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U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

That's because you don't know what you're talking about. Try "taliban atrocities". Duh.

If, when I Google "Afghanistan Atrocities," I get scores and scores of those supposedly committed by U.S. soldiers, beyond that I should get those committed against our soldiers as well. "Duh" right back atcha'.

Oh, and by the way, please give me a link to some committed against our soldiers. We are being spoon fed.
 
Did you read this article? Not that it matters one bit in my comments to MaggieD.



point is, the people you support don't consider the ones that kill and maim the soldiers over thier "the enemy", yet we are here concerned with Marines pissing on a bunch of savages corpses.
 
If, when I Google "Afghanistan Atrocities," I get scores and scores of those supposedly committed by U.S. soldiers, beyond that I should get those committed against our soldiers as well. "Duh" right back atcha'.

You claimed that nobody cared about atrocities by our enemy. I proved that wrong.

Oh, and by the way, please give me a link to some committed against our soldiers. We are being spoon fed.

I'm done doing your research for you. Maybe there aren't any atrocities being committed against our soldiers. Maybe they are, but are hard to find. I don't know. But it's up to you to prove they are. Simply saying you haven't found them isn't an argument. It's mighty convenient for you, because you can claim they're being covered up, rather than either looking for them (if they exist) or admitting they aren't there (if they don't). That's standard conspiracy theory logic.
 
thing is, "soldiers" have been desecrating the corpses of their fallen enemies for as long as there has been conflict.
 
point is, the people you support don't consider the ones that kill and maim the soldiers over thier "the enemy", yet we are here concerned with Marines pissing on a bunch of savages corpses.

You don't know who I support, nor do they speak for me.

This thread is full of the immature, and dangerous, rationalizations for Americans doing unAmerican things. It's typical of the small-minded thinking that comes up whenever an incident like this happens. It's sad. It hurts us in so many ways.
 
People of good will and those who have a sense of decency would be disgusted by such displays no matter which side performed them. The sad record of history is that there is no shortage of wrongs committed during war.

As Americans, many of us like to believe we are a bit better than the rest, that we have higher standards than the rest, and we subscribe to a code of decency and honor that puts us on a higher moral plane than the rest. When something like this pops up, it causes those beliefs about ourselves to be questioned.
 
You don't know who I support, nor do they speak for me.

This thread is full of the immature, and dangerous, rationalizations for Americans doing unAmerican things. It's typical of the small-minded thinking that comes up whenever an incident like this happens. It's sad. It hurts us in so many ways.



"small minded", coming from the naivley ignorant on the subject of being in a warzone, all I can do is shrug. See -> :shrug:
 
thing is, "soldiers" have been desecrating the corpses of their fallen enemies for as long as there has been conflict.

Is that wrong or is it okay?

If it's wrong, it was wrong to piss on them.

If it's okay, then it's okay when they piss on our soldiers or burn them and hang them from bridges.

Which is it?
 
"small minded", coming from the naivley ignorant on the subject of being in a warzone, all I can do is shrug. See -> :shrug:

Is desecrating bodies in war wrong, or okay? You pick.
 
People of good will and those who have a sense of decency would be disgusted by such displays no matter which side performed them. The sad record of history is that there is no shortage of wrongs committed during war.

As Americans, many of us like to believe we are a bit better than the rest, that we have higher standards than the rest, and we subscribe to a code of decency and honor that puts us on a higher moral plane than the rest. When something like this pops up, it causes those beliefs about ourselves to be questioned.



Yes, this is all true, however when something like this happens, it's important to keep perspective. Pissing on the corpses of these savages is mild compared to what they have done to others.
 
thing is, "soldiers" have been desecrating the corpses of their fallen enemies for as long as there has been conflict.

As you know Oscar...our soldiers are not the soldiers of the 1400's...they are more educated, more compentent, and held to a much higher standard.
 
Is desecrating bodies in war wrong, or okay? You pick.


You wouldn't understand life in a warzone.



