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Kelly Clarkson Loses Twitter Followers After Endorsing Ron Paul

Dr_Patrick said:
The thing is, Kelly Clarkson is really not that fat. She's about average sized. People tend to forget what real women look like.
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Ehhh... keep in mind what we consider to be normal in our social settings is just as warped as what we consider to be normal in advertising. Americans are mostly overweight, and we have a perception of that being normal in the context of our day-to-day lives.

I think it's pretty likely Kelly Clarkson would be classified as overweight. Body types vary, and depending on her build and a bunch of other factors she may not be... but I think that's unlikely.

Is that a reason to judge her? Does that make it any less totally stupid for someone to even bring it up? No, and no. But it's still true.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
The thing is, Kelly Clarkson is really not that fat. She's about average sized. People tend to forget what real women look like.
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I agree she really is not THAT fat, but she is fat. :shrug:
I also said that physically i dont find her THAT UNattractive, she has attractive physical qualities and I wouldnt kick her out of bed, physically

BUT I could NEVER call her in shape or skinny or even avg, she may be avg if you take in account every women over 18 but I say for 30 and below she definitely is not.

Also I know very well what real women look like, those are the ones i have to date ;) lol
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
I think it's pretty likely Kelly Clarkson would be classified as overweight.
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Not judging by that picture. She looks healthy to me. A little softer than I like, but my tastes are admittedly abnormal.

Of course, what I'm responding to is the absurd and misogynistic notion that she's too fat to be attractive and that's why she's losing fans.
 
I think she lost them because she got fat.
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Not everybody is so shallow that it matters to them what a person looks like. Sheesh, some of the best entertainers in the world are overweight. BB King, Ella Fitzgerald, Aretha Franklin. I could go on and on. I'm glad that I'm not that shallow. I'd miss alot of good music.

Politics is one thing. If someone wants to talk about their political beliefs, that's fine, so long as you can handle the backlash. But it's stupid and shallow and superficial to dislike someone's music because of how they look. Glad alot of people don't feel the same way you do, or Adele wouldn't have spent 9 consecutive weeks in the number 1 album spot.
 
The thing is, Kelly Clarkson is really not that fat. She's about average sized. People tend to forget what real women look like.
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Average sized doesn't mean not fat, unfortunately.

Dude, I'm not into waddlers, but I like women with meat on their bones. Fifteen to twenty pounds works for me. Rubenesque works for me almost every time. Women who are thin are great as well. It depends on the woman and how she feels about herself. Self-confident women are sexy. Intelligent women knock me out!

Here's a truism you might want to consider: Age happens. If you are fortunate you will experience an aging body. It is inevitable. When and were it happens is a matter of genetics. You obviously have no idea how enchanting women over 30 or 40 or 50 can be.

I have never liked implanted, botoxed, collagenized women. It isn't natural! A lady in her 40s, with natural curves, is really a subject of beauty. You obviously have no idea.

The celebrity world is not real. Playboy is not real. Worship of any of that is idiocy. True beauty lasts forever.
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Never said women had to be super skinny to be attractive.

Of course, what I'm responding to is the absurd and misogynistic notion that she's too fat to be attractive and that's why she's losing fans.
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Definitely too fat to be attractive to me. I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. Gross.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Not judging by that picture. She looks healthy to me. A little softer than I like, but my tastes are admittedly abnormal.

Of course, what I'm responding to is the absurd and misogynistic notion that she's too fat to be attractive and that's why she's losing fans.
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I'm talking purely medically here. And do note, that being mildly overweight (which is what she would be, from the looks of things) is not considered medically significant in most cases. In some situations it can even be beneficial. The main concern is usually in preventing any further weight gain, since the person is displaying a tendency to carry more weight than they strictly should, and we live in a society where gaining weight is really, really easy.

I'm just sayin' she's almost certainly overweight. And as Americans, we tend to think "normal" is bigger than it actually is.

Yeah, that was an insanely misogynistic comment. And woman her size and bigger have been the subject of many an artistic masterpiece all throughout history. Far more often than the super model type, that's for sure.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Definitely too fat to be attractive to me. I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. Gross.
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I wouldn't know from experience, but I've heard that blow-up dolls feel much better when you blow them up all the way. Pro-Tip.
 
