‘No comment’: Democrat refuses to support Holder amid resignation calls

March 12, 2012

‘No comment’: Democrat refuses to support Holder amid resignation calls

Published: 2:18 PM 03/12/2012
By Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller

Oklahoma Democratic Rep. Dan Boren won’t say if he supports Attorney General Eric Holder amid a surge in the number of House members who have demanded Holder’s resign over Operation Fast and Furious.

A spokesperson for Boren, a conservative Democrat who is a member of the Blue Dog Coalition, said the congressman had “no comment” on whether he still has confidence in Holder.

This is the first time a Democrat has openly refused to support Holder as 120 congressmen, three senators, two sitting governors and all major GOP presidential candidates demand his resignation.

Boren was one of 31 Democrats who signed a letter to President Barack Obama on June 3, 2011, asking him to direct the Justice Department and Holder to provide all information and documents related to Fast and Furious to congressional investigators.

Obama and Holder have apparently ignored the request from Boren and his colleagues, and are still withholding more than 70,000 pages of lawfully subpoenaed documents from House oversight committee chairman Darrell Issa and Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley. Holder has, however, provided the documents to the DOJ’s internal Office of the Inspector General.

The other 30 Democrats who signed that letter did not immediately respond to TheDC’s requests for comment.

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Folks are going to jail over the Fast and Furious deaths, they just don't know it yet. It's called Criminally Neglegent Manslaughter and it's very much a crime. There's a Bad Moon a Risin over the Democrat party.



If they don't take care of it anytime soon, it will consume their party like a funeral pyre.

Republicans are SO desperate for a scandal :doh....good luck in november.

Oklahoma Democrat :lamo

SypherAL said:

Republicans are SO desperate for a scandal :doh....good luck in november.

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Over 8% unemployment for the longest sustained time in the history of this country since the great depression. 19% underemployment (stimulus jobs), $4+ trillion dollars in new debt in less than 3 years, home foreclosures continuing unabated by any Obama plan, gasoline heading toward $5 a gallon driving up prices of all consumer goods, food prices hitting the stratosphere and GDP growth below 2% which means we're losing ground. I need to be wishing YOU good luck!

Prof. Peabody said:

Over 8% unemployment for the longest sustained time in the history of this country since the great depression. 19% underemployment (stimulus jobs), $4+ trillion dollars in new debt in less than 3 years, home foreclosures continuing unabated by any Obama plan, gasoline heading toward $5 a gallon driving up prices of all consumer goods, food prices hitting the stratosphere and GDP growth below 2% which means we're losing ground. I need to be wishing YOU good luck!

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All as a result, which you forgot to add, from the bush administration policies which Mitt Romney plans to take us back to. Unemployment has gradually decreased for several months now, Jobs are being added every month, economists are beginning to acknowledge significant recovery, debt increase would not be so bad if the rich would be willing to pay their fair share of taxes which mathematically is the only real way to balance out debt....and the republicans know this. The president is not responsible for gas prices...free market is...one of republicans major core beliefs. It takes time to recover from a multi-trillion dollar deficit which was undoubtedly created by the Republican party. Do you REALLY think American's are willing to return to the same policies that brought us to this point? The republican party, or should i say tea party, is holding America's government hostage because of religious ideology, Americans will throw every single bum out in November when Obama gets re-elected....THEN we can finally begin to grow economically. Don't get too upset on election night, it will be a good lesson for you.

SypherAL said:

Republicans are SO desperate for a scandal :doh....good luck in november.

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There's no desperation when people end up dead because of this blunder. This should be a bipartisan issue but as always Liberals want to turn a blind eye.

Sparky said:

There's no desperation when people end up dead because of this blunder. This should be a bipartisan issue but as always Liberals want to turn a blind eye.

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To be fair, if this had happened during the Bush administration, Republicans would have turned a blind eye.

There is no right vs wrong in Washington. Only right vs. left.

rocket88 said:

To be fair, if this had happened during the Bush administration, Republicans would have turned a blind eye.

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Hypothetically speaking of course... Since it DIDN'T happen during the Bush Administration.

rocket88 said:

There is no right vs wrong in Washington. Only right vs. left.

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And as bad as it's ever been. Yet since it did happen to Obama, what we don't see is the media hammering this and investigating - more like the media is complicit, sidelined. Hypothetically speaking, that certainly wouldn't have happened during the Bush Administration.

