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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

If Muslims were trying to force their doctrine on America, I'd have an issue with them. I dont see them at all trying to force their faith on others. Name one Muslim that's proposing laws to ban gay marriage.
I dont have a problem with Black people, my dad is Black...nor do I have a problem with Hispanics.. I dont see RACE trying to ban gay marriage so wtf does any of that have to do with this? I dont give two ****s if they're a liberal Christian or Conservative Christian...I have a problem with opposition to gay marriage. When "Blacks" "Hispanics" and Muslims allow their personal feelings to influence legislation, Ill have a problem with them. You get it now? I really dont give a crap if people dont like Homosexuality, they dont have to...just leave Jesus/God out of it and dont vote on or propose laws based on personal or religious feelings.

As to Obama, he, like YOU, doesn't have to like Homosexuality, but he opposes legislation that bans same sex marriage(read what I said above if you have a hard time comprehending that)and he's said that he's trying to evolve on the issue. When he votes to ban same sex marriage, Ill take issue.

And really, your opinion of liberals means nothing to me, you're a poster on a thread... I couldn't careless what you think of Liberals, all or some... :shrug: so whats your point in all that?
You seem a bit sensitive...I really shouldnt matter so much to you.
Well thank goodness we know where we stand re our 'opinions'...right? Of course...you probably MISSED the number of blacks and hispanics that voted against Gay marriage in California. Well...not so much missed it as ignored it. I love that last bit though...CLASSIC. A moron uses a conference on bullying to launch a tirade against a bunch of high school students. Like minded morons rally behind him. People like you express your hatred and bigotry towards Christians...and I seem 'sensitive'. :lamo Like I said...CLASSIC.

Oh...and as for your support of Obama...how does it feel being nothing more than a pawn and political afterthought? You have to swallow hard knowing he only 'cares' out of political expediency? :lamo
 
Well thank goodness we know where we stand re our 'opinions'...right? Of course...you probably MISSED the number of blacks and hispanics that voted against Gay marriage in California. Well...not so much missed it as ignored it. I love that last bit though...CLASSIC. A moron uses a conference on bullying to launch a tirade against a bunch of high school students. Like minded morons rally behind him. People like you express your hatred and bigotry towards Christians...and I seem 'sensitive'. :lamo Like I said...CLASSIC.

Oh...and as for your support of Obama...how does it feel being nothing more than a pawn and political afterthought? You have to swallow hard knowing he only 'cares' out of political expediency? :lamo

So I should not like my black dad because some black people voted against gay marriage? Why? I dont dislike all Christians because of the ones trying to ban gay marriage. No matter what you THINK, I've been me for 39 years and know how I feel about Christians as a whole. lol...You seem to be the one with the desire to lump people. Ive made myself and my position clear...you're trying to find an argument where there isn't one. Get off the internet and go find your wife or something, dude... you're a bit psychotic for my taste.

BTW, Im not gay, I've been married the last sixteen years and have three sons so Im not an "afterthought"... see how you THINK you know things when you REALLY dont?! :lamo

PS. Are YOU a Christian? If so you may want to pray and ask God to adjust your attitude.
 
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What's wrong with intolerance towards other people's ideas?

Nothing at all. But I think it is perfectly OK to be intolerant of people advocating violence against a group based on their ethnic or national origin, color, race, religion, or sex.

the christian kids need a nice beatdown at their highschool

if you and your little friends are making kids kill themselves something tells me you need a bat to the knee in the woods on the way home

let them immolate themselves in front of the whitehouse in washington

too bad they don't commit mass suicide or anything

they need beaten till they're ****ting blood.

That stuff is advocating violence against a religious group.
 
So I should not like my black dad because some black people voted against gay marriage? Why? I dont dislike all Christians because of the ones trying to ban gay marriage. No matter what you THINK, I've been me for 39 years and know how I feel about Christians as a whole. lol...You seem to be the one with the desire to lump people. Ive made myself and my position clear...you're trying to find an argument where there isn't one. Get off the internet and go find your wife or something, dude... you're a bit psychotic for my taste.

