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Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

Thunder said:
as long as you are not striking others, you are being peaceful. Non-violent protest and passive resistence includes blocking traffic with your passive body.
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Just because some form of protest is "non violent" does not mean it is legal.
 
vendur said:
Since when do police need to warn someone before arresting them? Do they need to send it in writing, in triplicate, too?
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They must allow people to disperse before making arrests. They usually give 3 or 4 disperse announcement before making a arrest at protests.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
They must allow people to disperse before making arrests. They usually give 3 or 4 disperse announcement before making a arrest at protests.
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indeed, they should have warned the people on the bridge that if they did not walk back towards Manhattan they would get arrested.

however, if the NYPD told the folks before they went onto the bridge that if they walked on the bridge they will get arrested, that's another story.

however, walking on the car lanes of the Brooklyn Bridge without a protest permit, is pretty much asking to be arrested. Being arrested is part of the whole strategy of non-violent resistance and peaceful protest, so fighting it in court is kinda...well...lame.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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This is just a small victory. Maybe the NYPD were just out to knock those "Un-American hippie heads"? Who knows. But just a small victory.

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The Judges ruling confirms that the 1% do not own the judicial system. Which even if the lawsuit is won by the protesters all that it will prove is that they were wrong. The victory goes to the US for proving that the protesters are creating a false message.
 
digsbe said:
A wrongful arrest is a wrongful arrest and justice should be served. Although this doesn't diminish the hundreds of other legal arrests of OWS individuals that did violate laws and merited being arrested. You have a right to protest, but there are also other laws and ordinances that must be respected.

Then again, the illegal actions of some don't equate with the sentiment of the majority.
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I agree with digsbe on this one.
 
Thunder said:
as long as you are not striking others, you are being peaceful. Non-violent protest and passive resistence includes blocking traffic with your passive body.
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Yep. Of course the cure for that is running their asses down like the chipmunks and squirrels these people are.
 
Tigger said:
Yep. Of course the cure for that is running their asses down like the chipmunks and squirrels these people are.
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That would be great, then that would be vehicular homicide and the protestors would have legal reason to shoot the driver. Good call, when are you going to drive out to one of these Tigger?
 
TheNextEra said:
That would be great, then that would be vehicular homicide and the protestors would have legal reason to shoot the driver. Good call, when are you going to drive out to one of these Tigger?
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LOL. You think that any of the OWS crew would own a gun? Most probably have a pot conviction on their record which ensures they can't legally carry a concealed weapon in every state I'm aware of. Besides, NYC hands out CCW permits with about the frequency that I hand out compliments to Hillary Clinton.

Even if they did happen to have one, those hippy freaks wouldn't have the guts to actually use it for its intended purpose.
 
Tigger said:
Even if they did happen to have one, those hippy freaks wouldn't have the guts to actually use it for its intended purpose.
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Well I guess you are alike then because I can see you don't have the guts to do what you said either.
 
Tigger said:
LOL. You think that any of the OWS crew would own a gun? Most probably have a pot conviction on their record which ensures they can't legally carry a concealed weapon in every state I'm aware of.
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Possession of marijuana is a misdemeanor, and not a bar from legal gun ownership. I have a POM charge, and had no problems getting my 38.
 
Lokiate said:
Possession of marijuana is a misdemeanor, and not a bar from legal gun ownership. I have a POM charge, and had no problems getting my 38.
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Interesting. In the State of Massachusetts (and all the other Northeastern states I'm aware of) ANY drug or alcohol related conviction is an automatic disqualifying factor for any CCW license.
 
Tigger said:
Interesting. In the State of Massachusetts (and all the other Northeastern states I'm aware of) ANY drug or alcohol related conviction is an automatic disqualifying factor for any CCW license.
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I have a CHL too. That said, the law has never stopped unlicensed carry before, why would it stop unlicensed carry now?
 
Lokiate said:
I have a CHL too. That said, the law has never stopped unlicensed carry before, why would it stop unlicensed carry now?
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I tend to doubt the OWSers would see any point in gun ownership. I mean, they're the fruity, crunchy types who believe in Peace, Free Love, and Equality. The ones I've run into (in several MA and CT cities) have been the sort of people I generally classify one way.... prey animals. They're not the predator type. That's one of the things I find as disgusting about OWS as I do about the Tea Party.... none of them are actually willing to DO SOMETHING about what they believe in.
 
