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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

I do care, very, very much, if you hurt kids.

How about some tough love?

"Hey kid, your pastor has been lying to you. The bible really doesn't say that. Take a college level comparative religions class and open your eyes."
 
Your saying "I do care, very, very much, if you hurt kids" and my saying that Savage feels the same and pointing out it is the most basic part of his message is not changing the subject.



Funny I just logged back on and here you are.


IF and that's a big IF, he had cared about school kids and not his own personal agenda, he wouldn't have called the names. Nor would he have mocked their beliefs.

But I will agree with you he taught them all a valuable lesson. I'm sure they'll remember him the rest of their lives.
 
No, he is not, he pointed out that people who are bullying and using the Bible to justify it are hypocrites....you righties are saying he is a hypocrite too.....so no, he is not the "only one".

Yes he was. He had the mic and he was ridiculing people in the audience. They simply got up an left. Turned the other cheek, so to speak.
 
How about some tough love?

"Hey kid, your pastor has been lying to you. The bible really doesn't say that. Take a college level comparative religions class and open your eyes."



Hey, you can do that anytime you want to do it.

Hell, this coming Sunday, pick a chruch and walk in and say exactly what you posted to everyone in the building.
 
Yes he was. He had the mic and he was ridiculing people in the audience.


You must be watching a different video. He never did that in video in the OP.


They simply got up an left. Turned the other cheek, so to speak.

No, they ran away rather than confront their own insecurities about homosexuality by questioning the biblical false justification.

They were sheep, running in fear. Fear of intelligence and critical thinking.
 
Funny I just logged back on and here you are.


IF and that's a big IF, he had cared about school kids and not his own personal agenda, he wouldn't have called the names. Nor would he have mocked their beliefs.

But I will agree with you he taught them all a valuable lesson. I'm sure they'll remember him the rest of their lives.
You consistently prove that you have absolutely no clue to what his base message was or is.
 
Hey, you can do that anytime you want to do it.

Hell, this coming Sunday, pick a chruch and walk in and say exactly what you posted to everyone in the building.
Now you are encouraging rude behavior in an inappropriate setting.

The appropriate setting could be a journalism symposium.
 
Hey, you can do that anytime you want to do it.

Hell, this coming Sunday, pick a chruch and walk in and say exactly what you posted to everyone in the building.

My daughter's taking first communion tomorrow. Her uncle is gay and we all love and accept him.

Walking into a church and speaking would be rude. Just like walking out on a speaker because what he's saying challenges your beliefs. Sit back down and listen. Then think about it.

How do you expect to expand your mind if you can't think outside your own little sheltered world?

I'd bet you 50 bucks the majority of the walk-outs are not college bound. Good college profs challenge the class constantly.
 
You must be watching a different video. He never did that in video in the OP.

Of course he did...and which one of the "targets" was "fag-bashing"?


No, they ran away rather than confront their own insecurities about homosexuality by questioning the biblical false justification.

No, they got up and left. They were most likely kids who believed in Christianity who had never done anything negative to a homosexual in their life. They were obviously not violent, hateful people...that's why they reacted so peacefully.

They were sheep, running in fear. Fear of intelligence and critical thinking.

No, they were quite brave, which is why they left peacefully without resorting to any kind of violence...verbal or physical.
 
You consistently prove that you have absolutely no clue to what his base message was or is.

Contrary your consistency shows you dont have a shred of honesty in you...and you dont have the courage to admit the clown was wrong in any way...thats why I just stopped talking to you...Billy the kid is 100% right.
 
Walking into a church and speaking would be rude. Just like walking out on a speaker because what he's saying challenges your beliefs. Sit back down and listen. Then think about it.

And if he had said "All black people and jews are less than human" Would you have sat and listened to him challenge your views, or would you have gotten up and left?
 
And if he had said "All black people and jews are less than human" Would you have sat and listened to him challenge your views, or would you have gotten up and left?

Absolutely not they wouldnt that would be <gasp> Blasphemus and Racist...but christians..bah they deserve all the crap you can throw at them..
 
You consistently prove that you have absolutely no clue to what his base message was or is.



No Gimmie. What I do is "consistenly" not follow the herring trail you lay out.


If you have any doubts as to what the thread is about, go back to the original OP and read the article.


Thanks.
 
I'd bet you 50 bucks the majority of the walk-outs are not college bound. Good college profs challenge the class constantly.

Working on second Masters and have only met one that wasn't a walking cliche...Park your pseudo-elitism elsewhere.
 
My daughter's taking first communion tomorrow. Her uncle is gay and we all love and accept him.

Walking into a church and speaking would be rude. Just like walking out on a speaker because what he's saying challenges your beliefs. Sit back down and listen. Then think about it.

