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BREAKING: Dow Jones Closes Above 13,000 For The First Time Since May 2008

The only one I remember is the one that both parties agreed to prevent the collapse of the world economy.

World economy my ass. They were bailing out their buddies. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
I'm opposed to legislation which is mathematically at odds with reality.

Are you going to share with us what you think that is?

PHP:
Yeah and thanks for the "We tried to help you, but the other side shot us down" excuse. You Republocrats are great with that one.


So you have missed the legislative votes?
 
Are you going to share with us what you think that is?

Addition and subtraction ain't hard.


So you have missed the legislative votes?

Nope. Pretty sure the Republocrats didn't do a damned thing to help the rest of us out. Wall Street and the Banks got in trouble and look how fast they all passed those bills to take our money and give it to them. Look how fast. Wall Street and the Banks go theirs...look how slow the rest of us were taken care of. ****ing dumped by the curb side. Thanks for nothing.
 
World economy my ass. They were bailing out their buddies. Nothing more, nothing less.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Once the investment banks are separated from commercial banks, they we can let the investment banks fail....I'll be happy to support that.
 
Addition and subtraction ain't hard.

Evidently, I do not have the libertarian conversion factors needed to turn a positive to a negative.
 
The only one I remember is the one that both parties agreed to prevent the collapse of the world economy. If we do what the Democrats propose and once again establish the firewall between investment banks and commercial banks, we won't be put in that position in the future.

The QE programs and the similiar actions we are currently undertaking are nothing more than Wall Street welfare programs financed on the back of the middle class.

Let me reassure you, it is a very good thing.

That doesn't convince me but O.K. :mrgreen: (Not that I really expect people to disclose things like this)
 
You are entitled to your opinion.

Once the investment banks are separated from commercial banks, they we can let the investment banks fail....I'll be happy to support that.

There has been plenty of time to have done that. It hasn't been done and it never is going to happen when those 100% against it are running the country's finances.
 
Good to hear. Hopefully it lasts.
 
They had full control of the House. It's easy to introduce bills that you know you are never going to actually have to vote on.

Here are the sponsors and co-sponsors:

Sponsor

Representative
Marcy Kaptur

D-OH
View Co-Sponsors (58)

o Rep. Rodney Alexander [R, LA-5]
Added July 14, 2011
o Rep. Tammy Baldwin [D, WI-2]
Added July 25, 2011
o Rep. Roscoe Bartlett [R, MD-6]
Added May 31, 2011
o Rep. Michael Capuano [D, MA-8]
Added July 06, 2011
o Del. Donna Christensen [D, VI-0]
Added July 21, 2011
o Rep. David Cicilline [D, RI-1]
Added November 02, 2011
o Rep. Yvette Clarke [D, NY-11]
Added September 09, 2011
o Rep. Hansen Clarke [D, MI-13]
Added July 06, 2011
o Rep. William Clay [D, MO-1]
Added October 04, 2011
o Rep. Mike Coffman [R, CO-6]
Added June 22, 2011
o Rep. John Conyers [D, MI-14]
Added May 02, 2011
o Rep. Susan Davis [D, CA-53]
Added February 02, 2012
o Rep. Danny Davis [D, IL-7]
Added May 31, 2011
o Rep. Peter DeFazio [D, OR-4]
Added September 20, 2011
o Rep. Rosa DeLauro [D, CT-3]
Added September 26, 2011
o Rep. Michael Doyle [D, PA-14]
Added December 12, 2011
o Rep. Keith Ellison [D, MN-5]
Added September 22, 2011
o Rep. Bob Filner [D, CA-51]
Added July 25, 2011
o Rep. Marcia Fudge [D, OH-11]
Added May 25, 2011
o Rep. John Garamendi [D, CA-10]
Added June 03, 2011
o Rep. Al Green [D, TX-9]
Added July 21, 2011
o Rep. Raul Grijalva [D, AZ-7]
Added July 14, 2011
o Rep. Jesse Jackson [D, IL-2]
Added May 04, 2011
o Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee [D, TX-18]
Added November 03, 2011
o Rep. Henry Johnson [D, GA-4]
Added September 13, 2011
o Rep. Walter Jones [R, NC-3]
Added April 12, 2011
o Rep. Larry Kissell [D, NC-8]
Added September 07, 2011
o Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D, OH-10]
Added June 15, 2011
o Rep. Barbara Lee [D, CA-9]
Added June 22, 2011
o Rep. John Lewis [D, GA-5]
Added October 14, 2011
o Rep. Daniel Lipinski [D, IL-3]
Added July 18, 2011
o Rep. Zoe Lofgren [D, CA-16]
Added September 20, 2011
o Rep. James McDermott [D, WA-7]
Added May 11, 2011
o Rep. Michael Michaud [D, ME-2]
Added September 12, 2011
o Rep. George Miller [D, CA-7]
Added June 24, 2011
o Rep. James Moran [D, VA-8]
Added April 12, 2011
o Rep. John Olver [D, MA-1]
Added September 07, 2011
o Rep. Frank Pallone [D, NJ-6]
Added November 17, 2011
o Rep. Donald Payne [D, NJ-10]
Added November 14, 2011
o Rep. Collin Peterson [D, MN-7]
Added November 01, 2011
o Rep. Chellie Pingree [D, ME-1]
Added September 12, 2011
o Rep. Charles Rangel [D, NY-15]
Added July 13, 2011
o Rep. Timothy Ryan [D, OH-17]
Added October 21, 2011
o Rep. Loretta Sanchez [D, CA-47]
Added October 12, 2011
o Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D, IL-9]
Added June 21, 2011
o Rep. Kurt Schrader [D, OR-5]
Added May 26, 2011
o Rep. Louise Slaughter [D, NY-28]
Added May 23, 2011
o Rep. Fortney Stark [D, CA-13]
Added July 06, 2011
o Rep. Betty Sutton [D, OH-13]
Added November 02, 2011
o Rep. Bennie Thompson [D, MS-2]
Added October 04, 2011
o Rep. John Tierney [D, MA-6]
Added July 19, 2011
o Rep. Edolphus Towns [D, NY-10]
Added May 23, 2011
o Rep. Peter Visclosky [D, IN-1]
Added June 15, 2011
o Rep. Maxine Waters [D, CA-35]
Added May 25, 2011
o Rep. Peter Welch [D, VT-0]
Added September 07, 2011
o Rep. Frederica Wilson [D, FL-17]
Added November 15, 2011
o Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D, CA-6]
Added May 11, 2011
o Rep. John Yarmuth [D, KY-3]
Added December 01, 2011

