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Geraldo Rivera: Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie Is As Much Responsible As Shooter

joko104 said:
...The 911 tape shows he never mentioned race until asked to do so and asked to describe the person. Your insistence that he should have refusd to answer the dispatchers question is one of the ludicously low arguments made, but you're not the first one to make it.
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yeah, and then he chose to emphasize it, without being asked by the 911 operator.
 
Thunder said:
yeah, and then he chose to emphasize it, without being asked by the 911 operator.
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lol
That is called a clarification.
 
jet57 said:
The right-wing party line.

I did make that up: it's a parenthetical comment; in quotes as if that's what he was thinking, becasue his dad is a judge.

Zimmerman's description is exactly why he (Zimmerman) pursued Martin against the advice of the 911 operator.

Zimmerman's case is falling apart by the minute, so you're clearly in the minority, and please argue form a position of factual stength rather than knee-jerk emotion.
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Zimmerman's case is not "falling apart."

However, I will agree with you that I'm "clearly in the minority."

Not about Zimmerman though. And what I presented is what is factual. What you implied is your reasoning is false. Zimmerman described Martin without racial identity until asked. I think I'm 90% sure of that. Check the tape.
 
Thunder said:
yeah, and then he chose to emphasize it, without being asked by the 911 operator.
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More accurately, only when asked did he give racial indentity but with uncertainty. When (according to him on 911) Martin came towards Zimmerman (why did Martin do that) for which Martin's face more clear, then Zimmerman repeated but with certain that Martin was black. You're grasping.
 
joko104 said:
Zimmerman's case is not "falling apart."

However, I will agree with you that I'm "clearly in the minority."

Not about Zimmerman though. And what I presented is what is factual. What you implied is your reasoning is false. Zimmerman described Martin without racial identity until asked. I think I'm 90% sure of that. Check the tape.
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Zimmerman's case is indeed falling apart. The new police video shows that he was not injured in any way, and there are of course no medical records to back his statement that he was attacked. I therefore challenge your facts, as I don't remember you sourcing them. (I'm glad to be wrong on that, but I don't think you have).

Now, Zimmerman acted on what he clearly decided was a threat to peace and good order: a young black man in a hoodie. If you spend some time reviewing the tapes and all the other very clear evidence that tears Zimmerman's case apart, you'll quickly learn that his case is indeed a lost cause. I've presented nothing but factual data to this discussion that validates everything I've said on it.

BTW, I was very clearly in the corner of Johanis Merserly (Check the spelling), because I had direct primary source evidence that Oscar Grant was indeed a well known gang member and big drug trafficker. Grant also had no business being on public transit system with other gangsters engaging in a fight. I think what happened was a very clear accident.

I don't see an accident in the Zimmerman case at all. If it was an accident, that argument would have been made immediately; but it wasn't. Zimmerman has been clearly lying, the local police have been clearly lying and the more this goes on the more Zimmerman looks guilty of aggravated murder. And BTW, you might wonder why Fox News et al are not following the story any more; simply because their cause celeb doesn't add up anymore.
 
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Geraldo Rivera? he is still alive? LOL

his comments are asinine but this inst new for him :shrug:
 
Top Cat said:
Geraldo is a Libertarian. He is anything buy liberal. He's far more aligned to your whack job party than anything else. And of course, he works for your favorite Kool Aid Stand. Fake News.
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Easy son, you'll strain your only nerve talking like that.
 
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Excon said:
One could say the same to you.
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Don't think so I ain't on a neighborhood watch number 1, and number 2 I obey the law.
When the law says stop I stop.

What did the 911 dispatch say to Zimmerman again???:peace
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Still not sure why you are addressing this to me, but ok. :shrug:
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You are right ,waste of time reverend , trying to save you from getting tunnel vision but keep your blinders on, the world outside your blinders might cause you to go into shock.:peace
 
Thunder said:
so why do you keep talking about ME and not the thread?
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Thunder, That is what is known as "the BLAME GAME SHUFFLE " and "NOT MY FAULT DANCE" with a little distraction thrown in.
I'm surprised he hasn't told you about his greatness lol,lol,lol.:peace
 
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Thunder said:
having trouble reading my posts, huh Rev?
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Ah there it is the uhh gr,ea..lol.. . lol. sorry it's hard to say without laughing:peace
 
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HOWEVER!!! There is a however. Geraldo was wrong, because not all hoodies are the same.

