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U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

TheNextEra said:
Again, you need to actually read what I typed.

Show me where the majority of liberals said that we need to "We need to wait to find out what was wrong with the terrorists in 9/11" AND are denouncing the Marines quickly. Go ahead.
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It is a generalization based off of what most liberals in the media and in person say... I could give a flying squirrel **** if you believe it or not, in all honesty.

Well depends on how they want to do this. They can use the general conduct unbecoming or they can be specific in "public exposure". Either way the Marine Corps has even denounced this act as wrong. Not sure why you are arguing it's illegality.
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I am not arguing that it isn't illegal... I am arguing that making it illegal is stupid and that punishing them is moronic as well as stating that peeing on a dead enemy combatant is not dishonorable.
 
Bodhisattva said:
It is a generalization based off of what most liberals in the media and in person say... I could give a flying squirrel **** if you believe it or not, in all honesty.
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My talk radio thread became a partisan bitch fest. Why can't Right Wingers talk without about anything without throwing HUGE insults? That thread was created so that people would talk about their favorite shows and share what they like and disliked about them, in the hopes of improving the quality of shows by coming to a consensus about what is good about them.

Immediately, the thread devolved into partisan bickering. Radio can be an effective educational tool and excellent for liberals. Pacifica Radio, KPFK, from 1997 to 2006 was great and had lectures, and shared many viewpoints. Air America in the first couple years was top-notch, and will always be remembered as a historical footnote and was socially groundbreaking. Later, it became more like MSNBC focused on attacking Fox News when it seriously went down the tube in quality.

But anyway, just an afterthought.
 
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Kane said:
My talk radio thread became a partisan bitch fest. Why can't Right Wingers talk without about anything without throwing HUGE insults? That thread was created so that people would talk about their favorite shows and share what they like and disliked about them, in the hopes of improving the quality of shows by coming to a consensus about what is good about them.

Immediately, the thread devolved into partisan bickering. Radio can be an effective educational tool and excellent for liberals. Pacifica Radio, KPFK, from 1997 to 2006 was great and had lectures, and shared many viewpoints. Air America in the first couple years was top-notch, and will always be remembered as a historical footnote and was socially groundbreaking. Later, it became more like MSNBC focused on attacking Fox News when it seriously went down the tube in quality.

But anyway, just an afterthought.
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I love talk radio and miss it greatly... there is no talk radio here unfortunately. In my experience, and it is mostly with the fringe on either side... it is the liberal that insults emotionally first and the conservative who insults seriously second. I can't tell you how many times I was insulted out of the blue during a conversation by liberals. Just talking and they would start swearing and insulting my intelligence and character... when I would debate the liberal side with equally rabid conservatives I was never once sworn at. They might have insulted my position, but not me. A HUGE difference...
 
Bodhisattva said:
What military law discusses peeing on a dead enemy combatant?
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Article 134 actually. that said, the punishment still needs to fit the crime, couch warriors want to ruin these mens lives over a poor choice. these couch warriors also give more sympathy for the dead savages than the living servicemen.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I love talk radio and miss it greatly... there is no talk radio here unfortunately. In my experience, and it is mostly with the fringe on either side... it is the liberal that insults emotionally first and the conservative who insults seriously second. I can't tell you how many times I was insulted out of the blue during a conversation by liberals. Just talking and they would start swearing and insulting my intelligence and character... when I would debate the liberal side with equally rabid conservatives I was never once sworn at. They might have insulted my position, but not me. A HUGE difference...
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Bro, they got this thing called the internet, on it, they stream things like.... wait for it..... talk radio! Thank me very much! :pimpdaddy:
 
Kane said:
My talk radio thread became a partisan bitch fest. Why can't Right Wingers talk without about anything without throwing HUGE insults? That thread was created so that people would talk about their favorite shows and share what they like and disliked about them, in the hopes of improving the quality of shows by coming to a consensus about what is good about them.

Immediately, the thread devolved into partisan bickering. Radio can be an effective educational tool and excellent for liberals. Pacifica Radio, KPFK, from 1997 to 2006 was great and had lectures, and shared many viewpoints. Air America in the first couple years was top-notch, and will always be remembered as a historical footnote and was socially groundbreaking. Later, it became more like MSNBC focused on attacking Fox News when it seriously went down the tube in quality.

But anyway, just an afterthought.
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Yes those EVIL right wingers! Why can't they be like the righteous and noble left wingers! :lamo
 
Bodhisattva said:
It is a generalization based off of what most liberals in the media and in person say... I could give a flying squirrel **** if you believe it or not, in all honesty.
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Ahh so it's just more partisan Bull**** from you. Thanks for admitting it. Now we can move on.