BTW, Im not gay, I've been married the last sixteen years and have three sons so Im not an "afterthought"... see how you THINK you know things when you REALLY dont?! :lamo

PS. Are YOU a Christian? If so you may want to pray and ask God to adjust your attitude.
Right...you advocate for a bitter angry hate filled asshole to ridicule a bunch of high school students...and I am the one that needs an attitude adjustment. :lamo

Nah...dont dislike your black dad...just speak out against ALL blacks because a large majority of them voted against gay marriage in California.
 
Right...you advocate for a bitter angry hate filled asshole to ridicule a bunch of high school students...and I am the one that needs an attitude adjustment. :lamo

Nah...dont dislike your black dad...just speak out against ALL blacks because a large majority of them voted against gay marriage in California.

LMAO I've made myself clear...are you always this slow in the upper body? Gtf over me!

And yes, you do need your attitude adjusted... aren't you supposed to be a "vessel of His Love"? You suck at it, Maynard.
 
You happen to be intelligent... but refuse to apply it to... anything.



Good Catholics are good... and Christians in the middle east are seriously legit...

Judge much?
 
As an adult you should understand the necessity of professional journalistic integrity. These were students who were learning how to be journalists.

What part of what he was saying has anything to do with journalism?
 
If my boys ever bullied someone because they were gay, or because they were Christian.....I'd be ashamed of myself as a mother.

Good on you.

Dan Savage was attacking the Hypocrisy. Simple. He didn't "bully" anyone.

Yes he did. HE called them names and bashed their beliefs.

Bottom Line: People need to live and let live. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone...and Christians shouldn't hurt others. Nor should they be hurt because of their faith. You dont have to like Homosexuality, and if that's the case then dont think about it so much...chances are, gay people are not infiltrating your life. They aren't causing your dishwasher to break, your car to stall, your dog to fart or your marriage to collapse. If your family is built on God's foundation then I would think it's strong enough to withstand two people whom you dont even know, getting married/living together.

Noone should hurt anyone. Regardless of the reason. Savage has no right to bash religious people any more than they have a right to bash his homosexuality.

I feel the same way about Christianity. People are free to believe what they so choose; however, Christians tend to filter their hate through Jesus and they should stop. It's a turn off.

That's exactly what Dan Savage was doing. Filtering his hatred through Christ.
 
Really? "Christians" do that do they? Well...thats mighty judgmental and bigoted of you. And of course...daily on this site we see Christians starting thread after thread attacking non Christians. Oh...wait...my mistake. Its the other way around. But hey...at least you didnt just prejudge millions of people.



The "journalist" had to have known these Christian kids could likely end up in his "talk". He could have given a positive message, which could have been helpful, but he chose to degrade and humiliate a group of school kids.
 
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Nothing at all. But I think it is perfectly OK to be intolerant of people advocating violence against a group based on their ethnic or national origin, color, race, religion, or sex.

big·ot

noun /ˈbigət/ 
bigots, plural

A person who is bigoted
- religious bigots


Web definitions

a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own

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big·ot

noun /ˈbigət/ 
bigots, plural

A person who is bigoted
- religious bigots


Web definitions

a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn


Im proud to be a newly outted bigot and homophobe...I can be that if I want too...its not against the law to be a bigot or homophobe unless you break laws because of it...they cant arrest you for thought or ALL straight men would be arrested for lusting and coveting they neighbors wife and such :)
Anyway its no different being a bigot or homophobe than it is to be abusive and disdainful to anyone that doesnt share you view or to be heterophobic :) We can all just be what we want to be after all....no one elses opinion counts except your own :)
 
If my boys ever bullied someone because they were gay, or because they were Christian.....I'd be ashamed of myself as a mother.

Dan Savage was attacking the Hypocrisy. Simple. He didn't "bully" anyone.

Bottom Line: People need to live and let live. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone...and Christians shouldn't hurt others. Nor should they be hurt because of their faith. You dont have to like Homosexuality, and if that's the case then dont think about it so much...chances are, gay people are not infiltrating your life. They aren't causing your dishwasher to break, your car to stall, your dog to fart or your marriage to collapse. If your family is built on God's foundation then I would think it's strong enough to withstand two people whom you dont even know, getting married/living together.