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liblady said:
Of course we have freedom of politics. And we have the freedom to dislike someone else's politics. It's all about the freedom!
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Sure, just like we have freedom of intolerance but that does not make it right.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
...Yeah, that was an insanely misogynistic comment. And woman her size and bigger have been the subject of many an artistic masterpiece all throughout history. Far more often than the super model type, that's for sure.
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...and those women were made of stone...give me a shapely super model any day!
 
coolwalker said:
...and those women were made of stone...give me a shapely super model any day!
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Super models these days aren't shapely. They aren't just thin - they're significantly underweight.

Now, if we're talking super models from the 80's or something, that's a different thing all together. Those women were mad buff and genetically gifted, but certainly healthy. But super models from the last 20 years or so are beyond thin and into the territory of dangerous. I'm totally tired of "skinny hate" of thin women, but super models are not just thin. If we were taking it in the opposite direction, it would be like idolizing morbid obesity. It's really unhealthy.
 
I'm willing to bet money that these 'defections' from her twitter account dont exactly impact her $ bottom line all that much. I also think its pretty pathetic that people would stop enjoying her music not over a position on abortion, or the war, but over the support of a candidate. But...c'est la vie...people should feel free to not support her...not listen to her music.

For the record...I've seen her perform...she is energetic...dynamic...and aint nothin wrong with curves!
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Yeah, that was an insanely misogynistic comment.
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It's not misogynistic at all, because it wasn't qualified by gender.

Super models these days aren't shapely. They aren't just thin - they're significantly underweight.
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Super models =/= all models. I don't think you have a very good understanding of the fashion industry if you are still so hyperfocused on "super models".
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
Super models =/= all models. I don't think you have a very good understanding of the fashion industry if you are still so hyperfocused on "super models".
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The post I was replying to specified super models. Did you read it?

I'm actually very much a fan of some of the alt industry models. Lots of different shapes and sizes. Super models? No, not particularly. I'm tired of reading about them dying of anorexia.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
The post I was replying to specified super models. Did you read it?

I'm actually very much a fan of some of the alt industry models. Lots of different shapes and sizes. Super models? No, not particularly. I'm tired of reading about them dying of anorexia.
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Let's see...a beauty contest between a model (shapely of course) and a fat housewife. Who looks at the fat one and say she's a winner? Another fat person, that's who.
 
coolwalker said:
Let's see...a beauty contest between a model (shapely of course) and a fat housewife. Who looks at the fat one and say she's a winner? Another fat person, that's who.
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Healthy is attractive. No contest.

However, mildly overweight is not always unattractive, just like thin is not always attractive. Depends on the person, their body type, how they carry themselves, and who's looking. And depending who's looking, even an anorexic or a morbidly obese person can be attractive to that individual.

I'm a fan of healthy-looking people in general. There is lots of variability within that - including the mildly overweight in some cases, and the very thin in others. You just sort of know when you look at someone whether their weight is healthy on their build.

I don't know what on earth you're so defensive about, or why you're assuming I'm fat simply because I think you have a warped perception of women and bodies.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
Mildly overweight =/= fat.

Appealing to moral relativism doesn't help your argument.
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Well, it's true. I'd argue that such people also have a warped perception of bodies, but there's no debating that they exist.

Kelly Clarkson isn't fat, then.
 
I'd do her. In a heartbeat.

Then again, I'm one who also like "meat on the bones". In the photo presented here, she's pushing the bounds of what I like a bit, but looks are only half the equation. She's very attractive despite being overweight, AND she gets the other half right by how she carries herself and her attitude and personality. The two combined make her gorgeous.
 
DashingAmerican said:
And this is part of what is wrong with America.
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just so were clear.. you do realize its more than just the media and sheeple of the USA that have issues with vanity?
in fact, ill bet its tough to find a "civilized" nation that doesnt..


IMO, clarkson looks fine, though shes certainly no victoria secrets model.
id let her buy me dinner and a movie anytime..(so long as its not a chick flick)

as for her politics; i dont care one iota.. on a semi-related note, i didnt care about what natalie maines said either.. shut up and sing!
 
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