How do you expect to expand your mind if you can't think outside your own little sheltered world?

I'd bet you 50 bucks the majority of the walk-outs are not college bound. Good college profs challenge the class constantly.



Oh I get it. It's okay to take school students, who came with their teacher to a conference on bullying, and lay them out for nothing.

But it's not okay to do that at your church.

Enlightening.
 
Oh I get it. It's okay to take school students, who came with their teacher to a conference on bullying, and lay them out for nothing.

But it's not okay to do that at your church.

Enlightening.

All the defense of this guy and what he did are just plain outright twofaced...its ok to do it to christians because they are Christians.....the whole thread is the same over and over...
 
Now you are encouraging rude behavior in an inappropriate setting.

The appropriate setting could be a journalism symposium.



Well it's good to know that IYO any bigoted comment can be made to any group at a "journalism symposium". Please post now or in the future and example of this happening. You can't use Christian children again. That wouldn't fly. Pick say a black group, or Jewish group, or a gay group. Get back with us with the journalists total speech, okay?
 
All the defense of this guy and what he did are just plain outright twofaced...its ok to do it to christians because they are Christians.....the whole thread is the same over and over...



Yup. Really obvious. :)
 
I wonder how many will stop reading the Economist because it printed the following:

Christians, gays and bullying
Mr Savage's apology did not stop the outrage machine. Some seem to have taken particular delight in hurling Mr Savage's epithets—bully and basher (of Christians and Christianity, rather than gays)—back at him. The American Thinker harrumphs, "Evidently, bullying is one of those things that is defined by the 'victim'." Well, yes: in fact it is. Bullying is the strong picking on the weak, not the other way around (the other way around is satire). One could make the argument that in the case of Mr Savage's speech, he was the strong one, and the high-school students were "victims", but that would be weak tea indeed. Mr Savage is one person, not a movement, and of course those students whom he gave the vapours were free to leave. Not everyone has such freedom. Gay teens, not Christian teens, kill themselves at higher rates than the general populace. Nobody calls Christianity an abomination. One blogger accused Mr Savage of "Christian-bashing" for pointing out the Bible's position on slavery. A writer for a Focus on the Family site said that "using profanity to deride the Bible...is obviously a form of bullying and name-calling." In fact it is neither: Mr Savage, however intemperate his language, was arguing, not name-calling. That is a crucial distinction, and one that too often eludes the showily devout. If the Bible is in fact the word of God it can survive a few arguments about context and application.
my emphasis
 
Well it's good to know that IYO any bigoted comment can be made to any group at a "journalism symposium". Please post now or in the future and example of this happening. You can't use Christian children again. That wouldn't fly. Pick say a black group, or Jewish group, or a gay group. Get back with us with the journalists total speech, okay?
As you say:
What I do is "consistenly" not follow the herring trail you lay out.
 
As you say:


Oh, sorry. I thought you might actually have evidence to back up your comments. All you have is - you side with Savage.

Hey that's okay, there are others that think Savage was absolutely right in dressing down those kids. Easy to give a "good talking" to a bunch of school kids. Not so easy putting your theory into practice at a like "journalist symoposium. :mrgreen:
 
My daughter's taking first communion tomorrow. Her uncle is gay and we all love and accept him.

Walking into a church and speaking would be rude. Just like walking out on a speaker because what he's saying challenges your beliefs. Sit back down and listen. Then think about it.

How do you expect to expand your mind if you can't think outside your own little sheltered world?

I'd bet you 50 bucks the majority of the walk-outs are not college bound. Good college profs challenge the class constantly.

When your beliefs are based on faith and not on science, you are unlikely to be willing to listen to anybody who challenges those beliefs. Rational debate is not possible with many religious people because facts and logic have no effect on them.
 
When your beliefs are based on faith and not on science, you are unlikely to be willing to listen to anybody who challenges those beliefs. Rational debate is not possible with many religious people because facts and logic have no effect on them.

This is due to the fact that societies version of facts and logic are not the same as a person of faith's. To us, hearing we (humans) developed from monkeys or that the world came to be from meteors running into each other is irrational. Not saying you made those claims. I'm just using them as an example. At least what we believe has a historical document backing it up.
 
Oh, sorry. I thought you might actually have evidence to back up your comments. All you have is - you side with Savage.

Hey that's okay, there are others that think Savage was absolutely right in dressing down those kids. Easy to give a "good talking" to a bunch of school kids. Not so easy putting your theory into practice at a like "journalist symoposium. :mrgreen:
There you go again, kiddy, what comment of MINE needed "backing"? So far all you have done is to ignore Savage's basic point/message and put words in my mouth.

So if you think there is something I said that I have to "back", just cut and paste in your response.
 
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