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Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

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Venezuela has its friendly Middle Eastern theocracies, we have ours.

'We'? Surely you mean 'you', don't you?

That aside, I don't much care for 'ours', either. But at least they aren't trying to kill me.
 
Maybe, but, he has his own wacked out theories...

His malady has not dampened his sense of humor or hatred for the US.

"He has even suggested that the CIA might be responsible for his cancer. "It's very difficult to explain, even with the law of probabilities, what has been happening to some of us in Latin America," Chávez in a televised speech in 2011, referring to several other Latin American leaders who had also contracted cancer. Would it be so strange that they've (the U.S. government) invented technology to spread cancer and we won't know about it for 50 years?"

http://www.cubaheadlines.com/2012/05...ry_cancer.html

So not only is he a marxist asshole, he's a paranoid marxist asshole.
 
He is asshole because he is marxist ,very nice logic..
at least he doesnt devote himself to money.:roll:

No, they two are not connected. He's a marxist and an asshole. Try to keep up.

By the way, how are things in that model of secularism - Turkey - these days? Still prosecuting piano players for blasphemy?

Turkish pianist charged with insulting Islam - Yahoo! News

Get your own act together before you start giving us suggestions as to how we should be governed.
 
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No, they two are not connected. He's a marxist and an asshole. Try to keep up.

By the way, how are things in that model of secularism - Turkey - these days? Still prosecuting piano players for blasphemy?

Turkish pianist charged with insulting Islam - Yahoo! News


he hasnt been charged but islamic miserable politicians wanted to charge him ,thats all,wiggen .again I have to say that government is supported by US government ,not by me.

this thread is not about piano player of turkey

our government is not my choice ,but mostly the choice of US.
 
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You need to keep up. He has been formally charged by a Turkish Court. And you almost had me convinced by your 'secular Turkey' bull****. In fact, it appears as though you're just another Islamic theocracy pretending to be western.

But keep giving us advice as to how we should be governed. It's highly amusing.
 
You need to keep up. He has been formally charged by a Turkish Court. And you almost had me convinced by your 'secular Turkey' bull****. In fact, it appears as though you're just another Islamic theocracy pretending to be western.

But keep giving us advice as to how we should be governed. It's highly amusing.

you need to keep up!

although that islamic and liberal! government is supported by US and 35 % of the voters,we are still a secular country ,and no attempt is enough to destroy our strong principles.that court is a toy of this party whose members are admirers of arabians..thats all.their end is soon , but you mustnt try to change the topic of the thread.
 
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LOLOL he's been voted and revoted and revoted like 8 times. Term limits have absolutely nothing to do with anything.

Chavez has also undermined the rule of law, shut down opposition media, eroded the independence of courts, and gerrymandered the hell out the country so that his party has continued to get majorities in the legislature despite not getting a majority in elections. Chavez is no Stalin or Hitler, but he has undermined democracy in the country. It doesn't matter if he's won the vote a number of times (something not hurt by him shutting down opposition media). Plenty of dictators have had popular mandates. True democracy is not just about winning votes; it is about securing the rights of all citizens.
 
you need to keep up!

although that islamic and liberal! government is supported by US and 35 % of the voters,we are still a secular country ,and no attempt is enough to destroy our strong principles.that court is a toy of this party whose members are admirers of arabians..thats all.but you mustny try to change teh topic of the thread.

Now that you have mentioned the court is a "toy of the party" in Turkey. Could you comment on the example I gave in post 45 where the judge was following the constitutional guarantees in Venezuela and Chavez had her thrown in jail and your statement "people were cared by a politician like chavez" is justified.

I will repost it below:

He also has undermined the judicial system, created an air a fear amomgst the legal profession and jailed a judge for doing her job.

"Throwing a judge in prison for doing her job and issuing a decision that upholds fundamental rights protected under both Venezuelan and international law is not something you'd expect in a functioning democracy."
Rights group says Caracas attacks judicial freedom | Reuters

"Three U.N. human rights experts on Wednesday accused President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela of creating a climate of fear within his country's legal profession with the arrest last week of a judge. The three criticized the detention of Judge Maria Lourdes Afiuni, who was seized by police Dec. 10, a day after she ordered the conditional release of banker Eligio Cedeno. "Reprisals for exercising their constitutionally guaranteed functions and creating a climate of fear among the judiciary and lawyers' profession serve no purpose except to undermine the rule of law and obstruct justice," they said in a statement."

U.N. criticizes Venezuela's President Chavez for judge's arrest - Los Angeles Times
 
Now that you have mentioned the court is a "toy of the party" in Turkey. Could you comment on the example I gave in post 45 where the judge was following the constitutional guarantees in Venezuela and Chavez had her thrown in jail and your statement "people were cared by a politician like chavez" is justified.

I will repost it below:

I understand what you mean ,but I would prefer chavez government rather than our puppet arabian government.because akp is a both fascist and globalist administration which works for global benefits instead of people's rights in turkey.chavez tries to care about his people^s benefits.
 
Having watched someone die of aggressive cancer, I wouldn't wish such a fate on anyone, regardless of what his politics may be.

