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Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

Transportation, damn, first it was medical facilities and medications and now transportation that you need society for. This thing keeps snowballing on you doesn't it. I wonder if there is anything else you need society for...............hmmm........................

Where do you see anything about transportation?
 
No. In this case I'm advocating running them down. In terms of the NG I had advocated bayoneting. They aren't worth the cost of the bullets necessary to shoot them.



Meh most are misguided kids... killing them seems a litle extreme., I for one will steer my 650 around the dirty hippies, as I usually have it freshly washed.....
 
Where do you see anything about transportation?

Were you thinking of teleportation to get your medications and medical services to you?

If there was a way to get those medications and services without ANY involvement in society, I'd have been up for it a long time ago.

You will need society to pull off teleportation too I'm afraid.
 
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Beef and if you take the first amendment fully to the states you have take them all which means the gun laws in NY are illegal.
 
What a pathetic decision.

It was the protestors responsibility to listen to the bullhorn. Singular or not.
Nor do Officers have to repeatedly give warnings. The protestors should have listened the first time.

I hope this is appealed, any class action stayed until, and overturned.

Agreed and since when has it been legal for pedestrians to walk down the middle of a road meant for vehicle traffic? Why did they need someone to tell them that in the first place?
 
Beef and if you take the first amendment fully to the states you have take them all which means the gun laws in NY are illegal.

They are: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 
The Judges ruling confirms that the 1% do not own the judicial system. Which even if the lawsuit is won by the protesters all that it will prove is that they were wrong. The victory goes to the US for proving that the protesters are creating a false message.
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Right...... Corporations are people... :roll:
 
They are: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
so u agree I should not need a license to own a hand gun.
 
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Right...... Corporations are people... :roll:
The people that own Corporations are people. BTW I do not support person-hood for Corporations never have never will. But then I wasnt even talking about Corporations., what i was talking about is the fact that despite the accusation by the protesters that the judicial system is bought and paid for and works only for the wealthy, the case that they filed was ruled on in a fair equal legal manner. Which indicates a working justice system, which can those people in those Corporation to justice.
I find it funny that the Left in this case asserts that person-hood is wrong for Corporation's but they never really address Corporation's as not being a single entity. You guys should be using names instead of just talking about mysterious Corporations. Hell it would be great if you guys at least named the Corporations that are persecuting OWS. Seriously who are they? I mean its starting to sound just like those crazy conspiracy theorists and their 9/11 craze.
 
If they aren't remaining peaceful, then I rescind my argument. So far, I have only seen the police (members of a government organization) being the aggressors in this conflict.

Most of the time they are not. They are intentionally disrupting others.
 
Were you thinking of teleportation to get your medications and medical services to you?

No. I was planning on getting myself to them, not the other way around.
 
No. I was planning on getting myself to them, not the other way around.

The roads you travel on were paved from the dirty slimy immoral people you hate so much. Your life as it is now, in almost every way is due to those people. You talk a big talk tigger, but you don't walk the walk. If you did, you wouldn't be using the medicine, you would live in some other country fending for yourself.

You rely on society and therefore directly support that society with taxes, payments to those dirty slimy immoral people, and you help support the system you despise. You may not like it which is fine, but you are sacrificing all your morals each and every day to support it if we are to take your authoritarianism seriously.
 
You rely on society and therefore directly support that society with taxes, payments to those dirty slimy immoral people, and you help support the system you despise. You may not like it which is fine, but you are sacrificing all your morals each and every day to support it if we are to take your authoritarianism seriously.

Which is why I go out of my way to pay as little in taxes as possible, TNE. That's part of why I will never own a home (removing all property taxes), why I tend to keep my motor vehicles as long as possible (reducing my excise taxes), and don't work any more OT than absolutely necessary (reducing my income tax). I also do certain things to (legally) hide as much of my income from taxation as possible. Trust me, I have no more interest in putting any more money in the Government's pocket than necessary. Now, if the Government ran properly, I'd have no problem paying significantly more in taxes than I do now.

