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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

Billy the Kid said:
No. I don't have any questions. You have questions Gimmie.

I've said over and over and over what I thought of the whole mess. The speaker was an a**wipe bully, supposedly speaking against bullying, he offended the school kids, the kids walked out and left and that was the whole story.
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Oh, kid, you have lots of questions, you just don't like the answers.

And you keep avoiding the reasons why they walked out....because again, you don't like the reason.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Oh, kid, you have lots of questions, you just don't like the answers.

And you keep avoiding the reasons why they walked out....because again, you don't like the reason.
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Why did they walk out?
 
mac said:
Most kids graduate by 17...how many of the attendees where over the age of 18?
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Oh, we already established that some were adults, and depending on the state, over the age of consent. I don't have to provide the exact number.

"we have established what you are, we are now quibbling over the price"
 
Gimmesometruth said:
How would anyone know what the students beliefs were? Isn't that the argument you have been making?
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:lamo Your kidding right? The article said the school kids were from a Christian school. Didn't you read the OP?

I could give a rat's butt if they were Christian, athiest, Muslim, Jewish, etc., the Savage guy was wrong for bullying anyone in the audience. Especially since he was supposed to be giving an anti-bullying talk. He, IMO, let his hatred for religion/Christians do his talking for him.
 
mac said:
So, basically if a Christian does it...it's abuse. If a homosexual does it...it's not abuse. That about cover it? I bet you think blacks can't be racist, too, right?
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No - wide ranging assumptions are almost always wrong. If a xian says something, it may or may not be abusive, depends on context. If a gay says or does something it may or may not be abusive, more often depends on the listener plus context.

Can "blacks" be racist? A better usage is to say, Can black people be racist? Why yes they can and I have experienced it in other countries. I grew up in a small country with a black majority population although true power still remained in the hands of those of European descent.

People, no matter their colour or religious beliefs can be assholes or they can be saints. The problem I see far too often, is found with those who will cast blame on every member of a group when only a few of the group are despicable human beings.
 
Josie said:
Why did they walk out?
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I suggest you read through the thread and find out.

(hint: The majority accept that is was because their faith was challenged)
 
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It's obvious.

The Christian kids are responsible for all the gay bullying and suicides, so they have no right to civilly leave when berated by a nasty activist. No, these Christian students are stupid and irrational, so they should just take it and say nothing. If you're gay and offended, it's A-OK to walk out, but if you're a Christian, ha, **** that. Your feelings mean nothing, 'cause it's just a book.


/sarcasm
 
Billy the Kid said:
:lamo Your kidding right? The article said the school kids were from a Christian school. Didn't you read the OP?

I could give a rat's butt if they were Christian, athiest, Muslim, Jewish, etc., the Savage guy was wrong for bullying anyone in the audience. Especially since he was supposed to be giving an anti-bullying talk. He, IMO, let his hatred for religion/Christians do his talking for him.
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Wrong - Billy. The kids attend a public high school in Sutter California.

Savage's "hatred for religion/Christians"? or his dislike of those who will claim their beliefs are based on one part of a holy text while ignoring other parts of the same book?
 
Billy the Kid said:
:lamo Your kidding right? The article said the school kids were from a Christian school. Didn't you read the OP?

I could give a rat's butt if they were Christian, athiest, Muslim, Jewish, etc., the Savage guy was wrong for bullying anyone in the audience. Especially since he was supposed to be giving an anti-bullying talk. He, IMO, let his hatred for religion/Christians do his talking for him.
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Bzzzzt....wrong.
 
Somerville said:
Vitriolic and abusive speech happens all the time in America, most often on Sundays from church pulpits. You know - one of the reasons for Dan Savage to speak at this conference was to point out how harmful such speech can be.
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Really? Does it happen in your church?
 
Somerville said:
Vitriolic and abusive speech happens all the time in America, most often on Sundays from church pulpits. You know - one of the reasons for Dan Savage to speak at this conference was to point out how harmful such speech can be.
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True dat. We can't have the evil Christian folk preaching in their churches. Dey all incitin' violence.

/sarcasm
 
Somerville said:
Wrong - Billy. The kids attend a public high school in Sutter California.

Savage's "hatred for religion/Christians"? or his dislike of those who will claim their beliefs are based on one part of a holy text while ignoring other parts of the same book?
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With the coming of Jesus Christ, the old covenant was done away with and new covenant was made between man and God. Christians don't ignore the OT, they just know that they aren't under the OT law any longer. Obviously Savage doesn't understand that or just pretends not to so he can get his snarky little insults in.
 
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Somerville said:
Vitriolic and abusive speech happens all the time in America, most often on Sundays from church pulpits. You know - one of the reasons for Dan Savage to speak at this conference was to point out how harmful such speech can be.
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Can you expound on this, please? I've never heard hate from the pulpit of any church I have attended.
 
Billy the Kid said:
I've told Gimmie over and over why the kids walked, he just doesn't like the answer. :2razz:
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That's weird, I can't find you answering that at all, I find you asking it....and then not accepting my answer.

Go ahead and show your answer, Billy.
 
Josie said:
Wow. You've convinced me that most hate speech comes from the pulpit. :roll:
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So how fair the discussion is?

Lol.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Bzzzzt....wrong.
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I don't care how many times you want to drag that smelly old red herring through the scent trail, it isn't gonna work. Savage was a bully and he was bullying the school kids. :mrgreen:
 
Josie said:
Wow. You've convinced me that most hate speech comes from the pulpit. :roll:
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Most? You asked for ANY. The point is, the christian source for hatred against homosexuals, comes from the Bible.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Oh, we already established that some were adults, and depending on the state, over the age of consent. I don't have to provide the exact number.

"we have established what you are, we are now quibbling over the price"
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How did "we" establish that any of them were over the age of 18?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Most? You asked for ANY. The point is, the christian source for hatred against homosexuals, comes from the Bible.
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Wrong. Hate for any human is no part of Scripture. People who hate gay people were hateful before they even opened the Bible.
 
Billy the Kid said:
I don't care how many times you want to drag that smelly old red herring through the scent trail, it isn't gonna work. Savage was a bully and he was bullying the school kids. :mrgreen:
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Whatever Billy, just get it straight, they were from all sorts of high schools.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
The point is, the christian source for hatred against homosexuals, comes from the Bible.
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This shows how much you don't know about the Bible.

Because of this, you've eaten your way through this discussion like a worm would an apple.
 
Somerville said:
People, no matter their colour or religious beliefs can be assholes or they can be saints. The problem I see far too often, is found with those who will cast blame on every member of a group when only a few of the group are despicable human beings.
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You mean like you've been doing with Christians?
 
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