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Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

1) how many people in the top one percent were actually given money

ALL of them

2) how much money has the top one percent paid in taxes vs the others

Taxes? When the government takes money from everyone else to give to them it's a damned tax...

3) how many people NOT in the top one percent benefited from the bailout

Quotes on news are putting benefits from bailouts to non 1%ers at less than 20% from every quote I've heard in the last several years.

4) where did the money come from to pay for the bailouts (the top 5% pay more federal income taxes than the bottom 95%)

What is 'more' what is 'is'... when the 10 richest in the US have more money than half of the united states.... what does it matter what taxes most Americans pay? You went to princeton before the ethics classes were enforced by law weren't you?

if you want to tax those who directly benefited from the bailout so be it but its moronic to claim everyone in the top one percent benefited.

A couple dozen thousand people... who can call up the phone and regulate the economy at their whim...? My aS s they didnt benefit from the bailout they designed... they aren't going to call you to court you can't even get why most of your wealth is taxed and they're on a damned party boat...
perhaps detatch your lips from their you know whats...


what I do know is that if the bailout came from tax dollars the top one percent paid almost 40% of those tax dollars, those in the bottom 50% less than 5%

Quote that in tax law... from a federal source... or post a video of you eating a hat on youtube..

feel free to dodder off and dodge this post...
 
more of the "the rich have more-we need to loot them more" nonsense. Why don't you read the legislative history"

I find it interesting you don't deal with the massive tax hikes you want to impose on the people who already pay massive tax amounts

its time for the rest of the country to start paying their fair share


Over 40% of the rest of the country cant pay a DIME...they either have no income...or dont make enough to live....theres not enough of us left to foot the bill for the debt THE LOOTING RICH put us in...
 
Maybe you should learn what a Ponzi scheme actually is instead of mindlessly repeating a dull-witted claim you happened to read on NewsMax one day.

why do you keep pretending what I understand? You clearly have not had the training to do that. have you ever prosecuted a ponzi scheme?


I didn't think so. stick to whining about your hatred of the rich rather than pretending to know anything about white collar crimes
 
Over 40% of the rest of the country cant pay a DIME...they either have no income...or dont make enough to live....theres not enough of us left to foot the bill for the debt THE LOOTING RICH put us in...

oh that is CRAP. more than 90% of America has cell phones, televisions, cars etc.
 
Over 40% of the rest of the country cant pay a DIME...they either have no income...or dont make enough to live....theres not enough of us left to foot the bill for the debt THE LOOTING RICH put us in...

Just because you make minimum wage doesn't mean you shouldn't have to pay taxes.
 
So, still no concession that your earlier claim of supporters of the SS Act having gone to great lengths to conceal its having been funded through taxation has been revealed to be just another completely made-up fable?

as with most of your babble that makes no sense. the people who imposed the SS scheme did not intend the forced contributions were to be used as general revenue funds
 
ALL of them



Taxes? When the government takes money from everyone else to give to them it's a damned tax...



Quotes on news are putting benefits from bailouts to non 1%ers at less than 20% from every quote I've heard in the last several years.



What is 'more' what is 'is'... when the 10 richest in the US have more money than half of the united states.... what does it matter what taxes most Americans pay? You went to princeton before the ethics classes were enforced by law weren't you?



A couple dozen thousand people... who can call up the phone and regulate the economy at their whim...? My aS s they didnt benefit from the bailout they designed... they aren't going to call you to court you can't even get why most of your wealth is taxed and they're on a damned party boat...
perhaps detatch your lips from their you know whats...




Quote that in tax law... from a federal source... or post a video of you eating a hat on youtube..

feel free to dodder off and dodge this post...


GIVEN money? are you one of those people who think that all money belongs to the government and a tax cut is giving those who pay taxes money.

your hysterical hissy fit on this issue is amusing

and you demanding I prove that the top one percent pays almost 40% of the federal income tax is nothing more than dilatory idiocy that is a fact that is beyond any dispute
 
IF the bailout came from tax dollars? Are you admitting here that you don't actually know how the bailouts worked or where the money came from?

its a rhetorical question-Look it up
 
why do you keep pretending what I understand? You clearly have not had the training to do that. have you ever prosecuted a ponzi scheme?
I didn't think so. stick to whining about your hatred of the rich rather than pretending to know anything about white collar crimes
So far as I've been able to discern in an intermittent four months here, you are not an expert on anything. A person who believes Social Security to be a Ponzi scheme would not in thousands of years be entrusted with prosecutiing one. You are insulting the very legal profession that you are not at all a part of.
 
