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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

It is not repeated, ongoing, direct actions against an individual.

It was criticism of parts of the Bible and one word against a group that walked out, and he apologized for the use of the word.

Not bullying. It won't stretch that far.

bullying present participle of bul·ly
Verb:
Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.
 
you questioning my authoritaaaay?

Apparently. I mean...if you have to be Christian or an authority on Christianity in order to have any say on Christian adherence to Christianity, then it is only logical that only people who are an authority on authority have any say on the issue of authority.
 
And yet you just avoided stating or restating what the theme of the symposium was.

I'll wait.

No, don't. You have dominated this thread since its beginning, so why don't you show a little respect for others posting here and check my posts for yourself? Or do your own homework and Google for yourself "JES" or "NSPA"? Rather than "waiting" and hoping I'll waste my valuable time, why don't you just check out the facts already provided for yourself?

Why don't you do that?
 
FALSE - he called them out on their cherry-picking of scripture....

I don't beleive anyone was speaking except him, so if anyone cherry picked scripture...it was him.

Abominations = shellfish, mix threads, cutting hair, marrying out of the tribe, homosexuality...

He pointed out how stupid it is to cling to just one to justify bullying.

This is your opinion. Judging others based on your subjective opinion makes you... judgmental.

It's BULLPUCKY to use the bible as tool for modern life and sexuality issues. Use it has compass to check your compassion for others. Your UNCONDITIONAL love for others. Fine. But don't use a bible a social science textbook.

We need your permission?

Not plain and simple at all.

Indeed it is.

He challenged their beliefs. Today's coddled kids aren't used to a strong speaker getting in their face.

No he insulted them.

Many, many in the audience applauded an cheered.... it was just handful of sheep that scurried away because the LOGIC DOES NOT COMPUTE....

You talking about Hitler or Savage?
 
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No, don't. You have dominated this thread since its beginning, so why don't you show a little respect for others posting here and check my posts for yourself? Or do your own homework and Google for yourself "JES" or "NSPA"? Rather than "waiting" and hoping I'll waste my valuable time, why don't you just check out the facts already provided for yourself?

Why don't you do that?
I know what the theme was, I know what the direction of presentations were supposed to take, I am trying to find out if you did since you were making suggestions to future symposiums on how they need to pre-screen the speakers. They knew what they were getting, they defended their choice after all was said and done.
 
Apparently. I mean...if you have to be Christian or an authority on Christianity in order to have any say on Christian adherence to Christianity, then it is only logical that only people who are an authority on authority have any say on the issue of authority.

you do understand that Christianity... and every other religion , has an inherent hierarchy... correct?

one is free to dictate the terms under which they, themselves, practice religion... they are not, however, free to dictate those terms to others unless they have achieved authority within the hierarchical structure of the religion.
neither Hazlnut nor Savage are ecumenical authorities concerning Christianity ( both are rather hostile to Christianity and Christians)... their opinions on bible utilization are rather irrelevant to Christianity.. it simply doesn't matter, to others, what they say, do , or think.


as an aside, yes i'm an authority on authority.... by virtue of being a thinking man.:)
 
bullying present participle of bul·ly
Verb:
Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.
Incomplete, it is the focused, repeated harassment.

The use of "pansy" to a group is not the bullying of an individual, nor is being critical of parts of the Bible.


Bullying is an act of repeated aggressive behavior in order to intentionally hurt another person, physically or mentally. Bullying is characterized by an individual behaving in a certain way to gain power over another person.[16]
Norwegian researcher Dan Olweus defines bullying as when a person is
"exposed, repeatedly and over time, to negative actions on the part of one or more other persons." He defines negative action as "when a person intentionally inflicts injury or discomfort upon another person, through physical contact, through words or in other ways".
 
you do understand that Christianity... and every other religion , has an inherent hierarchy... correct?

one is free to dictate the terms under which they, themselves, practice religion... they are not, however, free to dictate those terms to others unless they have achieved authority within the hierarchical structure of the religion.
neither Hazlnut nor Savage are ecumenical authorities concerning Christianity ( both are rather hostile to Christianity and Christians)... their opinions on bible utilization are rather irrelevant to Christianity.. it simply doesn't matter, to others, what they say, do , or think.


as an aside, yes i'm an authority on authority.... by virtue of being a thinking man.:)

In other words, people are going to believe what they are told to believe by people they were told to believe are the true authorities for telling them what to believe.

And people wonder why Karl Marx declared religion was the opiate of the masses.
 
Incomplete, it is the focused, repeated harassment.

The use of "pansy" to a group is not the bullying of an individual, nor is being critical of parts of the Bible.

Nope, not incomplete.
 
I know what the theme was, I know what the direction of presentations were supposed to take, I am trying to find out if you did since you were making suggestions to future symposiums on how they need to pre-screen the speakers. They knew what they were getting, they defended their choice after all was said and done.

Nah, you're dissembling again. If you'd actually read my posts, you wouldn't need to "test" me or my veracity.

And this is important because you claim to be a budding journo yourself. There's no substitution for fact-finding on your own.
 
I know what the theme was, I know what the direction of presentations were supposed to take, I am trying to find out if you did since you were making suggestions to future symposiums on how they need to pre-screen the speakers. They knew what they were getting, they defended their choice after all was said and done.

ahh yes, they knew what they were getting and they defended their choice...

....which is why they (NSPA) published an apology stipulating that Savages went off topic and engaged in in appropriate and insulting behavior.

good lord:lol:
 
Nah, you're dissembling again. If you'd actually read my posts, you wouldn't need to "test" me or my veracity.

And this is important because you claim to be a budding journo yourself. There's no substitution for fact-finding on your own.
Uh..when did I say "I am a budding journalist" or anything of the sort?

If you can't back your implying that the symposium did not know what they were getting, that is fine with me.
 
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Um, Hazel or Savage or anyone else was not dictating, they are being critical of the use of the Bible in the persecution of homosexuals.
you are incorrect..... when you tell people what to do, you are trying to dictate to them.

things like " ignore parts of the bible".. or " don't use the bible for < insert purpose>".... those are not criticism or critiques.
 
you are incorrect..... when you tell people what to do, you are trying to dictate to them.

things like " ignore parts of the bible".. or " don't use the bible for < insert purpose>".... those are not criticism or critiques.

You might want to look up the definitions of "criticism" and "critique".
 
No, not incomplete....it just doesn't fit your excuses.

Bullying | Violence Prevention Works

Bullying is aggressive behavior that is intentional and that involves an imbalance of power. Most often, it is repeated over time.



I don't get why people are in disagreement over this simple thing.... bullying does not have to be recurring to be bullying ( harassment, however, does have to be recurring)

it's sort of understandable though.. folks don't want to admit that they are approving of bullying, when they are, in fact, approving of bullying.
 
No, not incomplete....it just doesn't fit your excuses.

Bullying | Violence Prevention Works

Bullying is aggressive behavior that is intentional and that involves an imbalance of power. Most often, it is repeated over time.
As I said, your original definition was incomplete.

Again, using one description of an action taken by a group against a group, is not bullying. Being critical of the Bible is not bullying.
 
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