Tigger said:
I mean, they're the fruity, crunchy types who believe in Peace, Free Love, and Equality.
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We sure wouldn't want any of that, would we? :cool:
 
Tigger said:
Nope. Not under any circumstances.
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You prefer war, hate, and inequality, eh? Well I guess you are in pig heaven then aren't you?
 
Catawba said:
You prefer war, hate, and inequality, eh? Well I guess you are in pig heaven then aren't you?
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I prefer to stand on Principles rather than ignoring them in an attempt to reach not only Unattainable goals, but ones that will do nothing to further the firm division between Right and Wrong.

Peace is the buzzword of those who do not really believe in anything and are unwilling to kill or die for any cause.

Free Love is the antithesis of the basic morality and values hat holds a society together.

Equality is the cry of those who either Want to do something they Shouldn't be doing, or who Can't do something they want to do (whether they Should or not). Life is not fair. It never has been and never will be. That's part of the point of Life. Learn to deal with it folks.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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Anyone walking on the roadway of the Brooklyn Bridge and doesn't expect to be arrested should not be allowed to procreate.

I'm sure there will be an appeal.
 
Tigger said:
Peace is the buzzword of those who do not really believe in anything and are unwilling to kill or die for any cause.
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How does your worldview account for veterans who have fought in wars and protest them when they get out?

Free Love is the antithesis of the basic morality and values hat holds a society together.
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I see, you believe it is OK to run down someone with your car but you draw the line at unmarried sex?

Equality is the cry of those who either Want to do something they Shouldn't be doing, or who Can't do something they want to do (whether they Should or not). Life is not fair. It never has been and never will be. That's part of the point of Life. Learn to deal with it folks.
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So you have no problem when the someone cheats you or robs you? That is OK in your book?
 
Catawba said:
How does your worldview account for veterans who have fought in wars and protest them when they get out?
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Not everyone who stares into the face of Death, Himself, comes away from the experience in the same state of mind they had before they met Him. Nobody, not even soldiers, yearns for War; but the man who states that he will never accept it as an option is either a Fool, a Coward, or most likely BOTH.

Catawba said:
I see, you believe it is OK to run down someone with your car but you draw the line at unmarried sex?
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Among other things, yes.

Catawba said:
So you have no problem when the someone cheats you or robs you? That is OK in your book?
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That's fine. Caveat Emptor. That man also needs to realize that the day I catch up with him, I'm not going to call the police. Instead I'm going to ensure he wishes he were dead long before he gets to meet Death, Himself.
 
Tigger said:
Not everyone who stares into the face of Death, Himself, comes away from the experience in the same state of mind they had before they met Him. Nobody, not even soldiers, yearns for War; but the man who states that he will never accept it as an option is either a Fool, a Coward, or most likely BOTH.
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So you have no problem risking your life, or killing another on behalf of big oil?


Among other things, yes.
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Man, that's some ****ed up **** right there.



That's fine. Caveat Emptor. That man also needs to realize that the day I catch up with him, I'm not going to call the police. Instead I'm going to ensure he wishes he were dead long before he gets to meet Death, Himself.
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So you don't believe in laws, everybody does what ever they want?


Its not too hard to see why no one shares your beliefs!
 
Catawba said:
So you have no problem risking your life, or killing another on behalf of big oil?
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If they're paying me enough and/or I feel the cause is sufficiently good, none whatsoever.

Catawba said:
Man, that's some ****ed up **** right there.
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If you say so.

Catawba said:
So you don't believe in laws, everybody does what ever they want?
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I believe in laws. I also believe in a JUSTICE system (which is not what the US has currently) and that Vigilanteeism is more than acceptable when the law does not or will not step in to make things right. If the JUSTICE system does not work, or does not exist, then the laws are worthless. What's the point in having a speed limit when nobody follows it and nobody ever gets truly punished for not following it? Laws without consequences are worthless.
 
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