I feel the same way about Christianity. People are free to believe what they so choose; however, Christians tend to filter their hate through Jesus and they should stop. It's a turn off.



Where do you get your broad brushes? I might need one too.


This guy was there to speak on bullying. And he did; because he was the bully. I give him credit because he showed the kids how it was done properly. He was the agressor, the kids were there because their teacher took them. The kids weren't "filter"ing "their hate through" anyone. The came, they were bullied, they left. It was that simple.
 
Where do you get your broad brushes? I might need one too.


This guy was there to speak on bullying. And he did; because he was the bully. I give him credit because he showed the kids how it was done properly. He was the agressor, the kids were there because their teacher took them. The kids weren't "filter"ing "their hate through" anyone. The came, they were bullied, they left. It was that simple.

Sometimes its not worth the effort to try to reason with the unreasonable...just conform and be what they want you to be...its much easier.. proud to be a new bigot :)
 
Sometimes its not worth the effort to try to reason with the unreasonable...just conform and be what they want you to be...its much easier.. proud to be a new bigot :)


The article wasn't that difficult to understand. Half of what has been brought into the discussion is all in the minds of the poster.

I guess I'm in your bigot line too. So give me some room will ya? :mrgreen:
 
The article wasn't that difficult to understand. Half of what has been brought into the discussion is all in the minds of the poster.

I guess I'm in your bigot line too. So give me some room will ya? :mrgreen:


Billy your missing the point...THEY DONT CARE about understanding the event...they dont care about whether it was right or wrong, they dont want to discuss it...they want to be RIGHT period....they only want to make the kids out to be wrong...so their guy can be right :) worthless endeavor trying to be reasonable...To make it easier on everyone so they dont have to call me names and label me....The kids were right in my bigoted homophobic views and nuff said :)
 
LMAO I've made myself clear...are you always this slow in the upper body? Gtf over me!

And yes, you do need your attitude adjusted... aren't you supposed to be a "vessel of His Love"? You suck at it, Maynard.
Im not exactly the turn the other cheek, bow, and avoid conflict type. Sorry. Comical that you are A-OK with a snarky asshole ridiculing a bunch of high school students and using derogatory effeminate verbal harassment during a discussion AGAINST bullying, and you yourself can wade in with a similar attitude, but expect others to not respond in kind.

Oh yes...you have made yourself 'clear' alright...
 
Im not exactly the turn the other cheek, bow, and avoid conflict type. Sorry. Comical that you are A-OK with a snarky asshole ridiculing a bunch of high school students and using derogatory effeminate verbal harassment during a discussion AGAINST bullying, and you yourself can wade in with a similar attitude, but expect others to not respond in kind.

Oh yes...you have made yourself 'clear' alright...

Vancemack you are my kinda guy...heterosexually speaking of course...that was a masculine compliment :)
 
Billy your missing the point...THEY DONT CARE about understanding the event...they dont care about whether it was right or wrong, they dont want to discuss it...they want to be RIGHT period....they only want to make the kids out to be wrong...so their guy can be right :) worthless endeavor trying to be reasonable...To make it easier on everyone so they dont have to call me names and label me....The kids were right in my bigoted homophobic views and nuff said :)


Sad situation. You're so biased you'll blame kids, that did nothing and said nothing, to just win. :confused:
 
Sad situation. You're so biased you'll blame kids, that did nothing and said nothing, to just win. :confused:

Thats the battleplan...badger, abuse, intimidate because you CANNOT win on facts...its easier to be an admitted bigot and homophobe it totally and utterly disarms them and their nonesense
 
Looked like bullying to me. Did I agree with a lot of what he said? Yes. But, like assholes...everyone has an opinion, and just about all of them stink.

I'm no fan of modern christianity.


But I'm certainly not about to start bullying a bunch of kids about it.
 
Looked like bullying to me. Did I agree with a lot of what he said? Yes. But, like assholes...everyone has an opinion, and just about all of them stink.

