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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

MKULTRABOY said:
But the bible was edited by the catholic church... are you sure you want to read it?
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Which Bible?

It wasn't edited by the Catholic Church unless you are claiming that choosing which books were divinely inspired and including them is editing.
 
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Wake said:
How is it not a sin in your opinion? I think if something is forbidden, or an abomination, that might qualify as sin.
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First, it's not a commandment. Second, it's listed in Leviticus which basically codified Mosaic law. These were ordinances...and just like eating shellfish is not a sin, neither is laying with a man as with a woman.
 
mac said:
Which Bible?

It wasn't edited by the Catholic Church unless you are claiming that choosing which books were divinely inspired and including them is editing.
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That's a fair working description of editing. The men chose which parts to put in and which parts to leave out, though in this case, it wasn't choices made for clarity or even internal consistency, but on the basis of their personal whims and preferences dressed up as divine intervention.
 
Manc Skipper said:
That's a fair working description of editing. The men chose which parts to put in and which parts to leave out, though in this case, it wasn't choices made for clarity or even internal consistency, but on the basis of their personal whims and preferences dressed up as divine intervention.
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HAve you ever looked into why they included the ones they did? From your post, you haven't. Btw, the books that were excluded are still revered by the Catholic church, much in the same way other scholarly, but not divinely, written works are. Are you aware of the Apocrypha?
 
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How does a committee decide what a man wrote, what a man inspired by god wrote, or what a man inspired by shrooms wrote?
 
Manc Skipper said:
How does a committee decide what a man wrote, what a man inspired by god wrote, or what a man inspired by shrooms wrote?
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In addition, why should we trust the decisions of a committee of men we have not met and lived in an entirely different time?
 
ThePlayDrive said:
In addition, why should we trust the decisions of a committee of men we have not met and lived in an entirely different time?
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Are you referring to the Bible or the Constitution?
 
Manc Skipper said:
How does a committee decide what a man wrote, what a man inspired by god wrote, or what a man inspired by shrooms wrote?
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By studying the words written. Their determinations were based on examining the texts and determining what was divinely inspired and what wasn't. The best modern parallel is the difference between primary and secondary sources. Read about it yourself. I highly doubt you'll take anything I say about it onboard.
 
mac said:
Which Bible?

It wasn't edited by the Catholic Church unless you are claiming that choosing which books were divinely inspired and including them is editing.
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Yes, that is the very definition of editing.
 
X Factor said:
Are you referring to the Bible or the Constitution?
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Both could apply.

Both were authored by men--perhaps inspired by a higher power, that many in the WESTERN world choose to call God. Other parts of the world have different names and different traditions. Most of those traditions predate Christianity.

But it's all just men with their finite minds trying to understand and define the infinite.
 
hazlnut said:
Yes, that is the very definition of editing.
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No, it isn't. The Bible is a collection of divinely inspired writings. It wouldn't make any sense to include works that were not divinely inspired.


If I were putting together a cookbook, would it makes sense to include instructions on how to rebuild a carburetor? You do know what a carburetor is, right?
 
What, like committees don't authenticate things written/created long ago all the time?

There are a quite a few historical societies and academics who would be very surprised to hear that.
 
CriticalThought said:
I love that is where you draw the line on things making sense.
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Whether or not you believe that it was divinely inspired or not is irrelevant. It is what they believed, and is why they did what they did. I love that your personal bias makes it impossible for you to see anything from any other angle other than your own.

You are very open minded...
 
mac said:
Whether or not you believe that it was divinely inspired or not is irrelevant.
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Are you being divinely inspired to tell me what is and is not relevant? Maybe I should establish a committee to decide on my behalf.
 
Harshaw said:
What, like committees don't authenticate things written/created long ago all the time?

There are a quite a few historical societies and academics who would be very surprised to hear that.
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A committee deciding what's divinely inspired is quite different than a committee deciding whether or not Ramses wrote some document, especially when the people use the former's conclusions to affect so many other people.
 
CriticalThought said:
Are you being divinely inspired to tell me what is and is not relevant? Maybe I should establish a committee to decide on my behalf.
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Maybe as soon as you stop editing my statements to fit your agenda...
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I don't know why you're lying. It's a pretty simple question.
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I don't know why you think I am lying. Actually, I completely fail to see any logic in your accusation whatsoever.

Christians believe it because they have faith in the teachings of their Church.

Because.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
A committee deciding what's divinely inspired is quite different than a committee deciding whether or not Ramses wrote some document, especially when the people use the former's conclusions to affect so many other people.
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No it isn't. They had criteria they followed, just as any other committee has.
 
mac said:
No it isn't. They had criteria they followed, just as any other committee has.
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It's actually very different for the two reasons I listed.
 
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