Bodhisattva said:
I am not arguing that it isn't illegal... I am arguing that making it illegal is stupid and that punishing them is moronic as well as stating that peeing on a dead enemy combatant is not dishonorable.
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You seemed to imply it wasn't illegal with your comment:

Bodhisattva said:
What military law discusses peeing on a dead enemy combatant?
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But either way, it is not honorable to desecrate a corpse. I'm sorry but most civilized people recognize this. The Marine Corp surely does as well as the military in general. The majority of the United States is not a bunch of savages so we should not act as such.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Article 134 actually. that said, the punishment still needs to fit the crime, couch warriors want to ruin these mens lives over a poor choice. these couch warriors also give more sympathy for the dead savages than the living servicemen.
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Actually even looking at lots of liberal comments, it would seem the majority of liberals recognize that the actions of the Marine's are wrong, but I do not see the majority of liberals asking for dishonorable discharges.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Article 134 actually. that said, the punishment still needs to fit the crime, couch warriors want to ruin these mens lives over a poor choice. these couch warriors also give more sympathy for the dead savages than the living servicemen.
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They ruined their own lives.
 
TheNextEra said:
Actually even looking at lots of liberal comments, it would seem the majority of liberals recognize that the actions of the Marine's are wrong, but I do not see the majority of liberals asking for dishonorable discharges.
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I made no commentary on a liberal vs conservative view points. I think there are reasonable and unreasonable views. political lean has little to do with some of the asinine things some are posting.
 
kenvin said:
They ruined their own lives.
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sacraficial lambs to the delicate sensitivities of people who have no concept of war, combat, battle, service. We sent them off to war, they wage war, piss on a dead savage or two, and you want to throw the book at them. it's a good thing you have no standing eh?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I made no commentary on a liberal vs conservative view points. I think there are reasonable and unreasonable views. political lean has little to do with some of the asinine things some are posting.
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I know Rev, my comment was directed at Bodhisattva.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
sacraficial lambs to the delicate sensitivities of people who have no concept of war, combat, battle, service. We sent them off to war, they wage war, piss on a dead savage or two, and you want to throw the book at them. it's a good thing you have no standing eh?
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I don't want to throw the book at them. Throwing the book at them would be criminal charges and jail time. I think kick them out of the service like has happended to all service members who have publicly broken rules and laws. See England and Choi.
 
kenvin said:
I don't want to throw the book at them. Throwing the book at them would be criminal charges and jail time. I think kick them out of the service like has happended to all service members who have publicly broken rules and laws. See England and Choi.
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Actually, it is the dishonorable discharge that is throwing the book at them. A dishonorable discharge will follow you every where you go for the rest of your life. Many employers will not hire you if you have a dishonorable discharge. That goes for your life. I don't think pissing on dead bodies warrants a dishonorable discharge that will follow them for their entire life.
 
TheNextEra said:
Actually, it is the dishonorable discharge that is throwing the book at them. A dishonorable discharge will follow you every where you go for the rest of your life. Many employers will not hire you if you have a dishonorable discharge. That goes for your life. I don't think pissing on dead bodies warrants a dishonorable discharge that will follow them for their entire life.
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I think just be consistent. England and Choi got kicked out so should they. I don't think there should be harsher punishment for being female ir gay the punishment should be the same.
 
kenvin said:
I think just be consistent. England and Choi got kicked out so should they. I don't think there should be harsher punishment for being female ir gay the punishment should be the same.
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It's not the same crime, once again, war is not what you do on your xbox.
 
kenvin said:
I think just be consistent. England and Choi got kicked out so should they. I don't think there should be harsher punishment for being female ir gay the punishment should be the same.
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England's actions were to LIVING people.

As for Choi, you do realize he received an HONORABLE discharge right? He knew full well with the DADT (even if I don't agree with the policy), if he outed himself discharge was the only punishment he could receive. He knew this BEFORE he enlisted.

You're all over the board on this thing and I don't think you have your facts straight. This is a different situation than any of the two you mentioned.
 
When is this episode going to end? Already taken up too much bandwidth for one thread.
 
RDS said:
When is this episode going to end? Already taken up too much bandwidth for one thread.
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Noone is forcing you to read this or be here. Feel free to exit yourself from the thread whenever you want to.
 
kenvin said:
England is absolutely comparable she got kicked out. She dealt with terrorists every day.
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As was explained, She did that to LIVING people. Different situation, different outcome.

While both are illegal, there are different levels of punishment for the two.

If I cut the head off a dead body, I will not get the same punishment as if I cut the head off a live person.
 
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TheNextEra said:
As was explained, She did that to LIVING people. Different situation, different outcome.

While both are illegal, there are different levels of punishment for the two.

If I cut the head off a dead body, I will not get the same punishment as if I cut the head off a live person.
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Choi just said I'm gay he got kicked out his was less criminal than both. So getting kicked out isn't uncommon. They need to be consistent in punishment. Not harsher for women and gays
 
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kenvin said:
Choi just said I'm gay he got kicked out his was less criminal that both. So getting kicked out isn't uncommon. They need to be consistent in punishment. Not harsher for women and gays
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Choi got an HONORABLE discharge, not a dishonorable discharge as you are calling for these Marines.

Also Discharge was the ONLY punishment that could be given to Choi under military rules. This situation does not dictate that discharge is the ONLY punishment.

Again, different situations.
 
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