Just because you make minimum wage doesn't mean you shouldn't have to pay taxes.
The average income of the bottom 20% of earners is about $15,500. A full year (52 40-hour weeks) at minimum wage gets you $15.080. The bottom 20% pays about 16% of its income in taxes.
 
Don't hate the playah, hate the game.

It's the tax code that's got too many loopholes and escape hatches.
 
as with most of your babble that makes no sense. the people who imposed the SS scheme did not intend the forced contributions were to be used as general revenue funds
As was explained earlier, they are not now and never have been used as general revenue funds. Next...
 
GIVEN money? are you one of those people who think that all money belongs to the government and a tax cut is giving those who pay taxes money.

Uhh... when it's redistributed from the majority of the country to the license of a tiny minority of financiers... nothing... nothing... it's lost on you...

your hysterical hissy fit on this issue is amusing

No reform today is a pipe-bomb tommorrow...

and you demanding I prove that the top one percent pays almost 40% of the federal income tax is nothing more than dilatory idiocy that is a fact that is beyond any dispute

Yet the 10 richest have more wealth than the bottom 50% of americans... I don't need you to prove anything...

find your tax loophole so you can relax...
 
So far as I've been able to discern in an intermittent four months here, you are not an expert on anything. A person who believes Social Security to be a Ponzi scheme would not in thousands of years be entrusted with prosecutiing one. You are insulting the very legal profession that you are not at all a part of.


what I have figured out is that you constantly pretend those you disagree with are "stupid" "uneducated" etc.

You are just making stuff up because that is all you have.
 
So far as I've been able to discern in an intermittent four months here, you are not an expert on anything. A person who believes Social Security to be a Ponzi scheme would not in thousands of years be entrusted with prosecutiing one. You are insulting the very legal profession that you are not at all a part of.

Wait, wait, now...

he's spoken like a lawyer to me once...

perhaps lighting struck him as he typed...
 
The average income of the bottom 20% of earners is about $15,500. A full year (52 40-hour weeks) at minimum wage gets you $15.080. The bottom 20% pays about 16% of its income in taxes.

and where do they get that money

how much do they use in government services on the average

minimum wage is something most people get out of the way by the time they are out of school

do you have a duty to pay for what you use? or do you demand that others pay more for what you want?


Did it ever occur to you that if most people did not have artificially low income taxes because the rich have high income taxes, they might be less likely to demand more government?
 
As was explained earlier, they are not now and never have been used as general revenue funds. Next...


so the FICA funds have never ever been co-mingled with other government tax revenues?
 
its a rhetorical question-Look it up
I'm familiar with rhetorical questions. From occasionally frequenting venues such as this one, I'm also familiar with weasel-words and their use by intellectual wannabes in an attempt to camouflage their own very serious deficits and shortcomings.
 
I'm familiar with rhetorical questions. From occasionally frequenting venues such as this one, I'm also familiar with weasel-words and their use by intellectual wannabes in an attempt to camouflage their own very serious deficits and shortcomings.

this is called projection
 
Don't hate the playah, hate the game. It's the tax code that's got too many loopholes and escape hatches.
Yada, yada. The tax code is complicated because the economy is complicated. What do you care in the tax code comprises 65,000 pages if only 20 of them apply to you?
 
Uhh... when it's redistributed from the majority of the country to the license of a tiny minority of financiers... nothing... nothing... it's lost on you...



No reform today is a pipe-bomb tommorrow...



Yet the 10 richest have more wealth than the bottom 50% of americans... I don't need you to prove anything...

find your tax loophole so you can relax...

so you admit that the top one percent pay almost 40% of the income tax YET THEY ONLY MAKE 22% of the income. We are dealing with INCOME taxes not wealth taxes. You do understand the difference or is that too much to ask?
 
No need to pretend in most cases.


Odd that you are able to refute so pitifully little of it then.

your posts do not indicate you are smarter than most of the people on this board.
however your posts clearly pretend that you are
 
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