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New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

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Mya said:
so give them a break then!:shrug:
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I call em like I see em. good cops i Support. batf turds stomping kittens-I say they ought to be someone's prison bitch for 15 to life
 
Mya said:
I respect the Police.
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If you took a poll...a real poll of a huge sampling of adults and asked who do you have more respect for as a profession overall...Police Officers or Lawyers..Im of the opinion Police Officers would win handily.
 
TurtleDude said:
I call em like I see em. good cops i Support. batf turds stomping kittens-I say they ought to be someone's prison bitch for 15 to life
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And what about the good cop that gets a wrong house number from the dispatcher?
 
danarhea said:
And what about the good cop that gets a wrong house number from the dispatcher?
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Identify immediately, assess the situation, diffuse, listen, live.
 
danarhea said:
And what about the good cop that gets a wrong house number from the dispatcher?
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depends what he does-if he goes in no knock and draws down on a homeowner-id rather have a dead cop than a dead homeowner
 
TurtleDude said:
I call em like I see em. good cops i Support. batf turds stomping kittens-I say they ought to be someone's prison bitch for 15 to life
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I agree when they break the law they should pay the price...but you like to make it sound like its an overwhelming amount of police...and you dont seem to ever mention scum lawyers which are abundant, should they go to jail too ?? how about scum doctors and scum accountants? How about saying everyone thats dirty and breaks the law should go to jail...heh..
 
lpast said:
If you took a poll...a real poll of a huge sampling of adults and asked who do you have more respect for as a profession overall...Police Officers or Lawyers..Im of the opinion Police Officers would win handily.
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I am sure that is true-ask about prosecutors though and I expect you'd get a different result than say criminal defense attorneys or plaintiff's attorneys. I don't see your point since I am not attacking the police in general, I am merely supporting a law that protects honest people victimized by corrupt or negligent cops
 
lpast said:
I agree when they break the law they should pay the price...but you like to make it sound like its an overwhelming amount of police...and you dont seem to ever mention scum lawyers which are abundant, should they go to jail too ?? how about scum doctors and scum accountants? How about saying everyone thats dirty and breaks the law should go to jail...heh..
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this has nothing to do with lawyers or most cops. I wish there were a lot less lawyers-half the civil suits I see are BS-at least-filed by too many lawyers chasing too few legitimate claims
 
lpast said:
I agree when they break the law they should pay the price...but you like to make it sound like its an overwhelming amount of police...and you dont seem to ever mention scum lawyers which are abundant, should they go to jail too ?? how about scum doctors and scum accountants? How about saying everyone thats dirty and breaks the law should go to jail...heh..
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Oh, I've seen TD blister the bad lawyers within the BAR a few times. Criminals and sheisters should pay, period.
 
Lokiate said:
Like hell they aren't. Citizens actually do have the right to detain others, or halt crimes in progress, and the US is the only country I know of that still does high speed chases, because it's a stupid and reckless policy that creates an even greater hazard to others. One thing I noticed when I came back to my hometown is that the cop cars here no longer have the decals saying "To Serve and Protect", because that's not what they're about. They're all for violating every portion of the Bill of Rights that they possibly can by tear gassing protestors the mayor doesn't like, enforcing gun laws that infringe on our 2nd amendment rights. They illegally search and seize property when the "suspect" is of weak enough character to be intimidated by a badge and so on. They oppress the People of the United States, and stand for everything we fought against to become a nation.

Authority is not granted, it is a contract between the populace, and those in positions of authority. If those in positions of authority abuse their power, the populace is well within their rights to not only reject, but oust the offending party, since the offending party has breached their end of the bargain. When you act like the right hand of tyranny against the citizens of the United States, you have breached that contract, and reap every consequence you have coming, and that's what this law is.
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By the populace you mean yourself and other like-minded individuals? After all, there would be no need to oust if elections could solve these problems for you? I wonder why the minority are always so loud in their opinion that they speak for the whole, personally I believe its because they know they truly don't speak for everyone.

This is all very nice rhetoric, but its just a perspective. Even you admit that from a pragmatic and realistic perspective that police are different than normal citizens, hell you listed yourself several reasons why in your opinion. Heck you dismiss the high speed cash exactly not by citing law, but by citing that its stupid and reckless in your opinion, not something we are arguing.

All I am saying, is that under the current laws police have special privileges that ordinary citizens do not have. You may not agree with these laws or what police do, but these laws do exist which give police special authorities and powers where ordinary citizens do not have them, that's all I'm saying.
 
LaMidRighter said:
That's my instict here. To me it is more of an effort to cofify protection in case something ever went to trial.
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This new law is in response to a case where the court ruled, "there is no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers." (see Richard Barnes v State of Indiana (2011) )

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.town...-5c55-bb00-2aa247134bbb/4dd2f6e903509.pdf.pdf

The problem of course is the 4th Amendment..."The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
 
danarhea said:
And what about the good cop that gets a wrong house number from the dispatcher?
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In turtles world the citizen should break out a 50 caliber and just blow him into one inch chunks and he would be his hero.

Tell ya this, they pass a law like that...there will be alot of citizens paying the price...because every cop will stop at the curb...until they change that law...Cops are NOT required to go to work and die and get hurt for stupid chit...they die at time doing their job and they all accept thats a possiblity...but to have morons pass a law like this...not my function.

Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2012 ...I looked for the Lawyer down website but it was porn site and I couldnt post it
 
danarhea said:
And what about the good cop that gets a wrong house number from the dispatcher?
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That's another reason there should be less no-knock warrants.

They would be better off staking out the residence and arresting the suspect as he walks toward his parked car.
 
lpast said:
If you took a poll...a real poll of a huge sampling of adults and asked who do you have more respect for as a profession overall...Police Officers or Lawyers..Im of the opinion Police Officers would win handily.
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What does have to so with these issues at hand?
 
What's the next step ??????? You are able to shoot a police when they poke their heads inside your car window????????? :roll::roll::roll:
 
Connery said:
This new law is in response to a case where the court ruled, "there is no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers." (see Richard Barnes v State of Indiana (2011) )

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.town...-5c55-bb00-2aa247134bbb/4dd2f6e903509.pdf.pdf

The problem of course is the 4th Amendment..."The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
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Ah. The article was light on that detail from what I saw. Makes sense, it's amazing that basic rights now have to be put into law for protection against abuse, it's self evident that people have a right to be secure in their property.
 
Connery said:
What does have to so with these issues at hand?
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he thinks-being a retired cop-that this thread is an attack on him personally so he figured he'd try to attack attorneys-I am one. its silly stupid and misses its mark
 
Mya said:
What's the next step ??????? You are able to shoot a police when they poke their heads inside your car window????????? :roll::roll::roll:
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If they pull you over without probable cause why not? Stopping you just to look for something is not within their scope of powers.
 
Mya said:
What's the next step ??????? You are able to shoot a police when they poke their heads inside your car window????????? :roll::roll::roll:
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what is the overly emotional responses? are you a cop or married to one?
 
johnny_rebson said:
That's another reason there should be less no-knock warrants.

They would be better off staking out the residence and arresting the suspect as he walks toward his parked car.
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Nope nada not...no knock warrants are for the officer safety and to assure evidence isnt disposed off...no cop in thier right mind is going to knock and allow them to lock and load inside and blow their brains out as they go through the door one at a time...lol...seriously
 
LaMidRighter said:
If they pull you over without probable cause why not? Stopping you just to look for something is not within their scope of powers.
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LMAOoooooooooooooooooooooooo...ok this has gotten way beyond absurd im out of here...have fun with the bashing...lol incredible
 
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