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Waters: Banks 'shaking in their boots' at thought of me as chairwoman

LMAO, the typical lib response when they have no response, you just accuse your opponent of being to stupid to get it so why bother, in other words you run.

Then explain how saying everybody who's black in Waters' district is a gang banger isn't racist.
 
I think that it does speak to some sort of prejudice when one takes the attitude that everybody who lives in a predominantly non-white area is either a criminal or on welfare. Look at what happened to Sacco and Vanzetti 100 or so years ago. It was assumed that they must be guilty, since they were Italian.

I'll note, he didn't say "everyone".
 
And I notice he never said "black" at all, he being ME, LOL. Another attempt to put words in my mouth I never said then attempt to make me defend them.

So the white folks which amount to 10% of Waters' district are the problem?

And when you said this:

The only race comment was if you are white you better watch your ass if you mistakinly end up there.

They should watch their ass because all 10% of the white people might get them?

Conservatism must be learning how to say racial **** and get away with it.
 
So the white folks which amount to 10% of Waters' district are the problem?

And when you said this:



They should watch their ass because all 10% of the white people might get them?

Conservatism must be learning how to say racial **** and get away with it.

Apparently you didn't look at the link I gave you about the white guy being pulled from his truck, beaten nearly to death and bashed in the head with bricks after he was unconscious, if that doesn't make a white guy feel a bit uncomfortable going into that area I don't know what would. It leads me to believe I wouldn't feel real welcome there. Now back to the subject, you think those guys voted for Maxine? LOL
 
Apparently you didn't look at the link I gave you about the white guy being pulled from his truck, beaten nearly to death and bashed in the head with bricks after he was unconscious, if that doesn't make a white guy feel a bit uncomfortable going into that area I don't know what would. It leads me to believe I wouldn't feel real welcome there. Now back to the subject, you think those guys voted for Maxine? LOL

I don't have to watch it, I saw it when it happened...was it 15 years ago now? It would make anyone feel uncomfortable.

I don't think many of those guys voted at all. They were too busy with gangsta ****, at least the ones guilty of the beating. Besides which, South Central is not part of Waters' district now, as the area was redistricted in 1993. Painting all the criminals as having voted for one party is....*hack*... sorry had to cough there.
 
They should watch their ass because all 10% of the white people might get them?

Conservatism must be learning how to say racial **** and get away with it.

Again, from my perception it's not a place that a white or maybe asian that isn't from the area wants to wander around. I've been trying to understand whether or not you think this is all wrong?

If it's factual, is it racist to point it out?
 
I don't have to watch it, I saw it when it happened...was it 15 years ago now? It would make anyone feel uncomfortable.

I don't think many of those guys voted at all. They were too busy with gangsta ****, at least the ones guilty of the beating. Besides which, South Central is not part of Waters' district now, as the area was redistricted in 1993. Painting all the criminals as having voted for one party is....*hack*... sorry had to cough there.

So your problem is with the idea that all that create the problems in the area vote (D), not with the description of the area?
 
Again, from my perception it's not a place that a white or maybe asian that isn't from the area wants to wander around. I've been trying to understand whether or not you think this is all wrong?

If it's factual, is it racist to point it out?

Only to a typical far left close-minded Liberal that it would racist for anyone to point out those hard facts.
 
Again, from my perception it's not a place that a white or maybe asian that isn't from the area wants to wander around. I've been trying to understand whether or not you think this is all wrong?

If it's factual, is it racist to point it out?


It's prejudicial to say that a black person in that area is necessarily a criminal or on welfare.

I have a friend who is unapologetically racist. When I see a story on the news about a black person committing a crime, I assume that's a bad individual. He takes it as proof that all blacks are criminals.

So it's all in how it's pointed out. If you're saying that "Hey, there's some bad individuals there, be careful," that's just good advice. If you say "Watch out for all the black criminals, they'll beat you because you're white," that's another thing altogether. What sawyer's saying, it seems to me, is "Yeah well no wonder you've got Maxine Waters, she has the support of all the black gangsters and welfare queens in South Central and East LA. Like all Democrats get the criminal vote." He doesn't even take into account that Waters doesn't represent the areas he's talking about because it's all the same to him. Interestingly, she does represent Hawthorne, which gave the world the Beach Boys, not gangsta rap. While the demographics have changed, much of her district is still relatively well off compared to South Central. That doesn't compute in his head that taking what some individuals in South Central did as proof of what the whole area is like, even areas that aren't South Central.
 
It's prejudicial to say that a black person in that area is necessarily a criminal or on welfare.

He said that the area was "awash" with criminals and those on welfare. Now I would not equate the two but once again, that is pretty much the picture I've got from many sources. Without changing what was said, are you saying that you do not believe that what he actually said is factual?

I have a friend who is unapologetically racist. When I see a story on the news about a black person committing a crime, I assume that's a bad individual. He takes it as proof that all blacks are criminals.

Sorry for your friend. Are you trying to say that your friend has skewed your ability to determine what is racist and what isn't?

So it's all in how it's pointed out. If you're saying that "Hey, there's some bad individuals there, be careful," that's just good advice. If you say "Watch out for all the black criminals, they'll beat you because you're white," that's another thing altogether. What sawyer's saying, it seems to me, is "Yeah well no wonder you've got Maxine Waters, she has the support of all the black gangsters and welfare queens in South Central and East LA. Like all Democrats get the criminal vote." He doesn't even take into account that Waters doesn't represent the areas he's talking about because it's all the same to him. Interestingly, she does represent Hawthorne, which gave the world the Beach Boys, not gangsta rap. While the demographics have changed, much of her district is still relatively well off compared to South Central. That doesn't compute in his head that taking what some individuals in South Central did as proof of what the whole area is like, even areas that aren't South Central.