You are correct that unfortunately I do have to rely on the system that I despise. It's not something I like at all, but rather something that Fate has forced upon me. I have several of the complications of a malady known as Sturge-Weber Syndrome and that requires me to have access to medical treatment regularly, whether I like it or not. I had a Grand Mal seizure at age 4. I had glaucoma surgery at age 18. More than likely I'm going to have to have a knee replaced before I'm 50. I have regularly considered whether or not it would simply be easier just to take the proverbial "Long walk off the short pier", and have come close a couple of times because of my disgust at what I have to sacrifice at times to continue living.
 
The people that own Corporations are people.
A corporation now these days is considered a person.
Ben a Jerry are people. Ben & Jerry's is not a person.

what i was talking about is the fact that despite the accusation by the protesters that the judicial system is bought and paid for and works only for the wealthy, the case that they filed was ruled on in a fair equal legal manner. Which indicates a working justice system, which can those people in those Corporation to justice.
Sure.
I was never accusing the justice system of being rigged. However in SOME CASES the justice system fails miserably.
 
A corporation now these days is considered a person.
Ben a Jerry are people. Ben & Jerry's is not a person.
Yes, we agree on this point.


Sure.
I was never accusing the justice system of being rigged. However in SOME CASES the justice system fails miserably.
You were not, but the accusation comes from many in the OWS movement. The judges ruling only assumes that a few officers violated the protesters rights. It is a far cry form Corporations and the 1% manipulating the system in their favor. if it were true that the Government and the judicial system were in control by Corporations and the 1% no judge would have made such a ruling. Especially right now when there is the appearance of the movement dying or at least returning to its small numbered fringe reality. Plus OWS likes to claim that the media is under control of Corporations and the 1% yet we keep hearing about OWS. Perhaps OWS is stretching the truth? Wouldnt that dishonesty just aid those that they are protesting against?
 
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EPlus OWS likes to claim that the media is under control of Corporations
Well its a fact that it is
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and the 1% yet we keep hearing about OWS.
Not really not anymore.
First they ignored the movement painted it as a joke. Then they said **** maybe they are something, then they started arresting people, and then they painted them as a bunch of anarchists radicals burning ****...

Perhaps OWS is stretching the truth? Wouldnt that dishonesty just aid those that they are protesting against?
What truth? What that the media is owned and ran by corporations? That isnt a lie at all... IT iss....
 
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What does any of that have to do with keeping off the road? There are plenty of things you cannot do while you are also exercising free speech.
 
What does any of that have to do with keeping off the road? There are plenty of things you cannot do while you are also exercising free speech.

So its only free speech and peaceful in verified and accepted "zones"?

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Thats some great "freedom" there...
 
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So its only free speech and peaceful in verified and accepted "zones"?

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Thats some great "freedom" there...

If you want to see it that way, yes. You can't claim freedom of speech when yelling, "Fire!" in a crowded theater either. Oh my, all your rights are gone! :mrgreen:
 
If you want to see it that way, yes. You can't claim freedom of speech when yelling, "Fire!" in a crowded theater either. Oh my, all your rights are gone! :mrgreen:

You do realize that argument was devised to support the unconstitutional Alien and Sedition acts that allowed imprisonment of people who spoke out against the US Government, right?
 
You do realize that argument was devised to support the unconstitutional Alien and Sedition acts that allowed imprisonment of people who spoke out against the US Government, right?

Actually, it's a paraphase from Justice Holmes in a decision upholding the Espionage Act.

Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919), was a United States Supreme Court decision that upheld the Espionage Act of 1917 and concluded that a defendant did not have a First Amendment right to express freedom of speech against the draft during World War I. Ultimately, the case established the "clear and present danger" test, which lasted until 1969 when protection for speech was raised in Brandenburg v. Ohio to "Imminent lawless action".

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Another of my favorite pearls of wisdom from the court: Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.
 
The fact that it's their Constitutional right to protest. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

Except that's a bit of a reframe. The right is to peacefully assemble. Now, unless you are going to assert that common traffic law should be overturned because it hinders the right to free speech or assemblage, it's a law you have to follow to get to the peaceful assembly right.
 
Except that's a bit of a reframe. The right is to peacefully assemble. Now, unless you are going to assert that common traffic law should be overturned because it hinders the right to free speech or assemblage, it's a law you have to follow to get to the peaceful assembly right.

If its unconstitutional to have free speech zones the why is it it constitutional to have gun control isn't that a violation of my second amendment rights? Do we not have an incorporated constitution.
 
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