H.R.1489: Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress
 
Here are the sponsors and co-sponsors:

That it no way addresses what I or Republic noted. This doesn't just apply to the (D)'s either. "Trust me to do the right thing one more time" no longer cuts it. This is another post where you completely throw away any sort of legitimacy for stark partisanship.
 
Moments ago, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed over 13,000 for the first time since May 19, 2008. The stock market is now up over 56 percent since Obama took office. <snip>

BREAKING: Dow Jones Closes Above 13,000 For The First Time Since May 2008 | ThinkProgress

Thank you Mr. President. SOME of us are actually paying attention out here. Looking forward to your next term. ;)

I remember when the stock market boomed under Bush and all the libs said it meant Bush was helping the rich and everyone else was flipping burgers, talk about flipping, LMAO.
 
I remember when the stock market boomed under Bush and all the libs said it meant Bush was helping the rich and everyone else was flipping burgers, talk about flipping, LMAO.

Really? I never said that.
 
That it no way addresses what I or Republic noted. This doesn't just apply to the (D)'s either. "Trust me to do the right thing one more time" no longer cuts it. This is another post where you completely throw away any sort of legitimacy for stark partisanship.

All of the House Dems supporting HR 1489 is not clear enough for you guys to show which side is supporting it, and which side is not? Sheesh! Your conservative bias is showing here in your dishonest refusal to see who is supporting this and who isn't.
 
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All of the House Dems supporting HR 1489 is not clear enough for you guys which side is supporting, and which side is not? Sheesh! Your conservative bias is showing here in your dishonest refusal to see who is supporting this and who isn't.

When one refuses to actually address the questions posed to them the line of discussion will go nowhere.
 
When one refuses to actually address the questions posed to them the line of discussion will go nowhere.


When one demonstrates that he can't see the forest for the trees, it matters little whether the discussion goes anywhere or not.
 
All of the House Dems supporting HR 1489 is not clear enough for you guys to show which side is supporting it, and which side is not? Sheesh! Your conservative bias is showing here in your dishonest refusal to see who is supporting this and who isn't.

How is that even in the same universe as an answer to what I asked?
 
Moments ago, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed over 13,000 for the first time since May 19, 2008. The stock market is now up over 56 percent since Obama took office. <snip>

BREAKING: Dow Jones Closes Above 13,000 For The First Time Since May 2008 | ThinkProgress

Thank you Mr. President. SOME of us are actually paying attention out here. Looking forward to your next term. ;)

I pity the person that would have to follow a second Obama adm. Sooner or later continuing to try to print our way out of this mess isn't going to be an option.
 
How is that even in the same universe as an answer to what I asked?

It takes a while to build support or this kind of landmark legislation that bucks the power and wealth of Wall Street. It seems you think major political change should happen on your schedule. It doesn't work that way.

But you both refuse to acknowledge in your hang up about everything being done when you want it done, is that it now has 58 co-sponsors in the House. How could the Democrats support it more?
 
It takes a while to build support or this kind of landmark legislation that bucks the power and wealth of Wall Street. It seems you think major political change should happen on your schedule. It doesn't work that way.

People still do not support Obamacare.

But you both refuse to acknowledge in your hang up about everything being done when you want it done, is that it now has 58 co-sponsors in the House. How could the Democrats support it more?

We noted how. By voting on it when they had the numbers.
 
What an angry little post you have.

And, it seems you missed my first post in this thread:



Thank you President Obama!

You have spent more time whining about those who do well from investments than almost anyone on this board So its hilarious to watch you Obama slurp over this news
 
People still do not support Obamacare.

Everyone, including Obama, would have preferred a single payer system as opposed to the GOP insurance mandate. We will eventually have to upgrade to a single payer system.



We noted how. By voting on it when they had the numbers.

You sort of missed the whole point about taking time to buck Wall Street, didn't you?
 
You sort of missed the whole point about taking time to buck Wall Street, didn't you?

There was no gun held to their head. You claim in one breath that it takes time to "buck" Wall Street when the rest of the thread is about how great it is that the government has provided Wall Street everything it needed to get back to where it was before they screwed the economy up.
 
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