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Over 90% of the income gains in the first year of the recovery went to the top 1%

Catawba said:
"TPC found that repealing the AMT and cutting rates by 20 percent would increase the deficit by more than $3 trillion over the next 10 years, even after the 2001/2003/2010 tax cuts are extended."

Romney's Tax Plan Would Add $3T To Deficit Over A Decade - Forbes

What experts can you reference that claim the GOP deficit will be less than the presidents?
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Why did you shift the discussion from BHO's/Ryan's numbers to Romney's?

I don't need an expert to read a budget summary for me. Again, read the summaries in the BHO 2012 budget and the PTP. YOU will see the debt in 2022 is lower in the PTP than the BHO 2012 budget...
 
Catawba said:
"TPC found that repealing the AMT and cutting rates by 20 percent would increase the deficit by more than $3 trillion over the next 10 years, even after the 2001/2003/2010 tax cuts are extended."

Romney's Tax Plan Would Add $3T To Deficit Over A Decade - Forbes

"In Ryan’s “Path to Prosperity,” he proposes reducing the deficit over the next decade, but according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Ryan’s plan will add more to the deficit than if Congress maintains the status quo.

Republicans Pass Blame For Their Own Deficit Failures On To The Poor


What experts can you reference that claim the GOP deficit will be less than the presidents?
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sorry socialist propaganda sites that claim the rich don't pay enough taxes are worthless.
 
Catawba said:
"In Ryan’s “Path to Prosperity,” he proposes reducing the deficit over the next decade, but according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Ryan’s plan will add more to the deficit than if Congress maintains the status quo.
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NOWHERE in the CBO’s review of the PTP does it claim ‘add more to the deficit than if Congress maintains the status quo.’ or even suggest it…unless I missed it. Please point it out. (the charts in the CBO report appear to refute this though but it is your source).

Republicans Pass Blame For Their Own Deficit Failures On To The Poor
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A hack piece from who? And his credentials make believing him compelling how? And what makes this website similarly creditable? And this is relevant how?

What experts can you reference that claim the GOP deficit will be less than the presidents?
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ME, I can read the tables…again, give it a try.
 
Dickieboy said:
Why did you shift the discussion from BHO's/Ryan's numbers to Romney's?

I don't need an expert to read a budget summary for me. Again, read the summaries in the BHO 2012 budget and the PTP. YOU will see the debt in 2022 is lower in the PTP than the BHO 2012 budget...
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TurtleDude said:
sorry socialist propaganda sites that claim the rich don't pay enough taxes are worthless.
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Dickieboy said:
NOWHERE in the CBO’s review of the PTP does it claim ‘add more to the deficit than if Congress maintains the status quo.’ or even suggest it…unless I missed it. Please point it out. (the charts in the CBO report appear to refute this though but it is your source).



A hack piece from who? And his credentials make believing him compelling how? And what makes this website similarly creditable? And this is relevant how?



ME, I can read the tables…again, give it a try.
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That's the Tax Policy Center and the CBO vs. two unsubstantiated opinions by two anonymous internet dudes.

Thanks for playing! :2wave:
 
Catawba said:
That's the Tax Policy Center and the CBO vs. two unsubstantiated opinions by two anonymous internet dudes.

Thanks for playing! :2wave:
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I was referring to that far left propaganda site you quoted

the author isn't even important enough to have a wiki bio
 
TurtleDude said:
sorry socialist propaganda sites that claim the rich don't pay enough taxes are worthless.
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Forbes socialist? :lamo TD your at a new level!
The Washington Post socialist!? :lamo
Cmon man! Cmon!
 
TurtleDude said:
I was referring to that far left propaganda site you quoted

the author isn't even important enough to have a wiki bio
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Where is your and Dickieboy's wiki bio?


And what about the CBO saying the same thing as the Tax Policy Center?
 
Catawba said:
That's the Tax Policy Center and the CBO vs. two unsubstantiated opinions by two anonymous internet dudes.

Thanks for playing! :2wave:
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So you cannot read? Again, can you not review both summaries and see for youself? Why would you need a third party to explain debt values when they are plainly posted in each budget? CAN YOU NOT THINK FOR YOURSELF OR DOES THE COOL-AID MAKE YOU STUPID? Would I be more 'substantiated' if I posted links to the President's 2012 budget? or Ryan's PTP? I'm sure you can find them...
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Very first link: Romney's Tax Plan Would Add $3T To Deficit Over A Decade - Forbes
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Your right, thanks for pointing it out. As it was not relevant to the discussion I didn't make not of it or read it.
 
Dickieboy said:
Your right, thanks for pointing it out. As it was not relevant to the discussion I didn't make not of it or read it.
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Well still none of those links were socialist propaganda. To try to claim they were is incredibly ignorant..
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Forbes socialist? :lamo TD your at a new level!
The Washington Post socialist!? :lamo
Cmon man! Cmon!
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You don't read very well do you? I was only speaking about the BS propaganda site your fellow traveler cited. Some far left site that claims that its goal is to make the rich "pay fair share"
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Well still none of those links were socialist propaganda. To try to claim they were is incredibly ignorant..
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The Tax Policy Center is part of the brookings institute which leans left

the Tax expert (LOL) Catawba quoted in post 241 (McIntyre) is a hard core leftist who whines that the rich don't pay their fair share.


Citizens for tax justice is run by that clown and is a far far left site
 
Dickieboy said:
Again:



Did you intentionally overlook this question?
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Because the question is irrelevant, as the experts have said both their plans increase the deficit.
 
TurtleDude said:
You don't read very well do you? I was only speaking about the BS propaganda site your fellow traveler cited. Some far left site that claims that its goal is to make the rich "pay fair share"
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Which one was that TD.?
 
TurtleDude said:
The Tax Policy Center is part of the brookings institute which leans left

the Tax expert (LOL) Catawba quoted in post 241 (McIntyre) is a hard core leftist who whines that the rich don't pay their fair share.


Citizens for tax justice is run by that clown and is a far far left site
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When you mean "hard core leftist" probably means just left of conservative which means pretty much that they are democrats which are not "leftist" because they are on the right side of the political spectrum, which means they are not socialist, but just right wingers, which are all capitalists and support the "free market" which makes them defiantly not socialist...

Which Colbert once stated "the facts have a liberal bias".
 
Catawba said:
Because the question is irrelevant, as the experts have said both their plans increase the deficit.
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Why do you continue to avoid the question? The point was that the debt increase proposed in BHO's 2012 budget is greater than that proposed in Ryan's PTP. This point would be supportive to this post:

Dickieboy said:
Since the trajectory of the debt is lower in the Ryan budget than that proposed in BHO's 2011-12 budget can we thusly define his as 'Bigger Blueprint for Financial Disaster'?
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Which you have persisted in avoiding…Why is that?
 
Dickieboy said:
Why do you continue to avoid the question? The point was that the debt increase proposed in BHO's 2012 budget is greater than that proposed in Ryan's PTP. This point would be supportive to this post.

Which you have persisted in avoiding…Why is that?
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Because that is just the unsubstantiated opinion of an anonymous internet dude, dude.
 
Catawba said:
Because that is just the unsubstantiated opinion of an anonymous internet dude, dude.
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I don't get it...what part of the factual numbers in both budgets opinions?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Ahhh same **** different toilet... Reality and facts same ****... :shrug:
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Well, If you're going to quote someone it would help if you are accurate else it is a paraphrase. I'm sure if you ever say something noteworthy you will appreciate it when others quote you if they do it accurately.
 
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