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Occupy 6-Month Anniversary Protest Ends With Zuccotti Park Arrests

This year will be violent as ever with riots in the streets. Occupy is going to be very very violent this year.
 
This year will be violent as ever with riots in the streets. Occupy is going to be very very violent this year.

then they will get their asses kicked, tossed in jail, and they will lose any public support they had left.
 
This year will be violent as ever with riots in the streets. Occupy is going to be very very violent this year.

If you end up being correct, I'm certain Adbusters will be overjoyed.

then they will get their asses kicked, tossed in jail, and they will lose any public support they had left.

I certainly hope you are incorrect...but ultimately it'll depend on the useful idiots. If last fall was any indication, LE will be just as careful as they were then.
 
Not my parents or their parents or their parents were anti-Capitalist. Not everyone was Leftist hippies running around holding hands and throwing flowers.

Can you show me the protests against progressive taxes in the 50's and 60's? Thanks!

The left hasn't moved further left, its the right that has moved further right.

The right is now challenging the progressive taxes accepted by both parties and found Constitutional under our rule of law for the last century.
 
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The accomplishments over the last 6 months by the Occupy movement across the country:

"Income Inequality: The 99 Percent movement refocused America’s political debate, forcing news outlets and eventually politicians to focus on rising income inequality. While debt and deficits were the primary focus of the media before the movement started, their attention after the movement began shifted to jobs, Wall Street, and unemployment. By the end of October, even Republicans were talking about income inequality, and a week later, Time Magazine devoted its cover to the topic, asking, “Can you still move up in America?”

Occupy Our Homes: The movement has drawn attention to many of the predatory, discriminatory, and fraudulent practices perpetrated by banks during the foreclosure crisis, and across the country, Occupy groups, religious leaders, and community organizations have helped homeowners prevent wrongful foreclosures on their homes. Activists in Detroit are working to save their fifth home, and similar actions have taken place in cities like Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Atlanta. The movement has drawn so much attention that local political leaders and even members of Congress have stepped in to help homeowners facing foreclosure.

Move Your Money: On Bank Transfer Day, activists helped more than 40,000 Americans move their money from large banks to credit unions, and more than 650,000 switched to credit unions last October. Religious groups have taken up the cause as well, moving $55 million before Thanksgiving. This year, a San Francisco interfaith group moved $10 million from Wells Fargo and other groups marked Lent by moving more money from Wall Street. As a result, analysts say the nation’s 10 biggest banks could lose $185 billion in customer deposits this year “due to customer defections.”

Fighting For Positive Policies: Occupy groups have pushed for positive policy outcomes at both the state and federal levels. Occupy The SEC submitted a 325-page comment letter on the Volcker Rule, a regulation to rein in big banks. Pressure from protesters forced New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to reverse his opposition to a millionaire’s tax, and activists fought Indiana Republicans’ union-busting “right-to-work” law, and have pushed big banks to stop financing destructive environmental practices like mountaintop removal mining in coal states.

Though many of the camps across the country have been disbanded, the 99 Percent Movement isn’t going away. Organizers have continued fighting at the state level, pushing back against banks on fraudulent foreclosures and other issues, and have now turned their attention to the 2012 presidential elections. Movement leaders in New York, meanwhile, are developing high-tech ways to organize protests and keep the movement going. Occupy is starting to assert a political influence, pushing multiple candidates and even running for office themselves — in both Maine and Pennsylvania, former Occupy activists are running for public office.

“It’s changed the language,” one protester told the Wall Street Journal. “It’s brought out a lot of issues that people are talking about. … And that’s the start of change.”

BeyondChron: San Francisco's Alternative Online Daily News » After Six Months, a Look at What Occupy Wall Street Has Accomplished
 
Occupy 6-Month Anniversary...

An Anniversary is ONE YEAR - NO MORE, NO LESS.

How in bloody hell did the trend of calling events months, not not exactly 1 year after an event, anniversaries even start?
 
The accomplishments over the last 6 months by the Occupy movement across the country:

"Income Inequality: The 99 Percent movement refocused America’s political debate, forcing news outlets and eventually politicians to focus on rising income inequality. While debt and deficits were the primary focus of the media before the movement started, their attention after the movement began shifted to jobs, Wall Street, and unemployment. By the end of October, even Republicans were talking about income inequality, and a week later, Time Magazine devoted its cover to the topic, asking, “Can you still move up in America?”