"“There were young knights among them who had never been present at a stricken field. Some could not look upon it and some could not speak and they held themselves apart from the others who were cutting down the prisoners at My Lord’s orders, for the prisoners were a body too numerous to be guarded by those of us who were left. Then Jean de Rye, an aged knight of Burgundy who had been sore wounded in the battle, rode up to the group of young knights and said: ‘Are ye maidens with your downcast eyes? Look well upon it. See all of it. Close your eyes to nothing. For a battle is fought to be won. And it is this that happens if you lose.”
- Froissart’s Chronicles, 14th century
 
I think its kind of convenient that there is a camera 10 feet in front of these guys doing what they are doing. Wouldnt you expect a sniper to spot something like that, and maybe wait till after the camera left before doing something that would get him drummed out of the military? This is nothing but a PR campaign. I doubt it ever happened.
 
You claimed that nobody cared about atrocities by our enemy. I proved that wrong.

What??? Misterman, please read. You didn't even understand what I wrote, much less proved it wrong.

I'm done doing your research for you. Maybe there aren't any atrocities being committed against our soldiers. Maybe they are, but are hard to find. I don't know. But it's up to you to prove they are. Simply saying you haven't found them isn't an argument. It's mighty convenient for you, because you can claim they're being covered up, rather than either looking for them (if they exist) or admitting they aren't there (if they don't). That's standard conspiracy theory logic.

"Maybe there aren't any atrocities being committed against our soldiers." This mindset is the perfect example of why propaganda works. Kool Aid.
 
Yes, this is all true, however when something like this happens, it's important to keep perspective. Pissing on the corpses of these savages is mild compared to what they have done to others.

Ah, so you're creeping toward moral relativity. We can be depraved as long as we're not as depraved as they are. Could we blow up their buildings with civilians inside as long as we don't kill as many as they killed on 9/11?
 
What??? Misterman, please read. You didn't even understand what I wrote, much less proved it wrong.
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You were claiming that nobody reports on Taliban atrocities, right?

"Maybe there aren't any atrocities being committed against our soldiers." This mindset is the perfect example of why propaganda works. Kool Aid.

See, now you're the one totally lost. It was a hypothetical.

Combine small minds with rabid partisanship and you get **** like this.
 
Ah, so you're creeping toward moral relativity. We can be depraved as long as we're not as depraved as they are. Could we blow up their buildings with civilians inside as long as we don't kill as many as they killed on 9/11?


Never claimed that. Targeting civillians is a war crime, pissing on the dead pales in comparison. Now if there are civillians in a building by choice who do not egress the building when the enemy is firing upon us, like will munny said in the unforgiven.... "should of armed himself".....


Will you be shooting another strawman or can we try a serious discussion here?
 
When you unleash the dogs of war, bad things will happen along with the "good" of killing the enemy. It is simply the way things are. I well remember the first Gulf War and the video of the missles that were so smart that they could do down a chimney into a targeted building. Right.

Sherman was right..... war is hell. To expect otherwise is the worst sort of self imposed blindness or naivety.

What we need to do... and when is say WE I mean all people all over the world - is to create an environment in each and every nation where war is the true last resort which only happens when all else fails and there is no other alternative. It is up to people to create that sort of imperative that governments must follow or risk the wrath of their own populations.
 
You claimed that nobody cared about atrocities by our enemy. I proved that wrong.

That's standard conspiracy theory logic.

How about I show you conspiring means to an end game of global domination to collective thought under one rule of law?
It is my avatar. top to bottom is the axis for spirituality, the left to right is political separation, and front to back is economic mobility. Now put any topic or issue in the center and have 24 ways to space out a definintion not the same as any other but descrbing the same event.

Want 16 more sides to cover 5 senses from each of the 8 corners? simple
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Now at the peak of each of these extra points from the original six still showing, a sole lifetime is born on the top of that inverse diagonal reverse of the other which would symbolize why at death the white light appears retruning to the core of etenrity's compounding point self contained molecular migration of the same 120 estimated periodic table of elements has compounded into so far here on this planet during the universal balancing taking place now all the time.

But this is to simple compared to all those theories and theologies ruling humanity through the generations of ancestry that conceived the ancestors here acting the same way.

Please, this is to damned easy. Implode reality and everything real rises to the surface.
 
I asked you question. Don't be a coward, answer it.



I find calling folks on the internet, a very ironic act....... That said. I don't see pissing on the dead as "desecration" in the same light as say hanging bodies from a bridge....
 
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You were claiming that nobody reports on Taliban atrocities, right?

I'm not going to do your homework for you. Can't understand properly constructed sentences? Not my problem.

Combine small minds with rabid partisanship and you get **** like this.

I agree, Misterman.
 
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