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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

How many Christians have committed suicide as a result of this "bullying?"

Ok then.

This one guy being an asshole is not in the same universe as what some of these kids go through. Get over it.
 
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You are creating a hypothetical situation and putting words into my mouth. This is the most dishonest form of debate known.

Speak for yourself.

Look at what you've posted and how you've been behaving.

You have routinely distorted what I have said.

Now either we can start from the beginning to clarify our points, or we can leave it at that.
 
That's an doctrine invented by evangelicals to justify NOT following OT when it wasn't convenient--or CHERRY PICKING one anti-gay passage and leaving the rest about selfish and mix threads also being an abomination.

The born-agains will concoct all kinds of b.s. to justify their bigotry (1950s-1960s) and homophobia (1980s-present). They read the bible, even memorize it word for word, yet they fail to understand it.


100% wrong. Evangeilicals had nothing to do with these doctrines.

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How many Christians have committed suicide as a result of this "bullying?"

Ok then.

This one guy being an asshole is not in the same universe as what some of these kids go through. Get over it.


and another person who seemingly feels that it's not bullying unless there's a suicide....what an odd trend.
 
How many Christians have committed suicide as a result of this "bullying?"

Ok then.

This one guy being an asshole is not in the same universe as what some of these kids go through. Get over it.

Gay students being bullied has no bearing on this one issue in particular. We're talking about a man named Dan Savage who, instead of being civil when discussing his points decided to instead be a disrespectful ass. When any orator is being an ass, you have the right to leave, civilly.
 
(1) You misunderstand. This comparison isn't about gays being beaten up, but about students being offended and walking out.
Oh my goodness, you are getting REALLY BAD. You left off the most important part of my comment...and made the same mistake AGAIN. If it is a COMPARISON, there must be 2 PARTS, YOU ONLY STATED ONE! If you are going into your hypothetical again, forget it, that is not what this thread is about, it is not about your imagination.

(2) You are the one who misses the point. Dan Savage's behavior was the problem. He could have gotten his message across without being an asshole.
Oh, now it is about his style...not the content. What else you got?

(3) You're deliberately ignoring my arguments. I'm talking about Christian/gay students being offended and walking out. The flaw in your comparison is that you think it's alright for gay students to walk out, yet you insult Christian students for walking out. It shows you're being unfair in this discussion.
You have again put words in my mouth, and I won't put up with it again.

(4) So do you think both gay students and Christian students can walk out, or what?
Anyone who walks away from criticism of a book they read when they are a journalist student....is probably a wimp and shouldn't be in that business.
 
Speak for yourself.

Look at what you've posted and how you've been behaving.

You have routinely distorted what I have said.

Now either we can start from the beginning to clarify our points, or we can leave it at that.
You do what you want, including putting words in my mouth and making further false claims about me, but the fact is that just because you do this does not make what you falsely claim to be true.
 
I guess we're going to leave it at that Gimme for the sake of this discussion. It'd be great if you could drop the attitude.
 
and another person who seemingly feels that it's not bullying unless there's a suicide....what an odd trend.

Agreed. There having been suicides has no bearing on the issue of bullying, imo.
 
Oh my goodness, you are getting REALLY BAD. You left off the most important part of my comment...and made the same mistake AGAIN. If it is a COMPARISON, there must be 2 PARTS, YOU ONLY STATED ONE! If you are going into your hypothetical again, forget it, that is not what this thread is about, it is not about your imagination.

Oh, now it is about his style...not the content. What else you got?

You have again put words in my mouth, and I won't put up with it again.

Anyone who walks away from criticism of a book they read when they are a journalist student....is probably a wimp and shouldn't be in that business.

yup.. the bible is just a book they read... like harry potter or hunger games... just an old meaningless book .. amirite?


why did you decide to harden your position to the point where you make discussion impossible?.... or was making discussion impossible the goal in the first place?
 
Some of you people are a crack up! Seriously! The way to address bullying is by being a verbally obnoxious dickhead to people you know nothing about and couch and excuse your moronic behavior by saying others deal with bullying so get over it!