Occupy Our Homes: The movement has drawn attention to many of the predatory, discriminatory, and fraudulent practices perpetrated by banks during the foreclosure crisis, and across the country, Occupy groups, religious leaders, and community organizations have helped homeowners prevent wrongful foreclosures on their homes. Activists in Detroit are working to save their fifth home, and similar actions have taken place in cities like Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Atlanta. The movement has drawn so much attention that local political leaders and even members of Congress have stepped in to help homeowners facing foreclosure.

Move Your Money: On Bank Transfer Day, activists helped more than 40,000 Americans move their money from large banks to credit unions, and more than 650,000 switched to credit unions last October. Religious groups have taken up the cause as well, moving $55 million before Thanksgiving. This year, a San Francisco interfaith group moved $10 million from Wells Fargo and other groups marked Lent by moving more money from Wall Street. As a result, analysts say the nation’s 10 biggest banks could lose $185 billion in customer deposits this year “due to customer defections.”

Fighting For Positive Policies: Occupy groups have pushed for positive policy outcomes at both the state and federal levels. Occupy The SEC submitted a 325-page comment letter on the Volcker Rule, a regulation to rein in big banks. Pressure from protesters forced New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to reverse his opposition to a millionaire’s tax, and activists fought Indiana Republicans’ union-busting “right-to-work” law, and have pushed big banks to stop financing destructive environmental practices like mountaintop removal mining in coal states.

Though many of the camps across the country have been disbanded, the 99 Percent Movement isn’t going away. Organizers have continued fighting at the state level, pushing back against banks on fraudulent foreclosures and other issues, and have now turned their attention to the 2012 presidential elections. Movement leaders in New York, meanwhile, are developing high-tech ways to organize protests and keep the movement going. Occupy is starting to assert a political influence, pushing multiple candidates and even running for office themselves — in both Maine and Pennsylvania, former Occupy activists are running for public office.

“It’s changed the language,” one protester told the Wall Street Journal. “It’s brought out a lot of issues that people are talking about. … And that’s the start of change.”

BeyondChron: San Francisco's Alternative Online Daily News » After Six Months, a Look at What Occupy Wall Street Has Accomplished

If one of my project managers came at me with this bs, I'd fire him on the spot. :lamo:
 
An Anniversary is ONE YEAR - NO MORE, NO LESS.

How in bloody hell did the trend of calling events months, not not exactly 1 year after an event, anniversaries even start?

It probably has something to do with the:

"Definition of ANNIVERSARY

1: the annual recurrence of a date marking a notable event; broadly : a date that follows such an event by a specified period of time measured in units other than years <the 6-month anniversary of the accident>"

Anniversary - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
 
I worry and wonder about a movement or organization, that celebrates its "6-month" anniversary.

Are they just celebrating still being in existence?
 
I worry and wonder about a movement or organization, that celebrates its "6-month" anniversary.

Are they just celebrating still being in existence?

I once had a girlfriend...celebrated our 6-month anniversary...went to dinner in a VERY classy restaurant...had a great time. Unfortunately, we didn't quite make it to our 7-month anniversary.
 
When we take your points and narrow them down we can see just what you are trying to do here.
What am i trying to do?

Telling me that I am crazy and equating me to glenn beck is an attempt to discredit me instead of my assertions.
Your assertions are crazy.
"Oh know they have a fist it must mean they are all socialist. Oh no they have a five pointed star, that must mean its the communist red start which must mean they are communists. Its all commi propaganda"...

And trying to imply that I am stupid is more of the same ad hominem attack.
Ok

Which means that you have nothing.
Other than to point out your ludicrous claims.

Now on top of that ad hominem you added a propagandist line that is going around in the Leftist crowds.
Which line was that?
Power to the people?
Workers of the world unite?
Aint no power like the power of the people?
This is what democracy looks like?
Solidarity forever?

The idea is to get a debater to admit that they "hate" ows.
I can kinda see you already do....

After that small admission is acquired you comeback with (or just leave it implied) that the ows 'haters' hate ows because they are trying to make the 1% unaccountable. Thus making the 'hater' either a 1%'er or a useful idiot of the 1%.
No.
I dont think you are part of the "1%"...

The idea is to marginalize and mark anyone opposed to the Leftist movement as the enemy.
No i just dont think you udnerstand the movement or for some reason you are trying to point out some subliminal advisement conspiracy behind it... You know kinda how Glenn Beck freaked out because the Egyptian revolution people used the black fist as their symbol...


You may have nothing to add, but I do.
Ok, ol righteous one.