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We need a new topic entitled, "hoodies are comfortable and warm, as long as the weather isn't too bad."
 
taxigirl said:
This sucks that Geraldo feel that way. He has done some really good things but people always focus on the negative. He was instrumental in getting Willowbrooke closed and even adopted one of the abused kids from there. More recently his reporting from Katrina was heartfelt and strong, he left journalistic ethics behind and expressed the anger and frustration that everyone was feeling. There are some really good clips of that on youtube.

This is just an example of him sticking his foot in his mouth....... again.
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Regardless of ones position on this event ... Geraldo's comment was one of the most inane.
 
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Goshin said:
My son, like so many in his generation, is a hoodie-wearer. I've cautioned him many times about taking the hood OFF before walking into a convenience store or any other place where his intentions might be questioned... ditto with ski masks in the wintertime.

Wearing one on the street in the rain or the cold is different.
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I ride a scooter year round for my main transportation. In the winter I frequently wear a balaclava.

Believe me... I take it off before visiting my bank.
 
presluc said:
Don't think so I ain't on a neighborhood watch number 1, and number 2 I obey the law.
When the law says stop I stop.

What did the 911 dispatch say to Zimmerman again???:peace
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Just a couple of notes here. 911 dispatchers are not always performed by law enforcement officers. I know this because while my family lived in Washington my wife dated and married a 911 dispatcher.

Second as is clear in the 911 call that has been released the dispatcher did not tell Zimmerman to not follow Trayvon. The dispatcher just said that "you don't have to do that sir". The way it was phrased it was a suggestion...not an order, so even if the dispatcher in this case is a law enforcement officer Zimmerman did not have to take the suggestion.
 
As to the OP,

I can see Rivera's point. Our local school board banned the students from wearing dark colored hoodies and black trench coats to school because they believed that those were "gang related articles of clothing". It is obvious that they do have a stigma attached to them.

Now I'm not saying that I fully agree with Rivera...I'm just saying that I see his point.
 
How many blacks are killed by blacks versus killed by all other races combined???!!! Anyone care to look those numbers up?
 
rhinefire said:
How many blacks are killed by blacks versus killed by all other races combined???!!! Anyone care to look those numbers up?
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If anyone looks them up, couldja' send 'em to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton? They seem to have had a reality break. If there's anything these clowns should be rallying against, it is that.
 
Kal'Stang said:
As to the OP,

I can see Rivera's point. Our local school board banned the students from wearing dark colored hoodies and black trench coats to school because they believed that those were "gang related articles of clothing". It is obvious that they do have a stigma attached to them.

Now I'm not saying that I fully agree with Rivera...I'm just saying that I see his point.
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I dont, I think anybody that has that stigma is the problem not the hoodie, thats a somplete joke to me.

Weird, my local school offers hoodies for spirt wear for just about every activity, athletics and academics.

I work with youth programs and sports all the time. Been a coach for many years, manly coach girls now but my players boys and girls always loved the hoodies.

Cant remember ever seeing any of my students in hoodies and thinking something negative.

Glad my school board isnt shallow and narrow minded like that, since our school colors are dark navy blue all our spirt wear would have to be banned.

Long black trench coats? I guess MAYBE depending on where your school is at as per the weather not to mention coats arent to be worn DURING school, only before and after and no one should be judged on wearing one, but hoodies NO, there is not point IMO. His comment was beyond stupid, I know you said you dont agree with him so Im not knocking you but even questioning a person for solely wearing a hoodie is beyond dumb and the person doing the questioning is the one with the problem, not the person wearing the hoodie.

as a coach I wear hoodies often especially in spring, fall, rain and windy weather LMAO. Oh yeah and every time my team travels together and its not hot so we all match.

Anybody juding the hoodie is the one with the problem and there is ZERO blame on the person wearing a hoodie, ZERO.
 
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