Ockham said:

Hypothetically speaking of course... Since it DIDN'T happen during the Bush Administration.

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This didn't, but it's not like nothing bad happened during the Bush years. It's not a "bash Bush" thing, but he wasn't perfect. Republicans routinely wanted to gloss things over during that time.

And as bad as it's ever been. Yet since it did happen to Obama, what we don't see is the media hammering this and investigating - more like the media is complicit, sidelined. Hypothetically speaking, that certainly wouldn't have happened during the Bush Administration.

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It is as bad as it's ever been, but why isn't Fox investigating? It's not like they love Obama. It's not the Democrats' job to do their job for them.

Bipartisanship is long gone.

rocket88 said:

This didn't, but it's not like nothing bad happened during the Bush years. It's not a "bash Bush" thing, but he wasn't perfect. Republicans routinely wanted to gloss things over during that time.

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The media didn't though ... take today: Democrats gloss over just like Republicans may have then, with the added bonus of the media glossing over. Democrats have the edge there.

rocket88 said:

It is as bad as it's ever been, but why isn't Fox investigating? It's not like they love Obama. It's not the Democrats' job to do their job for them.

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The question shouldn't be Fox specific it should be media specific. Why isn't the media, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT, NY Post, Chicago Sun Times... Mother Jones, New Republic.... etc.etc.etc... doing the investigating. Fox is one media group - granted large but insignificant when compared to the entire media field.

rocket88 said:

Bipartisanship is long gone.

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... because the Democrats, Republicans and Media want it that way... whoever has the loudest bullhorn to blame the other wins... and right now the edge goes to the Democrats with their media allies, hollywood allies, University and higher education allies, Union allies... the list is quite impressive.

I think the mood of the nation (outside of the radical right wing) can be summed up in three words

I Don't Care - YouTube

One of our biggest mistakes we make is that we make judicial appointments political ones. All the way down to county DA's, they are politically voted on or appointed. Any judicial position should be voted on independent of anything political. The AG is a cabinet position... what makes anyone think that they are going to work independently??? They cover for the POTUS and in turn, so long as that is happening, the POTUS will cover for them and allow the AG to do whatever they want.

haymarket said:

I think the mood of the nation (outside of the radical right wing) can be summed up in three words

I Don't Care - YouTube

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You thought wrong because this independent does care that innocent people died because of this blunder and I thinks the Liberals are dispicable for their lack of compassion. All they care about is partisan power at any costs.

Sparky said:

You thought wrong because this independent does care that innocent people died because of this blunder and I thinks the Liberals are dispicable for their lack of compassion. All they care about is partisan power at any costs.

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I see no evidence of any national outcry over this.

Ockham said:

The media didn't though ... take today: Democrats gloss over just like Republicans may have then, with the added bonus of the media glossing over. Democrats have the edge there.

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Sorry to disappoint you, but my expectations of the media is that I expect them to be almost as biased as the parties. I don't expect liberal outlets to be a watchdog to liberals, that's what conservative outlets are for. I know that there's more liberal outlets, but we have a free press and a free market. Conservatives who don't like it can start their own media, as was done with Fox.

The question shouldn't be Fox specific it should be media specific. Why isn't the media, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT, NY Post, Chicago Sun Times... Mother Jones, New Republic.... etc.etc.etc... doing the investigating. Fox is one media group - granted large but insignificant when compared to the entire media field.

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Why do you expect them to be unbiased? It never has been that way, and likely never will. I picked on Fox only because they were the conservative outlet that came to mind first. Again, free press & free market. If conservatives don't like it, there's plenty of opportunity for them to get into the market. Frankly, I think that biased is exactly the way the founders knew it would happen, which is why they put in the First Amendment.

... because the Democrats, Republicans and Media want it that way... whoever has the loudest bullhorn to blame the other wins... and right now the edge goes to the Democrats with their media allies, hollywood allies, University and higher education allies, Union allies... the list is quite impressive.

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Boo hoo, everybody's against you. To hear you guys talk it's amazing a Republican ever gets elected to anything, yet somehow you manage to get just about every other President. In fact the last time a President served out his 8 years and handed over power to someone else in his own party, they were both Republicans.

rocket88 said:

Sorry to disappoint you, but my expectations of the media is that I expect them to be almost as biased as the parties.