In Marxist theory the bourgeoisie is portrayed as exploiting the proletariat.
Ok

Meaning that the working class are being exploited by the Capitalist class.
Ok

Now lets apply that concept to the occupy movement.
Ok

"The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%."
This is the main concept of the occupy movement. What they have done is change proletariat to 99% and bourgeoisie to 1%. So lets see how that sounds now.
Ohhh ahhh you really have something here :lamo

"The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The proletariat that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the bourgeoisie."
:lamo

Bourgeoisie as defined by Marxism means the Capitalist class.
No ****

And the proletariat meaning the working class that works for the bourgeoisie class.
Good job!

Marxism is designed to turn the proletariat (99%) against the bourgeoisie (1%) so that the first phase can be accomplished.
What is the first phase?
Feudalism then to capitalism then to socialism then to dictator of the proletariat then to communism

That first phase is to topple Capitalism by turning the workers (who represent the largest portion of an industrial countries population. Which basic group manipulation.
After capitalism yes that is it. A violent revolution. Where the workers gain class consciousness organize and take up arms against the capitalist class. Topple society establish socialism then the dictatorship of the proletariat.. I think OWS has a long way to go. I mean they dont even have guns yet!

The idea is to get a group to blame a small section of that group for everything wrong in the world.
They are blaming them because the banks and the corporations caused the financial mess we are in. Would you say they are wrong on that point?

The group is first told that everyone is equal and deserves to have what everyone else has.
I would love to see where they say "we are all free and equal and deserve what everyone else has!"


Then the group is told that certain individuals have more than their share.
Ok.. Yes

The group then acts as an collective
No **** they are a movement

to get their share out of the individuals that were greedy.
Raise taxes? Put them on trial? Bring back Glass Stegal?

In this group mentality the concept of personal liberty does not exist.
Have you been there to the movement?


Everyone must share their wealth or the group will take it away.
What?

By creating a society that exists as an collective Marx removed what he reasoned was the largest threat to his philosophy of socialism, the individual.

Sure the camps are considered a "collective", but im pretty sure when you have a movement and everyone is camping out that is probably the smartest way to organize the structure of the camp....


Hence why the occupy movement is leaderless.
Its leaderless because decisions are made at a general assembly via direct democracy....

The idea is for the protesters to act as a group in order to take back their share from the individuals within the group that have more.
:roll:

There cannot be a leader in a Marxist movement.
So you still think the movement is Marxist because they make decisions at a general assembly, and use direct democracy?

Which brings me back to the hammer and sickle and a star.
Ok my signarture?
How does my signature deal with OWS?
See you think its a conspiracy?

You did not go any further with those symbols because you realized where I was going.
What that i believe that two workers groups should unite to make their demands?

I kept relating those symbols with the Soviet flag in order to get you to tell me what those symbols stand for.
Unity?

So you tried to just say that they stand for Socialism.
I said they stood for unity, the worker and the farmer uniting and socialism....

In part you were correct. But then you tried to move us away from the point showing that you did not want to go any further knowing where i was going.
You were not going anywhere...

The hammer and sickle and red star together are the symbol for Marxism.
Uhh i guess it could be... Many Marxists use the symbol sure... MAny people use that symbol.

SO when you are talking about Socialism you are really talking about Marxism.
Uhh no.

And Marxism defines socialism as a stage before communism.
Uhh no.
The dicatorship of the proletariat is the stage before communism

So an Marxist movement aims to take over a nation that is not Marxist by design of its Constitution.
Sure. The communist maniefsto, Das Kapital, the writing of Marx and Engels...


Now are you going to debate these facts or continue with your attempts to marginalize me? Do you really have anything to add to this conversation?
I still dont see what your point is... .
You went on to try to unconver that the OWS is Marxist because they make decisions collectivly but back in reality many organizations make decisions collectivly so does that make them all Marxist as well?
 
Hey dem, why do you support such a violent group?
 
Hey dem, why do you support such a violent group?

Most of the protesters have been non-violent.

"Rick Hampton for USA Today said the vast majority of occupy members have been nonviolent.[93] Reviewing the global movement in December 2011, Anthony Barnett said its nonviolence remained an immense strength."

Occupy movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Many of the Occupy groups across the nation are now requiring members to sign a resolution of non-violence as a response to some violent acts by anarchists, and are providing increased training in non-violence. Spring non-violence training gearing up:


NEW YORK — "Activists inspired by Occupy Wall Street are gearing up for spring training. They say they will teach thousands of people to lead nonviolent protests aimed at reinvigorating the spirit of the movement against economic inequality.

The effort, dubbed 99 Percent Spring, includes sessions in all 50 states from April 9 to 15.

"People are really suffering and feel like they've been walked over," said George Goehl, executive director of the National People's Action. "This spring, they're going to stand up and more directly expose the crisis that most Americans are facing and bring it to those who created it."