If the people of Venezuela want to get rid of Chavez, then it's up to them to get rid of him. How do they/we know whether the next guy might be even more authoritarian?

and, given the way our own government is going, how long will it be before we, too, have a dictator in the WH?

(just three somewhat unrelated observations)
 
you need to keep up!

although that islamic and liberal! government is supported by US and 35 % of the voters,we are still a secular country ,and no attempt is enough to destroy our strong principles.that court is a toy of this party whose members are admirers of arabians..thats all.their end is soon , but you mustnt try to change the topic of the thread.

Then you should stop lecturing Americans on how we should run our affairs. Or, in the alternative, you could go on a Venezuealan forum and praise Chavez and criticize the U.S. without any arguments from any dissenting voices. Just don't try it the other way around.
 
I understand what you mean ,but I would prefer chavez government rather than our puppet arabian government.because akp is a both fascist and globalist administration which works for global benefits instead of people's rights in turkey.chavez tries to care about his people^s benefits.

Medusa as you pointed out this thread is not about Turkey, but, Chavez I am asking to to make a value judgement regarding this leader. His leadership seems to be a series of shell games and tricks where he seems to be for the average citizen, when in reality, he is out for his own interests.

For example, "Discrimination on political grounds has been a defining feature of the Chávez presidency. At times, the president himself has openly endorsed acts of discrimination. More generally, he has encouraged his subordinates to engage in discrimination by routinely denouncing his critics as anti-democratic conspirators and coup-mongers...Another defining feature of the Chávez presidency has been an open disregard for
the principle of separation of powers enshrined in the 1999 Constitution—and, specifically, the notion that an independent judiciary is indispensable for protecting fundamental rights. After the 2002 coup, the most damaging blow to the rule of law in Venezuela was the political takeover of the Supreme Court by Chávez and his supporters in 2004.

In the absence of credible judicial oversight, the Chávez government has engaged in often discriminatory policies that have undercut journalists’ freedom of expression, workers’ freedom of association, and civil society’s ability to promote human rights in Venezuela."
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/venezuela0908web.pdf
 
Another thread that shows how big of douches the Republican Party is. DOUCHE.
 
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Chavez has also undermined the rule of law, shut down opposition media, eroded the independence of courts, and gerrymandered the hell out the country so that his party has continued to get majorities in the legislature despite not getting a majority in elections. Chavez is no Stalin or Hitler, but he has undermined democracy in the country. It doesn't matter if he's won the vote a number of times (something not hurt by him shutting down opposition media). Plenty of dictators have had popular mandates. True democracy is not just about winning votes; it is about securing the rights of all citizens.

Trot out the same lies, even after they have been proven to be so years ago, and maybe it will stick.

That seems to be your tactic here.
 
That's great news. I hope he suffers.

Be careful what you wish for. He won't be the last person to die from cancer. Perhaps it will even strike you or a loved one. Remember, what goes around, comes around.
 
Maybe, but, he has his own wacked out theories...

His malady has not dampened his sense of humor or hatred for the US.

"He has even suggested that the CIA might be responsible for his cancer. "It's very difficult to explain, even with the law of probabilities, what has been happening to some of us in Latin America," Chávez in a televised speech in 2011, referring to several other Latin American leaders who had also contracted cancer. Would it be so strange that they've (the U.S. government) invented technology to spread cancer and we won't know about it for 50 years?"

http://www.cubaheadlines.com/2012/05...ry_cancer.html


Maybe Chavez got on Obama's hit list after calling him a clown.
 
Be careful what you wish for. He won't be the last person to die from cancer. Perhaps it will even strike you or a loved one. Remember, what goes around, comes around.
Hi everyone. Just to let you know that Texmex is spamming my PM box with threats for the past several weeks. Now he just posts that he's reporting me for my comments about Chevez's cancer. I must have really struck a nerve with him to have him spam my PM box with threats of violence and now threats that he's going to follow each of my posts here on the forum and repoirt me to the mods whenever he feels that my piosts offends him. He like Sean Penn must really like a ruthless murdering dictator.

Grow up and get a life TEX and stop spamming my pm box with threats of violence.

Is it any wonder why I don't like Liberals. They're all lunatics.
 
No politician is liked that much by any population.

Except our own FDR. Probably would of kept on going if he kept alive...
Pluse international observers have repeated over and over again: "Fair election".
 
The Evil Dictator Hugo Chavez is dead it just came over the wire. Another tyranical despot dead. Hip hip hooray!
 
is he dead??
 
Yea I'm sure it was those free and fair elections. The sooner this guy is room temp the better.

Yea the US and international community says otherwise. (NGO's of course).
http://democracychange.com/2011 FDA Electoral Fairness Report on Venezuela.pdf
https://nacla.org/node/5741
Venezuela Ranked Number One in Electoral Fairness by Foundation for Democratic Advancement | venezuelanalysis.com
Venezuelan Elections Show Democracy at Work | Common Dreams

Or you know you can keep on believing the bull**** from the US media and pundits and partisan hacks.... Take your pick...
 
The Evil Dictator Hugo Chavez is dead it just came over the wire. Another tyranical despot dead. Hip hip hooray!

I was hoping that he would suffer in pain for a year or two before dying.
 
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