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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

Your Star said:
More like not going to his website, or listening to him at all. I just don't see the point of walking out.
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Walking out IS the act of not listening to him.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Or it means it's time for the gay community to not let itself be bullied anymore.
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"Time to turn the tide" to me implies that it's time for Christians to be bullied like they were.
 
Wake said:
Great. Another hackish instance of making it seem there are mainly gay victims bullied by white Christians. It's not like it should be mentioned there are non-gay victims and non-white/Christian bullies. Nope, can't have that. You know what, let's use this as a political tool to swipe at whites and Christians and Christianity in general because we really don't give a **** about the victims, but our own political ends.
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Dan Savage is an activist for the gay community. He was addressing a specific problem - bullying against gay teens. It's weird that you think he can't address bullying against gays specifically and that he has to validate you by talking about non-gay bullying too? Do you also believe that doctors have to address all medicine when they give speeches or can they talk about their specialties?

And when did race enter this. Am I in the twilight zone?
 
Josie said:
"Time to turn the tide" to me implies that it's time for Christians to be bullied like they were.
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No, that's what you inferred. I gave you another possible inference.
 
Your Star said:
I never said it was okay, I even said in that post that it was inappropriate for the setting, I just wouldn't have walked out, and would get mad at one of my friends if they had walked out.
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That's ridiculous. Why should someone be coerced to stay and be personally attacked?
 
Christians who use their religion to deny gays the same legal recognition as everyone else get offended when they're told their beliefs are nothing more than bull****. Christian Victim Complex at its best.
 
Josie said:
Walking out IS the act of not listening to him.
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It is, I just don't get the point. Challenge him, there's so many holes in his speech, it was very hypocritical, don't walk out like a *****.
 
Fiddytree said:
That's ridiculous. Why should someone be coerced to stay and be personally attacked?
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I'm not saying they should be forced, I just personally wouldn't do it.
 
Josie said:
By the way, here's what someone on Twitter said in reply to Dan Savage's apology for the "pansy-assed" comment:

you have nothing to apologize for. the gay community has been bullied enough. Time to turn the tide. They don't like it.

Dan Savage retweeted it. I guess he agrees that it's time for Christians to take some bullying.
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Same attitude some have on here.
 
Your Star said:
It is, I just don't get the point. Challenge him, there's so many holes in his speech, it was very hypocritical, don't walk out like a *****.
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Sometimes you have to choose your battles. Standing up and yelling at him might have started a fight amongst audience members. Walking out was the mature thing to do.
 
Hatuey said:
Christians who use their religion to deny gays the same legal recognition as everyone else get offended when they're told their beliefs are nothing more than bull****. Christian Victim Complex at its best.
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Stop man...those kids werent DENYING anyone anything they were being abused by a punk AH...verbally
 
Your Star said:
I'm not saying they should be forced, I just personally wouldn't do it.
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And you would be angry at a friend for walking out on something that offended them. I really can't believe you said that, YS.
 
Your Star said:
I'm not saying they should be forced, I just personally wouldn't do it.
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Come now. You just said you would get mad at your friend had they left. Social pressure is a form of coercion.
 
Josie said:
Sometimes you have to choose your battles. Standing up and yelling at him might have started a fight amongst audience members. Walking out was the mature thing to do.
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That was not the place to challenge him or be aggressive back at him...the kids reacted perfectly...they got up and left him standing there like a tard...basically telling him to go and piss off....good on them
 
lpast said:
Stop man...those kids werent DENYING anyone anything they were being abused by a punk AH...verbally
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Lol sure. "Abused". Your victim complex is showing.
 
Hatuey said:
Lol sure. "Abused". Your victim complex is showing.
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Hatuey i like ya and i have no problem with you at all...just sometimes you talk out of the wrong end.
 
Josie said:
Sometimes you have to choose your battles. Standing up and yelling at him might have started a fight amongst audience members. Walking out was the mature thing to do.
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You know what, your probably right, I've been in the wrong in this thread. I just get mad when people who are actively oppressing me for my sexuality get mad at something like this. Like they are equatable, and it clouded my judgement. What the guy said was wrong, I don't even like the guy, and it was okay for the kids to walk out, even though I wouldn't have done such a thing myself. If anyone is at fault here it is the school for not asking for a transcript of what he was going to say.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Or it means it's time for the gay community to not let itself be bullied anymore.
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You're assuming that there is some monolithic "gay community." There is not.

Gay Conservatives Demand Dan Savage Apologize for Anti-Christian Tirade - Dan Savage - Fox Nation

First, there's a time and a place for a riff that turns into a meltdown rant, and a lecture to high school students attending a journalism conference wasn't that time or place. Of course, you can't always predict when you're going to crack up and lose your good sense and judgment, LOL.

Second, there are gay conservatives who are also people of faith, and Savage isn't helping them one darned bit by Bible-bashing and all his crap about how the Bible gets the "easiest moral question that man has ever faced wrong" and got human sexuality all wrong too. He's exacerbating the conflict that many gay Christians experience, and I resent it.
 
lpast said:
Stop man...those kids werent DENYING anyone anything they were being abused by a punk AH...verbally
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Their views, their belief system, was being challenged. You guys can handle that...yes? Oh snap....apparently not.
 
Hatuey said:
Christians who use their religion to deny gays the same legal recognition as everyone else get offended when they're told their beliefs are nothing more than bull****. Christian Victim Complex at its best.
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Yea, the best way to stop bullying against gays is to attack the beliefs of all Christians and by calling them names.
I see this as building bridges and changing minds..... :doh
 
Your Star said:
You know what, your probably right, I've been in the wrong in this thread. I just get mad when people who are actively oppressing me for my sexuality get mad at something like this. Like they are equatable, and it clouded my judgement. What the guy said was wrong, I don't even like the guy, and it was okay for the kids to walk out, even though I wouldn't have done such a thing myself. If anyone is at fault here it is the school for not asking for a transcript of what he was going to say.
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What a total cave, you just lost a lot of respect.

You have nothing to stand on when and if someone in the future puts you down because of their "christian" beliefs.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Their views, their belief system, was being challenged. You guys can handle that...yes? Oh snap....apparently not.
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Nope wrong...had nothing to do with the speaker speaking his mind about what he believed....had EVERYTHING to do about the confrontational sarcastic insulting way he was doing it.....can you possibly grasp that and try to be honest...that the clown was wrong...and that NO ONE has to listen or take his snotty chit...sheesh
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Yea, the best way to stop bullying against gays is to attack the beliefs of all Christians and by calling them names.
I see this as building bridges and changing minds..... :doh
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The point is not to change minds. I could honestly care less whether Christians like gays or not. The point is: EQUALITY. The point of the civil rights movement wasn't to make racists change their minds, it was to be legally recognized the same as everyone else.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Yea, the best way to stop bullying against gays is to attack the beliefs of all Christians and by calling them names.
I see this as building bridges and changing minds..... :doh
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If a "christian" is a hypocrite, you should not say they are?
 
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