A cross-section of the country — from carpenters and stay-at-home moms to business people, students and farmers — has signed up for hundreds of sessions organized by more than 60 activist groups and the nation's largest unions.

A key issue is the power of corporations over working-class Americans, said Goehl, whose Chicago-based National People's Action represents a network of grassroots groups.

Forty companies will be targeted, with protesters showing up and trying to block annual shareholder meetings. The biggest such action is planned for the Bank of America meeting in Charlotte, N.C., a month before the Democratic National Convention starts there.

Larry Cohen, president of the Communications Workers of America, says his union will train at least 2,000 members to emulate the nonviolent methods of U.S. farm worker and civil rights activist Cesar Chavez and Indian independence leader Mohandas Gandhi."

Occupy-inspired activists prep for spring training - WSJ.com
 
Hey dem, why do you support such a violent group?

98% of the group is non violent. Sense you see some riots on TV and under the clip you see on TV it reads "OWS Riot" that must mean that all of OWS is violent and that the violence was started by them right?
The only violence i see from them is the small 2% of the group who are the black bloc anarchists who hijack the group for media attention. The only violence i see is the police beating the **** out of people for non-violently protesting.
 
I support them and have spent time with them and the only violence I witnesses was from the police and the people hired to incite violence...don't believe everything you read...




Really? Which protest? I saw zucotti and it was more like a drug and sex party not unlike a phish concert.
 
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What am i trying to do?
Not a very good at reading?


Your assertions are crazy.
Other than to point out your ludicrous claims.
more attacks zzzzzzzzz how drab.


Which line was that?
Power to the people?
Workers of the world unite?
Aint no power like the power of the people?
This is what democracy looks like?
Solidarity forever?
Seriously try reading. ANd I find it bazaar that you would give me a bunch of Leftist slogans as a retort.


I can kinda see you already do....
Lol


No.
I dont think you are part of the "1%"...
And?


N
o i just dont think you udnerstand the movement or for some reason you are trying to point out some subliminal advisement conspiracy behind it... You know kinda how Glenn Beck freaked out because the Egyptian revolution people used the black fist as their symbol...
Why do you know so much about glenn beck? I really did not know that he even talked about Egypt since I do not watch the idiot. DO you believe that you will learn something from his lies?


What is the first phase?
Feudalism then to capitalism then to socialism then to dictator of the proletariat then to communism
No I was not talking about the phases in the Communist Manifesto.


After capitalism yes that is it. A violent revolution. Where the workers gain class consciousness organize and take up arms against the capitalist class. Topple society establish socialism then the dictatorship of the proletariat.. I think OWS has a long way to go. I mean they dont even have guns yet!
They do have a long way to go dont they? Thanx for the admission to what OWS is doing.


They are blaming them because the banks and the corporations caused the financial mess we are in. Would you say they are wrong on that point?
I would say that the people guilty are the people in the wrong.


I would love to see where they say "we are all free and equal and deserve what everyone else has!"
I do not expect you to acknowledge deceit personally.


No **** they are a movement
Out of context or perhaps you really do not understand how to read?


Raise taxes? Put them on trial? Bring back Glass Stegal?
perhaps not?


Have you been there to the movement?
Where exactly would that be?


Sure the camps are considered a "collective", but im pretty sure when you have a movement and everyone is camping out that is probably the smartest way to organize the structure of the camp....
That would be your opinion.


Its leaderless because decisions are made at a general assembly via direct democracy....
WHich really does not work as exampled at all of the sites.



So you still think the movement is Marxist because they make decisions at a general assembly, and use direct democracy?
No that is just one of an long list of reasons.

Ok my signarture?
How does my signature deal with OWS?
See you think its a conspiracy?
You have assumed the position of talking for and protecting OWS you have even claimed to be a part of OWS. SO there is relevance in you having the well known symbol of Marxism in your signature.


What that i believe that two workers groups should unite to make their demands?
By definition the symbols are Marxist.


Marxism. It is very dishonest of you to claim otherwise.


I said they stood for unity, the worker and the farmer uniting and socialism....
No matter how many times that you say it, it does not change the fact that they stand for Marxism.




Uhh i guess it could be... Many Marxists use the symbol sure... MAny people use that symbol.
Yea and many groups use the swastika as well.




Uhh no.
The dicatorship of the proletariat is the stage before communism
What does socialism come after communism? I was generalizing I dont really want to spend time telling you about your system.

Sure. The communist maniefsto, Das Kapital, the writing of Marx and Engels...
Duh thats what I said.



