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Mitt Romney’s Son: Obama Should Release Birth Certificate, Grades

pbrauer said:
That's for the voting public to judge. :shrug:
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do you have perhaps an educated guess why he hasn't? its not like he has a blanket policy against releasing any academic information
 
TurtleDude said:
do you have perhaps an educated guess why he hasn't? its not like he has a blanket policy against releasing any academic information
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I don't know whether he has or hasn't released released his records, do you have proof that he hasn't?

There was a claim he didn't attend Columbia, which seems to be untrue.

snopes.com: Barack Obama at Columbia
 
TurtleDude said:
and that is a myth as well. I think through Vietnam Yale had supplied more officers to the US army than any other college in the country. Current volunteer military does not have a ton of poor people in it because they often cannot make the grade Two guys I know well (one a nephew) served in the special forces. The first guy, about my age was heir to a major league construction firm and grew up on a 50 acre estate in an area where land goes for 130K an acre. He did 6 years as ENLISTED in the SF. My nephew-the son of a Harvard and Michigan Law graduate, joined ROTC after 9-11 then went AIT then Rangers Two combat tours in Iraq, then another 14 month deployment in Afghanistan with the SF (currently a Captain). He didn't have to work a day in his life yet he's carrying 90 pounds of gear in the mountains of Afghanistan.
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Vietnam was a working man's war. And you are correct that many of higher economic levels felt the patriotic calling to serve. But the college draft deferment was an attractive avenue to avoid the war and thus college enrollment went up during the conflict.
I appreciate your nephews service to our country and can tell you are very proud of them. I truly wish them well and a safe return home.

My only point is that almost every American family at one generation or other has had family members in the military. As far as known, not one Romney member for three generations has ever served in the miitary.

Of course many respond that Obama nor Biden served and that is true. But both have had military members in their families with Obama's grandfathers and Biden's son.
 
apdst said:
So, is Mitt running for president. Or Mitt's kid?

Tell you what...if it makes you feel better, don't vote for Matt.
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Point taken and I should take the high road as the Republicans here in these forums have done in avoiding comment about Obama's parents and wife.
 
pbrauer said:
I don't know whether he has or hasn't released released his records, do you have proof that he hasn't?

There was a claim he didn't attend Columbia, which seems to be untrue.

snopes.com: Barack Obama at Columbia
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the WSJ had an article that established Obama did graduate from Columbia but it also noted he didn't even achieve "cum laude" which is around a 3.3 GPA. (most schools release the graduates with the honors noted as well)
 
Crosscheck said:
Vietnam was a working man's war. And you are correct that many of higher economic levels felt the patriotic calling to serve. But the college draft deferment was an attractive avenue to avoid the war and thus college enrollment went up during the conflict.
I appreciate your nephews service to our country and can tell you are very proud of them. I truly wish them well and a safe return home.

My only point is that almost every American family at one generation or other has had family members in the military. As far as known, not one Romney member for three generations has ever served in the miitary.

Of course many respond that Obama nor Biden served and that is true. But both have had military members in their families with Obama's grandfathers and Biden's son.
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I tend to look at the man-my grandfather earned-among other things-the DSC, the purple heart, the silver star and the Croix de Guerre, my uncle the Purple heart, the Navy Cross (KIA) and my father also served albeit the war ended before he saw actual combat. My uncle served on the USS Missouri-his main claim to fame was finding a big supply of condoms for the sailors as they celebrated the end of the war. My nephew serves as a Captain in the "green berets" somewhere reputedly being Afghanistan. That in no way qualifies me for any political office whatsoever
 
TurtleDude said:
the WSJ had an article that established Obama did graduate from Columbia but it also noted he didn't even achieve "cum laude" which is around a 3.3 GPA. (most schools release the graduates with the honors noted as well)
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As a lawyer I think you can do far better than this. Whatever you find that's conclusive please send it to Mitt.
 
pbrauer said:
As a lawyer I think you can do far better than this. Whatever you find that's conclusive please send it to Mitt.
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I don't need to do any more. anyone who has applied to Ivy league law schools knows damn well that a sub 3.3 GPA is going to doom 99.9% of any white male who applied
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
The fact that the government uses the "what've you got to hide" line to justify wanting access to more information and greater authority doesn't make it a legitimate response to a politician treating private matters as private matters.
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I think there is a humongous difference between the government wanting access to more information about individual citizens and the people wanting more information about the individuals seeking to be elected to run the government.
 
I would like to see Oblabla's military discharge and Bidens side by side. But then they may be in same shoe box as Newts.
 
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