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U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

I don't think they should be either. Just dishonorable discharge like Choi.

Dan Choi wasn't dishonoably disharged. :lamo

Look! This is how it works: you have to convicted, via courts martial, to be dishonorably discharged.
 
They excercising their 1st Amendment right of free expression.

Yelling "fire" in a crowded room when there is no fire is also an expression. Doesn't mean it's allowed under 1st amendment. Nice try. Their actions go against the Marine Corp conduct for a Marine.
 
Dan Choi wasn't dishonoably disharged. :lamo

Look! This is how it works: you have to convicted, via courts martial, to be dishonorably discharged.

Well then they should get what ever it was Choi got.
 
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Yelling "fire" in a crowded room when there is no fire is also an expression. Doesn't mean it's allowed under 1st amendment. Nice try. Their actions go against the Marine Corp conduct for a Marine.

So did the actions of Choi, Watada and Manning. However, I think you wouldn't scream for a harsh punishment in those cases.
 
So did the actions of Choi, Watada and Manning. However, I think you wouldn't scream for a harsh punishment in those cases.

I'm not screaming for harsh punishment in this either. Non-judicial punishment is fine at the descretion of the Marine Corp. I don't beleive these Marines should be dishonorably discharged.

Choi (even though I disagree with kicking gays out of the military) broke the rules and discharge was the only choice.

Watada, I think a discharge was appropriate. I can't remember what kind of dischargehe got, but I think he deserved a general discharge, not honorable.

Manning is another story. I held a TS/SCI clearance while I was in the military. I feel very strongly in maintaining that. I believe a dishonorable discharge is in order with jail time attached.
 
I'm not screaming for harsh punishment in this either. Non-judicial punishment is fine at the descretion of the Marine Corp. I don't beleive these Marines should be dishonorably discharged.

Choi (even though I disagree with kicking gays out of the military) broke the rules and discharge was the only choice.

Watada, I think a discharge was appropriate. I can't remember what kind of dischargehe got, but I think he deserved a general discharge, not honorable.

Manning is another story. I held a TS/SCI clearance while I was in the military. I feel very strongly in maintaining that. I believe a dishonorable discharge is in order with jail time attached.

We are in agreement.
 
What are you even talking about?

Your amazingly lame and defensive use of the concept of free speech. As if he's not allowed to criticize what anyone says on the matter, because it's free speech... hahaha. I mean, c'mon, that's very ridiculous.
 
If losing your military career and benefits, and being publicly humiliated is Scott free.

"Bradley Manning, the US soldier charged in the biggest leak of classified information in American history, will face a court-martial.

Military district of Washington commander Major General Michael Linnington referred all 22 charges against Manning to a general court martial on Friday, the US Army said in a statement."

"Prosecutors have said that rather than seeking the death penalty, they will push for life in prison if Manning is convicted."

Bradley Manning: US general orders court-martial for WikiLeaks suspect

So much for those that thought Manning was going to get off easy.
 
"Bradley Manning, the US soldier charged in the biggest leak of classified information in American history, will face a court-martial.

Military district of Washington commander Major General Michael Linnington referred all 22 charges against Manning to a general court martial on Friday, the US Army said in a statement."

"Prosecutors have said that rather than seeking the death penalty, they will push for life in prison if Manning is convicted."

Bradley Manning: US general orders court-martial for WikiLeaks suspect

So much for those that thought Manning was going to get off easy.

What do you think should happen to Manning?
 
What do you think should happen to Manning?

It is up for the military to decide, just as it will be for them to decide the fate of the marines who dishonored their fellow Marines by pissing on corpses. I suspect the penalty will be the harshest for the non-commissioned officer that took part in desecrating the dead.
 
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I swear to God.

Just because America lost the battle for the global economy, the government thinks they have the right to bomb their way back to supremacy?

Who gave them that right?
 
I was in the Marine Corps and I can understand how war can drive people nuts to do such a thing as piss on the dead enemy. A Marine should know better and there is punishment in the Marine Corps for Marines that don't behave to the standard of the Marines. I was involved in administering that punishment and I think the proper punishment is decided on a just basis. My perspective is based on experience of recording that punishment. Marines are elite troops, but there is zero tolerance for behaving against the Marine Corps Code. If you break the Code, you deserve what come to you. If you think the Marines will tolerate misconduct, you don't know anything about them.
 
I swear to God.

Just because America lost the battle for the global economy, the government thinks they have the right to bomb their way back to supremacy?

Who gave them that right?

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I swear to God.

Just because America lost the battle for the global economy, the government thinks they have the right to bomb their way back to supremacy?

Who gave them that right?


Why don't you better control your tongue and go fight in Iraq or Afghanistan or better yet, in the coming war with Iran?
 
I swear to God.

Just because America lost the battle for the global economy, the government thinks they have the right to bomb their way back to supremacy?

Who gave them that right?

This is an odd statement.

What are you talking about?
 
This was a "Green" thing to do as it removes the necessity of flushing. Thank you to all that seve this country.
 
Your amazingly lame and defensive use of the concept of free speech. As if he's not allowed to criticize what anyone says on the matter, because it's free speech... hahaha. I mean, c'mon, that's very ridiculous.

Where did I say he isn't ALLOWED to criticize anyone? I just said that his comment of saying that people disagreeing with pissing on dead bodies is "aiding and abetting the enemy" is wrong.

Do you need hoooked on phonics or something?
 
Yep, we should make a law that limits the freedom of speech from disagreeing with Marines pissing on dead bodies.

Look, I think non-judicial punishment is fine and should be at the descretion of the Marin Corp, but calling free speech aiding and abetting the enemy is just plain stupid.

Wasn't this establish about 1000 posts ago? It's not as big a deal as it's being made out to be. Look what Taliban and many others over there do to westerners, cutting off heads, burning flags, 9/11.
 
I swear to God.

Just because America lost the battle for the global economy, the government thinks they have the right to bomb their way back to supremacy?

Who gave them that right?

Should the question be What gave them that right, not who? Being is a verb to continuing action of existing, not a noun. Ideas only exist within lifetimes existing and that is a what, not a characteristic of who, but whom is in charge of reality.

Real isn't a reality and reality isn't a complete understanding of the real moment by any faction of socializing a two gendered species of lifetimes adapting to eternity's results so far on this self contained planet of self maintaining molecular migrations of the elements and cellular combinations of those elements becoming an entities of the food chain process unique to this planet is to the universe and like a lifetime is to ancestry.

There is your physical alternate realities and parallel universes all within now's eternal compounding taking place here as always so far.
Becareful in what you wish for, it can turn dreams into a living eternal hell of one's own ancestry's making of life upon their own universal positioned in now's results here as conceived and contrived in theory and theology making conceptual characters matter and conceived characteristics worth less.
 
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Wasn't this establish about 1000 posts ago? It's not as big a deal as it's being made out to be. Look what Taliban and many others over there do to westerners, cutting off heads, burning flags, 9/11.


Using that logic, you can justify any illegal act by pointing and saying "Well they do worse". The Marine Corp knows this which is why the Marine Corp denounced the act as being against what the Marine Corp expects of it's Marines.

As much as you hate to see it, it was wrong.
 
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