Hey! ****heads! Be respectful! Yeah...that should do the trick.

Priceless.

:lamo
 
I guess we're going to leave it at that Gimme for the sake of this discussion. It'd be great if you could drop the attitude.
It will be great if you stop putting words into my mouth.
 
yup.. the bible is just a book they read... like harry potter or hunger games... just an old meaningless book .. amirite?


why did you decide to harden your position to the point where you make discussion impossible?.... or was making discussion impossible the goal in the first place?

Exactly, lol.

Frustrating.
 
It's all conditioning. I'll bet money that he doesn't even know why he gets so angered by the topic.

my guess is that he read " libertarian" as my lean and decide I was a nice target for his anger....that **** happens all to often on political debate sites.

how ya been buddy?... life treating ya ok?
 
yup.. the bible is just a book they read... like harry potter or hunger games... just an old meaningless book .. amirite?


why did you decide to harden your position to the point where you make discussion impossible?.... or was making discussion impossible the goal in the first place?
I am open to discussion, when it doesn't involve false equivalences and putting words into my mouth.

If you guys have nothing better to do than to write about me, I suggest you take a break.
 
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Agreed. There having been suicides has no bearing on the issue of bullying, imo.
It actually does. He's pointing out, simplistically I admit, the persecution complex of some Christians.
 
It actually does. He's pointing out, simplistically I admit, the persecution complex of some Christians.

How would you define the Christian's 'persecution complex?'
 
my guess is that he read " libertarian" as my lean and decide I was a nice target for his anger....that **** happens all to often on political debate sites.

how ya been buddy?... life treating ya ok?

Yep, I'm a free man now. Still wish I was in boots some days, but whacha gonna do? I just keep moving forward.
 
I am open to discussion, when it doesn't involve false equivalences and putting words into my mouth.

If you guys have nothing better to do than to write about me, I suggest you take a break.

suggestion noted, and dismissed.

it's not anyone else's fault you decided to purposefully downplay the importance of the bible in order to fit your argument... that's on you.
 
My take is that you are trying to prove that Savage is an "expert on bullying" because the title of the thread implies it....to you.

My take is also that you can't form a specific question for me to answer.....that I haven't answered before.......after you "thought" I was not "following along".

Go away, Billy.



Oh come now Gimme, surely a man/woman such as yourself, who wants/needs others to answer your questions, will have an answer to the thread at the ready, yes?


Was the guy a bullying the children or wasn't he?
 
Well - looking at this reasonably, here - jokes aside.

There were two issues here.

One - using foul language in a public-speaking environment of any nature.

Two - criticizing a religion and citing it for creating the problem they're there to discuss and go against.

Using one to further two - it came across off-the-mark. But is that bullying? No - I don't consider something to be bullying if it doesn't involve some sort of perpetual, constant or physical confrontation.

This - was a rant . . . he made a point that could have been made more politely, at least - I honestly think no one would have walked out if he just chose a different tactic to bring up the topic.
 
Phobia is the fear of something, and I don't see the belief that homosexuality is a sin, as some kind of fear.
Homophobia isnt actually a fear of something. It is a hatred or dislike.
 
Well - looking at this reasonably, here - jokes aside.

There were two issues here.

One - using foul language in a public-speaking environment of any nature.

Two - criticizing a religion and citing it for creating the problem they're there to discuss and go against.

Using one to further two - it came across off-the-mark. But is that bullying? No - I don't consider something to be bullying if it doesn't involve some sort of perpetual, constant or physical confrontation.

This - was a rant . . . he made a point that could have been made more politely, at least - I honestly think no one would have walked out if he just chose a different tactic to bring up the topic.

With this you've summed up my thoughts quite well. Thanks.
 
suggestion noted, and dismissed.

it's not anyone else's fault you decided to purposefully downplay the importance of the bible in order to fit your argument... that's on you.
If a journalist student can't handle criticism of the Bible, walks away from such criticism, they are a wimp and should not be a journalist.

Didn't I already say that? Yeah...I did.

Controversial subjects and speakers will be something they will face if they want to stay in that line of work, better they learn it now whether they can handle it.
 
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