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And that's sad. Having an independent and primarily unbiased media is a benefit to all. Having a biased and slanted media proves the rot that has infected our country.

rocket88 said:

Why do you expect them to be unbiased? It never has been that way, and likely never will.

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Nothing is 100% - I however do expect journalists to go where the story takes them no matter their own bias. It's not bad expectation - Principles of Journalism | Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ) . I do expect Journalism to have principles and ethics. What you're basically saying is they don't, you expect to be lied to now not only by politicians but by the media that covers them. So why watch? Why read? Why believe anything?

rocket88 said:

I picked on Fox only because they were the conservative outlet that came to mind first.

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Well, they are the largest and one of the only as well.... If I had asked you to name the top 5 conservative media channels... you'd have to look them up.

rocket88 said:

Again, free press & free market. If conservatives don't like it, there's plenty of opportunity for them to get into the market. Frankly, I think that biased is exactly the way the founders knew it would happen, which is why they put in the First Amendment.

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Good point - It used to be that media groups sold papers, magazines, or garnered viewers by providing stories that interested people. What's occurred in the past 20 years or so is media now panders to specific types of viewers. They don't want to cover a story that their viewers won't like. This is where I mention the "rot" again....

rocket88 said:

Boo hoo, everybody's against you. To hear you guys talk it's amazing a Republican ever gets elected to anything, yet somehow you manage to get just about every other President.

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It is amazing actually.

rocket88 said:

In fact the last time a President served out his 8 years and handed over power to someone else in his own party, they were both Republicans.

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And if I remember correctly, the boo hoo crying in 2000 and 2004 went to the extremes of lunacy. Punch card chaffe, stealing the election, manipulating voting machines, conspiracy theories about Halliburton, calls for a national recount... oh yeah... boo hoo! :lol:

Ockham said:

It is amazing actually. And if I remember correctly, the boo hoo crying in 2000 and 2004 went to the extremes of lunacy. Punch card chaffe, stealing the election, manipulating voting machines, conspiracy theories about Halliburton, calls for a national recount... oh yeah... boo hoo! :lol:

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None of which I ever engaged in. If you ask me there was probably enough skullduggery on both sides in Florida in 2000 that the only correct ruling would have been "**** it. You both cheated big time. Pat Buchanan gets the electors and we'll throw it to the House." Would have resulted in the same outcome most likely, but still...

rocket88 said:

None of which I ever engaged in.

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That's good you didn't engage in it, but it still happened.

rocket88 said:

If you ask me there was probably enough skullduggery on both sides in Florida in 2000 that the only correct ruling would have been "**** it. You both cheated big time. Pat Buchanan gets the electors and we'll throw it to the House." Would have resulted in the same outcome most likely, but still...

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No cheating was ever identified and as far as I know, there were no lawsuits or criminal charges of "skullduggery". I don't know what the House would have voted but the facts are the wailing and gnashing of teeth lunacy occurred - was ugly and lasted years. You're comment about boo hoo therefore is misappropriated. The crying victim boo hoo during what you identified as the last President who served out 8 years, was incorrect.

I have no problem calling Republicans cowards, victims, or boo hoo weenies when it's warranted and accurate.

haymarket said:

I see no evidence of any national outcry over this.

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Does there have to be? A Federal Law Enforcement Agent and 300 Mexican citizens are dead because the Holder Justice Dept allowed assault rifles to flow into Mexico even after they weren't able to track them anymore. Where is the humanity? By the way it IS a crime.

No comment does not equal refusal of support. It could mean support is there but the comment will be withheld to prevent political backlash.

Prof. Peabody said:

Folks are going to jail over the Fast and Furious deaths, they just don't know it yet. It's called Criminally Neglegent Manslaughter and it's very much a crime. There's a Bad Moon a Risin over the Democrat party.

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If they don't take care of it anytime soon, it will consume their party like a funeral pyre.

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There are no Democrats in Oklahoma - no matter what they call themselves. It's the most right wing state in the country. And the fact that a bunch of right wingers are calling for Holder to resign makes me think he must be doing something right.

Ockham said:

Hypothetically speaking of course... Since it DIDN'T happen during the Bush Administration.

And as bad as it's ever been. Yet since it did happen to Obama, what we don't see is the media hammering this and investigating - more like the media is complicit, sidelined. Hypothetically speaking, that certainly wouldn't have happened during the Bush Administration.

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No, we had the Iraq war instead. How many dead did that one rack up?