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Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

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a federal judge has ruled that the officers at the head of the march failed to sufficiently warn the Occupy Wall Street protesters that walking on the roadway would result in arrest and opened the path for a massive class action lawsuit against the NYPD. New York’s “finest” have been accused of wrongful arrests and ​
unnecessary violence
multiple times as the movement grew.“A reasonable officer in the noisy environment defendants occupied would have known that a single bull horn could not reasonably communicate a message to 700 demonstrators,” wrote Jed S Rakoff of the federal district court in Manhattan, in his decision. Rakoff added that protesters “might infer permission to enter the vehicular roadway from the fact that officers, without offering further warnings, proceeded ahead of and alongside plaintiffs onto that roadway”.Video shot by marchers was a huge factor in Rakoff’s decision, and reinforced protesters allegations that the police had led them onto the roadway, indicating that it was fine for the people to follow. Police maintained that the demonstrators were sufficiently informed that walking on the area intended for vehicles would result in detention, but even their own video footage did not support this claim.
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Read more @: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge | Care2 Causes

This is just a small victory. Maybe the NYPD were just out to knock those "Un-American hippie heads"? Who knows. But just a small victory.

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A wrongful arrest is a wrongful arrest and justice should be served. Although this doesn't diminish the hundreds of other legal arrests of OWS individuals that did violate laws and merited being arrested. You have a right to protest, but there are also other laws and ordinances that must be respected.

Then again, the illegal actions of some don't equate with the sentiment of the majority.
 
I always appreciate the awakening of those americans.....
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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This is just a small victory. Maybe the NYPD were just out to knock those "Un-American hippie heads"? Who knows. But just a small victory.

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Response? [/LEFT]
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I hope the financial settlement is large enough to teach a lesson to NYC. The videos showed this to be wrong from Day 1, and nothing was done. The police have been too heavyhanded with protestors. Payback time.
 
DaveFagan said:
I hope the financial settlement is large enough to teach a lesson to NYC. The videos showed this to be wrong from Day 1, and nothing was done. The police have been too heavyhanded with protestors. Payback time.
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So you want to punish the taxpayers of nyc. Guess that is one way to redistribute the wealth. :mrgreen:
 
My hope.... The NYPD gets out of the way next time and lets NYC traffic do what the National Guard should have been allowed to do last year..... See how much these worthless sacks of **** are actually willing to bleed for their cause.
 
Tigger said:
My hope.... The NYPD gets out of the way next time and lets NYC traffic do what the National Guard should have been allowed to do last year..... See how much these worthless sacks of **** are actually willing to bleed for their cause.
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That's disgusting. Are you advocating shooting them down for breaking laws like this?
 
digsbe said:
That's disgusting. Are you advocating shooting them down for breaking laws like this?
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No. In this case I'm advocating running them down. In terms of the NG I had advocated bayoneting. They aren't worth the cost of the bullets necessary to shoot them.
 
Tigger said:
No. In this case I'm advocating running them down. In terms of the NG I had advocated bayoneting. They aren't worth the cost of the bullets necessary to shoot them.
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It is obvious that you don't agree with that ol' saw, "liberty and justice for all." You must be a republican.
 
DaveFagan said:
I hope the financial settlement is large enough to teach a lesson to NYC. The videos showed this to be wrong from Day 1, and nothing was done. The police have been too heavyhanded with protestors. Payback time.
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you do realize the "financial settlement" means nothing to the NYPD. it's not their money it's the taxpayers (ows's) money. so the larger it is the more the taxpayers have to pay not the NYPD right?
 
