CARW, etc that are primarily about advancement and help. (Notice that organizations like NAACP do not bar other races from joining), and organizations like black panthers, La Raza, KKK, etc that are about supremacy of a particular race.

A good litmus test is "will this group only allow members of their own race or are they open to all races?" For example, if I wanted to, I could go to morhouse next semester, yet many here would call it racist. If it were, I would be barred from membership.
 
Zyphlin said:
Yeah, please don't paint your ignorance on this issue across all of conservatives. It's insulting.
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What? Ignorance? Are you so sheltered that you have never been exposed to black racism. Have you never heard the word cracker?

Awesome.
 
Misterveritis said:
I have to be nice. It seems I am on the verge of a suspension.
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You too? It appears to be catchy in this place. The surgeon general advised the virus can be averted if you wear a small square mustache.
 
Misterveritis said:
What? Ignorance? Are you so sheltered that you have never been exposed to black racism. Have you never heard the word cracker?

Awesome.
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You claim to have never met a white racist. That seems pretty sheltered to me.
 
megaprogman said:
There is a huge and not subtle difference between mutual self help organizations, such as NAACP, CARW, etc that are primarily about advancement and help. (Notice that organizations like NAACP do not bar other races from joining), and organizations like black panthers, La Raza, KKK, etc that are about supremacy of a particular race.

A good litmus test is "will this group only allow members of their own race or are they open to all races?" For example, if I wanted to, I could go to morhouse next semester, yet many here would call it racist. If it were, I would be barred from membership.
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So you do see that all "races" have their racists. Awesome.
 
Misterveritis said:
So you do see that all "races" have their racists. Awesome.
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Of course all races have racists, but we should categorize organizations properly. NAACP is far from a racist organization (now the southern christian leadership conference probably is racist as they have pretty much run MLK's legacy through the shredder at this point), but this is the point I was responding to.

I will leave it up to your special brand of logic to find out how you made the leap from this simple point to what you concluded.
 
rocket88 said:
You claim to have never met a white racist. That seems pretty sheltered to me.
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I have been to a lot of places. I have dealt with a lot of people. I have never met anyone, white, who is racist. Rather than sheltered I think white racism is rare these days. Your mileage may vary.
 
Misterveritis said:
I have been to a lot of places. I have dealt with a lot of people. I have never met anyone, white, who is racist. Rather than sheltered I think white racism is rare these days. Your mileage may vary.
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If you ever come down to these parts (and you live pretty close by, huntsville is about two hours away), I will introduce you to my wife's family.
 
Racism against whites is not a real problem. Anyone activated by that artificial notion is a member of the white underclass misdirecting their class resentment. The Klan (and/or its sundry splinter groups, I really don't care) would be more wise to direct venom at brahmin New England blue bloods like Romney than their poor brown brothers who share their plight. It's really quite pathetic. Talk about misdirected anger and illogical fealty to a cause.
 
megaprogman said:
Of course all races have racists, but we should categorize organizations properly. NAACP is far from a racist organization (now the southern christian leadership conference probably is racist as they have pretty much run MLK's legacy through the shredder at this point), but this is the point I was responding to.

I will leave it up to your special brand of logic to find out how you made the leap from this simple point to what you concluded.
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I cannot recall bringing up the national association of (liberal) colored people. They are more socialistic than racist.

What did I conclude? That all races have their racists? Yeah, that is quite a leap.
Or did you disagree that liberals tend not to see any racism beyond white racism? Do you see any evidence here that I am wrong?

Poll the liberals to see just how uncomfortable they are with the very idea that blacks can be racist. Of course the measurement is likely to change the answers as liberals want to be well thought of...hmm. This might present them with a quandary.
 
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Quote me a law anywhere in the country that states caucasions cannot gather exclusively apart from other races. By the way, I just filled out a Merrill Lynch IRA form and including my RACE was mandatory.
 
Misterveritis said:
I cannot recall bringing up the national association of (liberal) colored people. They are more socialistic than racist.

What did I conclude? That all races have their racists? Yeah, that is quite a leap.
Or did you disagree that liberals tend not to see any racism beyond white racism? Do you see any evidence here that I am wrong?

Poll the liberals to see just how uncomfortable with the very idea that blacks can be racist. Of course the measurement is likely to change the answers as liberals want to be well thought of...hmm. This might present them with a quandary.
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Here is one instance where you brought it up

Misterveritis said:
There was no argument. I clearly identified that mine is anecdotal evidence. It is opinion. I did not hawk it as anything else Redress. Some people refuse to accept that anyone of any color can be racist. Those on the left, where I see you, tend not to ever see black racism. And yet evidence of it is all around us. For example, have you ever seen a nomination for White Engineer of the Year? Yet we see Black Engineer of the Year. We see a Black Caucus but no White Caucus. Why is that?
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You asked a question, I gave you an answer.

As far as what kind of racism liberals are interested in. In general liberals are more sympathetic towards who they see as the underdog in a particular situation. Often times, this would be minority groups. This is more of the motivation, I think, than any racist notions.
 
Your Star said:
The KKK is a violent hate group.
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I am just wondering if you think the Black Panthers are a violent hate group too.

According to National Field Marshal for the New Black Panthers King Samir Shabazz:
•“I love white-on white-crime, because that is the best crime.”
•“I hate the g*ddamn white man, woman, and child, grandma, aunt, uncle, Pappa Billy Bob, and whoever else.”
•“You should be thankful we’re not running around here hanging crackers by nooses and all that kind of stuff — yet, yet, yet”
•He has a “wet dream about killing the g*ddamn cracker.”
•“We don’t allow faggots and lesbians” in the New Black Panther Army
•Envisions a world where every black person is “ready to bang on this cracker”
•Wants to take over neighborhoods “block by block” so “crackers…or even the developer” would be scared to come into them
•“We’re taught to send this cracker to the cemetery… so kiss ‘em goodbye”


New Black Panthers King Samir Shabazz: Whites ‘Should be Thankful We’re Not…Hanging Crackers By Nooses…Yet’ | Video | TheBlaze.com
 
megaprogman said:
Here is one instance where you brought it up



You asked a question, I gave you an answer.

As far as what kind of racism liberals are interested in. In general liberals are more sympathetic towards who they see as the underdog in a particular situation. Often times, this would be minority groups. This is more of the motivation, I think, than any racist notions.
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Do you really thing the Black Caucus is the same as the NAA(L)CP?
 
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