He may have been wrong about the area she represents. That makes a statement racist? If I can determine what exactly in your eyes makes something racist, maybe I can make up my own mind.

You may be right but when you keep on representing his arguement as something other than what he said, I have my doubts.
 
It is possible to be both factual and prejudicial. Now let's look at what he said to back up his thoughts.

It was largely about gang bangers, their welfare moms with husbands in prison and drugs being part of the culture there. The only race comment was if you are white you better watch your ass if you mistakinly end up there. Exactly what part of this is wrong? Heres a couple of links for you to think about.

Reginald Denny incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LA GANG LIFE | DICKIES, THUGS & GUNS THE PHOTOGRAPHY OF ROBERT YAGER « The Selvedge Yard

The links that he gave were about Reginald Denny, which I knew about, and someones blog about a photo exhibit that has to do with a hispanic gang. Now when he talks about gang bangers and watching your ass if you're white, and his evidence is black criminals beating a white guy and hispanic thugs, what do you get from it?

It's not factually inaccurate, but his evidence is that it's minority gang bangers against honest working white folks. He extrpolates that, somehow, to Maxine Waters' election. So what's the logic? Maxine Waters represents the people of her district (true) and that the people of her district are minorities, gangstas and welfare queens.
 
It is possible to be both factual and prejudicial. Now let's look at what he said to back up his thoughts.



The links that he gave were about Reginald Denny, which I knew about, and someones blog about a photo exhibit that has to do with a hispanic gang. Now when he talks about gang bangers and watching your ass if you're white, and his evidence is black criminals beating a white guy and hispanic thugs, what do you get from it?

From what I know, it's likely truthful. I'm sure there are many areas I wouldn't set foot in under any circumstances.

It's not factually inaccurate, but his evidence is that it's minority gang bangers against honest working white folks. He extrpolates that, somehow, to Maxine Waters' election. So what's the logic? Maxine Waters represents the people of her district (true) and that the people of her district are minorities, gangstas and welfare queens.

I believe that there are very few places in the country where Waters could get elected.
 
I just love the irony when someone on the right says something like this, then complains that people call them racist. I wonder why...

Anyone who ctiticizes a black politician is a racist? Your post is dripping with irony.
 
Anyone who ctiticizes a black politician is a racist? Your post is dripping with irony.

Didn't read anything else did you? Ironically, for a black man, you never ever see any racism. Unless it's from the left.
 
I would like to add one thing to my previous post about as a white guy I would feel very uncomfortable entering Maxine's district. If I was a black guy from a good part of town with no gang to back me up I would feel just as uncomfortable, possibly even more uncomfortable, these are bad places full of bad people.
 
I just love the irony when someone on the right says something like this, then complains that people call them racist. I wonder why...

The race card again. I think you need to look up what that word means, so at least when you throw it around again, you know for sure you're mis-applying it.
 
I would like to add one thing to my previous post about as a white guy I would feel very uncomfortable entering Maxine's district. If I was a black guy from a good part of town with no gang to back me up I would feel just as uncomfortable, possibly even more uncomfortable, these are bad places full of bad people.
Your mistake was describing a black, liberal area of the country. Had you described a republican district in rural Kentucky as being awash with toothless, back-woods moonshiners that spent the best ten years of their lives in the first grade, drive around in pick-up trucks with gun racks and Confederate flags, and marry their first cousins, you would have gotten an atta-boy from people like Rocket88.
 
This would be why it would be impossible for me to vote (D) next year. My House rep (R) voted for the indefinate detention bill and I wrote him telling him how dissapointed I was in that vote and of course never hear back but I'll never be able to vote for whichever (D) runs against him.

You have a pretty indulgent attitude toward banks.
 
Your mistake was describing a black, liberal area of the country. Had you described a republican district in rural Kentucky as being awash with toothless, back-woods moonshiners that spent the best ten years of their lives in the first grade, drive around in pick-up trucks with gun racks and Confederate flags, and marry their first cousins, you would have gotten an atta-boy from people like Rocket88.

Don't read, do you?

Look at what happens on this board when somebody makes assumptions about somebody because they are conservative or from the South. The cons go ape****, and they're right. Same thing here. "If you live in LA and you're black, you must be a gang banger who voted for Waters." "If you live in Alabama and you voted for Bush, you must have more junked out cars in front of your trailer than you have teeth in your mouth." Same statement when you get right down to it.

At least make an accurate ad hom. I mean if you're going to be an asshole, AT LEAST READ THE ****ING THREAD FIRST. Nope, too much trouble. It's far easier to to make assumptions about people.

God, you cons will just jump to the defense of anyone remotely on your side. If a liberal said this, it would be absoulte proof of "liberal racism." Since sawyer's on your side, there's absolutely nothing going on here. You guys are real pieces of work. Not only do you run to defend somebody who says questionable things, you can't even make an accurate ad hom attack.
 
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The race card again. I think you need to look up what that word means, so at least when you throw it around again, you know for sure you're mis-applying it.

Funny you say that because I was going to post the definition of racist for the kid, then I thought, why bother.
 
Funny you say that because I was going to post the definition of racist for the kid, then I thought, why bother.

This from the person who thought Hank Williams Jr's First Amendment rights were being violated. Shall I post the actual First Amendment for you, or should I not even bother?
 
I quake in my boots every day that Maxine Waters has any shred of power to shape the future of anyone or anything.... that her moronic views and opinions are representative of enough people to keep her in Congress is nothing less than a bonifide miracle.

Perhaps, within the next year or two, the ethics violations of hers will be brought to light and taken up.
 
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