Tigger said:
My hope.... The NYPD gets out of the way next time and lets NYC traffic do what the National Guard should have been allowed to do last year..... See how much these worthless sacks of **** are actually willing to bleed for their cause.
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WOW! you never got past the 1960's huh?
 
majora$$hole said:
you do realize the "financial settlement" means nothing to the NYPD. it's not their money it's the taxpayers (ows's) money. so the larger it is the more the taxpayers have to pay not the NYPD right?
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I do understand and perhaps the 99% will realize that they are paying for Bloomberg's Police, the 1%, and do what the 99% should do and initiate some change. A little 99% pain in the wallet might be effective here. Reaction! Maybe?
 
multiple times as the movement grew.“A reasonable officer in the noisy environment defendants occupied would have known that a single bull horn could not reasonably communicate a message to 700 demonstrators,” wrote Jed S Rakoff of the federal district court in Manhattan, in his decision. Rakoff added that protesters “might infer permission to enter the vehicular roadway from the fact that officers, without offering further warnings, proceeded ahead of and alongside plaintiffs onto that roadway”.
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What a pathetic decision.

It was the protestors responsibility to listen to the bullhorn. Singular or not.
Nor do Officers have to repeatedly give warnings. The protestors should have listened the first time.

I hope this is appealed, any class action stayed until, and overturned.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
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This is just a small victory. Maybe the NYPD were just out to knock those "Un-American hippie heads"? Who knows. But just a small victory.

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Well we'll see if anything happens to the police departments which unlawfully arrested these citizens. Likely not, but it's NYC so it's not like it's a shining example of freedom and liberty anyway. We should take the Statue of Liberty away from them.
 
The sad thing is that OWS in no way shape or for represents the 99% they are the 1% extremists.
 
DaveFagan said:
It is obvious that you don't agree with that ol' saw, "liberty and justice for all." You must be a republican.
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Nope. The Republicans aren't far enought Right for my tastes.

majora$$hole said:
WOW! you never got past the 1960's huh?
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More the 1950's that I never got past. In my mind the 1960's should never have been alowed to happen.
 
Can the judge show me where the 1st amendment says you have the right to block rightful commerce by preventing individuals from getting to work on time?
 
YoungConserv said:
Can the judge show me where the 1st amendment says you have the right to block rightful commerce by preventing individuals from getting to work on time?
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Can you tell me where it says you only have the right to peaceably assemble where ever YoungConserv thinks is right?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Can you tell me where it says you only have the right to peaceably assemble where ever YoungConserv thinks is right?
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If you are intentionally blocking commerce, then it is not peaceful. It is intended to disrupt others.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Can you tell me where it says you only have the right to peaceably assemble where ever YoungConserv thinks is right?
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"Peacably Assemble" in the middle of the road I need to get down and I'll run your worthless ass over, thank you very much.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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This is just a small victory. Maybe the NYPD were just out to knock those "Un-American hippie heads"? Who knows. But just a small victory.

Thoughts?
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Response? [/LEFT]
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Not the skullduggery you want to make it out to be. It appears to be simple failure to warn due to poor police procedure. The people involved in OWS have rights and those rights are being protected.

What you have failed to mention is that the judge did not find a "pattern of misconduct" for which Bloomberg, Kelly and the City did nothing, therefore, "the ruling dismissed the mayor, the police commissioner and the City of New York as defendants in the suit, saying that there was insufficient evidence that those parties were responsible for any misconduct by the police."
Judge Allows Protesters' Suit Against Police to Proceed - NYTimes.com

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/367652-garcia-v-bloomberg.html
 
Aberration said:
If you are intentionally blocking commerce, then it is not peaceful. It is intended to disrupt others.
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Walking in the streets on a peaceful march is still peaceful.
 
I'm no fan of OWS, but they have a right to protest. If the assembly is peaceable, there's no grounds for intervention by law enforcement. If they were entrapped, which is the ruling, then I think the reparations to those wrongfully arrested should come from the pockets of the officers involved.
 
Since when do police need to warn someone before arresting them? Do they need to send it in writing, in triplicate, too?
 
Aberration said:
If you are intentionally blocking commerce, then it is not peaceful. It is intended to disrupt others.
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as long as you are not striking others, you are being peaceful. Non-violent protest and passive resistence includes blocking traffic with your passive body.
 
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