I'm no fan of modern christianity.

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But I'm certainly not about to start bullying a bunch of kids about it.


ou do not have to be a christian to acknowledge the speaker was wrong in his confrontational presentation, his name calling, his beligerence and insulting speech....Heres the deal...everyone that has participated in this thread...KNOWS he was wrong...many of course would never admit that...they have this thing about ever being wrong.....oh well life is hard for all of us then we all die :) now who can deny that statement
 
Just me, way over here on the left by myself, but what Dan Savage did in his speech was not "bullying" under any reasonable definition. He was one guy, the invited speaker in front of a group of high school journalists, a couple thousand from what I have read - which means that only a small percentage of the audience walked out. Kind of obvious when one listens to the clip, naturally the part found on various rightie blogs, that much of the audience appreciated his words. It has been noted that Savage had a lot more to say than what is being focused on here.

I liked his question: Why do xians use some parts of the Bible as justification for their actions but not every part? The answer heard most often: Well, Jesus changed all that"

Savage has apologised for using the words pansy assed in describing the student's actions
I didn't call anyone's religion bull****. I did say that there is bull****—"untrue words or ideas"—in the Bible. That is being spun as an attack on Christianity. Which is bullshhh… which is untrue. I was not attacking the faith in which I was raised. I was attacking the argument that gay people must be discriminated against—and anti-bullying programs that address anti-gay bullying should be blocked (or exceptions should be made for bullying "motivated by faith")—because it says right there in the Bible that being gay is wrong. Yet the same people who make that claim choose to ignore what the Bible has to say about a great deal else. I did not attack Christianity. I attacked hypocrisy. My remarks can only be read as an attack on all Christians if you believe that all Christians are hypocrites. Which I don't believe.

... maybe I shouldn't have used the word bull**** in this instance. But while it may have been a regrettable word choice, my larger point stands: If believers can ignore what the Bible says about slavery, they can ignore what the Bible says about homosexuality. (The Bible also says some beautiful things that are widely ignored: "Sell what you possess and give to the poor... and come, follow me.” You better get right on that, Joel.)

My point being - how does one person "bully" a hundred people? Why are so many attacking the man for pointing out the hypocrisy of far too many who call themselves Christian? Why do some call themselves believers of an 'inerrant' Bible, that every word is the absolute truth, that each paragraph has something of value in this modern world? and then live their lives while ignoring many of the strictures, prescriptions and yes, commandments that are found in that holy text. So Dan Savage was and is correct in saying some folks are hypocrites when they attack gays and ignore other commandments.
 
Im not exactly the turn the other cheek, bow, and avoid conflict type. Sorry. Comical that you are A-OK with a snarky asshole ridiculing a bunch of high school students and using derogatory effeminate verbal harassment during a discussion AGAINST bullying, and you yourself can wade in with a similar attitude, but expect others to not respond in kind.

Oh yes...you have made yourself 'clear' alright...

I never said if Dan was wrong or right, I said he attacked the hypocrisy, that he didn't bully anyone. That doesn't mean his approach was right. My post was largely about not filtering hate thought Jesus...one line was about Dan. And really, I dont care what YOU think of ME. You're merely a poster on a thread and I have no intention of ever knowing you...my opinion is just that, an opinion. I wonder though, do you experience equal outrage when gay kids are bullied and called disgusting names (in the name of God)? Or is this one sided?


You seem less psychotic this morning....did you pray?
 
I never said if Dan was wrong or right, I said he attacked the hypocrisy, that he didn't bully anyone. That doesn't mean his approach was right. My post was largely about not filtering hate thought Jesus...one line was about Dan. And really, I dont care what YOU think of ME. You're merely a poster on a thread and I have no intention of ever knowing you...my opinion is just that, an opinion. I wonder though, do you experience equal outrage when gay kids are bullied and called disgusting names (in the name of God)? Or is this one sided?


You seem less psychotic this morning....did you pray?



To make it short we think your wrong :)...so what now...pull out the guns and duel to the death lol...
 
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