I still dont see what your point is... .
You went on to try to unconver that the OWS is Marxist because they make decisions collectivly but back in reality many organizations make decisions collectivly so does that make them all Marxist as well?

My point is simple to understand. The occupy movement by design is an exclusively Leftist movement. And they intend on replacing our Government with their Leftist Government not just a couple policy changes. ANd I really do not care if you deny it or not. Its all out there and not only that but it so obvious that it makes you look like a fool for denying it.
Either you have your head in the sand or you are intentionally being dishonest which is it? Its just like the teabaggers that deny that they want an theocracy that they only want to fix things. No one buys it, but they keep insisting thats all that they are doing. It pathetic and childish. Like a little kid caught drinking milk out the jug with a milk mustache. All the proof is right there in plain site but the kid still denies it.
 
Not a very good at reading?
No i read fine.

more attacks zzzzzzzzz how drab.
No they are crazy. Becaues you make decisions collectivly=Marxist..



Seriously try reading.
I read fine.

ANd I find it bazaar that you would give me a bunch of Leftist slogans as a retort.
Im not giving them a retort. Im just trying to figure out what chant that was...



And what? You were the one saying i think you are the 1%....


NWhy do you know so much about glenn beck? I really did not know that he even talked about Egypt since I do not watch the idiot.
Thats funny you guys seem to use the same sort of reasoning...


DO you believe that you will learn something from his lies?
No my old room mate use to watch him all the time...



No I was not talking about the phases in the Communist Manifesto.
Well then what phases were you talking about?



They do have a long way to go dont they?
Yea. A communist society is not the end goal of the movement...

Thanx for the admission to what OWS is doing.
You no catch onto sarcasm...



I would say that the people guilty are the people in the wrong.
Who are?



I do not expect you to acknowledge deceit personally.
Well.. I guess ill be waiting where it says this...



Out of context or perhaps you really do not understand how to read?
I understand how to read quite while. Maybe you should go back and re-read...



perhaps not?
Well thats their demands...



Where exactly would that be?
Well ive been to Occupy Kansas City, and Occupy Manhattan Kansas...
Go to your local movement...



That would be your opinion.
Ok... How else would you organize a democratic movement?


WHich really does not work as exampled at all of the sites.
Explain please....




No that is just one of an long list of reasons.
Well what are the other reasons? Because they put a star and a fist in one of their posters?

You have assumed the position of talking for and protecting OWS you have even claimed to be a part of OWS. SO there is relevance in you having the well known symbol of Marxism in your signature.
What because im a socialist. I use the symbol to represent workers uniting.. There are socialists in the movement, yes.. There both left and right wing libetarians, socialists, communists, marxists, democrats, liberals, religious leaders, progressives, social democrats, anarchists, even some republicans (who consider themselves right wing libetarians like the Ron Paul types). But i dont expect you to know that because you have never been to a OWS event...



By definition the symbols are Marxist.
No. They are not. It means indsutrial workers and peasants or farmers uniting. Commis did adopt it as their symbol sure..



Marxism. It is very dishonest of you to claim otherwise.
Uhhh ok? What?
Wait are, quick question; Are Marxism and Communism the same?



No matter how many times that you say it, it does not change the fact that they stand for Marxism.
They stand for many things. It just so happened the USSR took the symbol and put it on their flag.





Yea and many groups use the swastika as well.
I can only think of 2. Fascists/Neo-Nazi groups, and the Buddhist religion





What does socialism come after communism?
Communism comes after socialism...

I was generalizing I dont really want to spend time telling you about your system.
I also generalized. And im not a communist...


Duh thats what I said.
No you said "So an Marxist movement aims to take over a nation that is not Marxist by design of its Constitution."





My point is simple to understand.
Also incredibly ignorant

The occupy movement by design is an exclusively Leftist movement.
No. The majority people who are in the movement are leftists...

And they intend on replacing our Government with their Leftist Government not just a couple policy changes.
:roll:

ANd I really do not care if you deny it or not. Its all out there and not only that but it so obvious that it makes you look like a fool for denying it.
Ok sources please. What are their goals. Please sources.....


Either you have your head in the sand or you are intentionally being dishonest which is it? Its just like the teabaggers that deny that they want an theocracy that they only want to fix things. No one buys it, but they keep insisting thats all that they are doing. It pathetic and childish. Like a little kid caught drinking milk out the jug with a milk mustache. All the proof is right there in plain site but the kid still denies it.
Please show me some sources on the OWS "final goals". With all that Marxist ****, and communist hamer and sickles.. :lamo
 
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