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brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

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A woman jumped from her SUV driven by her husband and containing her kids on I-75 just a few miles from where we were today. We were on our way home (Northbound) and heard that the highway was shut down a mile south of where we were but no one reported at the time why. The local news just reported what actually happened.

I have always heard that suicides are at their highest this time of the year but its usually people who are alone with no family
 
This was reported on CBS-Channel 12, Cincinnati at 11.03 PM
 
That's an odd way to kill yourself. Are investigators sure that it was a suicide?
 
That's an odd way to kill yourself. Are investigators sure that it was a suicide?

that's a good point and apparently its why it took 10 or so hours for this conclusion to be released after they spent hours questioning the father, the children and witnesses.
 
A woman jumped from her SUV driven by her husband and containing her kids on I-75 just a few miles from where we were today. We were on our way home (Northbound) and heard that the highway was shut down a mile south of where we were but no one reported at the time why. The local news just reported what actually happened.

I have always heard that suicides are at their highest this time of the year but its usually people who are alone with no family

Woman Dies After Jumping Out Of Car - :: Cincinnati news story :: LOCAL 12 WKRC-TV in Cincinnati
 
what a great holiday for those kids and their father. maybe the information will come to light as to why this happened but that woman sure must have hated her children to do something like this
 
what a great holiday for those kids and their father. maybe the information will come to light as to why this happened but that woman sure must have hated her children to do something like this

I'm suspicious - we know nothing so maybe it wasn't a suicide. . . who knows.
 
Even for people with families, suicides are higher around this time of the year because of expectations. People, because of the media, expect the holidays to be perfect... full of joy and happiness. Life can be good... but perfect? No. The high expectations people place often causes immense disappointment... hence depression and suicide. I know I've been very busy over the past few weeks. In fact... I have to take an emergency phone call right now.
 
I'm suspicious - we know nothing so maybe it wasn't a suicide. . . who knows.

well more reports claim that the police have ruled it a suicide. we have a seatbelt law in Ohio and it appears that she might have unbuckled right before this. its pretty damn hard to fall out of a car even without a seat belt on unless

1) the vehicle is struck severely (not the case)

2) or you jump

I have been driving for 36 years, have near a million miles behind the wheel as a driver, several hundred K more as a passenger and I cannot recall ever having a car door open unintentionally while driving nor have I ever seen a door open on an interstate on another car though I do note that when I was 5 or so (I know I was under 6 because it was at my grandmother's house and she died when I was six) my youngest brother-than 2 or 3 opened the door as we were pulling out of her driveway and fell out-he didn't want to leave grandma.
 
Even for people with families, suicides are higher around this time of the year because of expectations. People, because of the media, expect the holidays to be perfect... full of joy and happiness. Life can be good... but perfect? No. The high expectations people place often causes immense disappointment... hence depression and suicide. I know I've been very busy over the past few weeks. In fact... I have to take an emergency phone call right now.

That makes sense-thanks for a professional opinion on the subject
 
well more reports claim that the police have ruled it a suicide. we have a seatbelt law in Ohio and it appears that she might have unbuckled right before this. its pretty damn hard to fall out of a car even without a seat belt on unless

1) the vehicle is struck severely (not the case)

2) or you jump

I have been driving for 36 years, have near a million miles behind the wheel as a driver, several hundred K more as a passenger and I cannot recall ever having a car door open unintentionally while driving nor have I ever seen a door open on an interstate on another car though I do note that when I was 5 or so (I know I was under 6 because it was at my grandmother's house and she died when I was six) my youngest brother-than 2 or 3 opened the door as we were pulling out of her driveway and fell out-he didn't want to leave grandma.

I have seen news stories of people unbuckling and jumping out of a car to escape something bad happening inside the vehicle. It's just a strange way to kill yourself... If she did kill herself in that fashion, it is very, very sad. It seems like a split second decision, because when people spent time considering suicide, they probably don't think of jumping out of a car as the way to go. I have heard that most women OD on pills, and men, I believe, typically kill themselves with a gun. Suicide is so horrible. I feel bad for those children and husband.
 
Even for people with families, suicides are higher around this time of the year because of expectations. People, because of the media, expect the holidays to be perfect... full of joy and happiness. Life can be good... but perfect? No. The high expectations people place often causes immense disappointment... hence depression and suicide. I know I've been very busy over the past few weeks. In fact... I have to take an emergency phone call right now.

I know how holidays can bring out a lot of dark things in people. I went to the store for a few things and it was so crowded... everything sold out. It was ridiculous and there were people with empty shopping carts blocking all the aisles, just staring at shelves... no employees were there to answer where they moved their usual items for all the seasonal crap. I was eventually boiling over with anger and stress. I so just wanted to scream out, "get out of my ****ing way and move your ****ing cart." It was so annoying and stressful. What should have been 15 minutes of shopping was 45 minutes of walking around, bumping into strangers, and waiting in line. I hate the holidays because of stuff like that.
 
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Very sad especially for the husband who has to bring those kids up alone, nothing more selfish than suicide
 
I know how holidays can bring out a lot of dark things in people. I went to the store for a few things and it was so crowded... everything sold out. It was ridiculous and there were people with empty shopping carts blocking all the aisles, just staring at shelves... nobody employees were there to answer where they moved their usual items for all the seasonal crap. I so just wanted to scream out, "get out of my ****ing way and move your ****ing cart." It was so annoying and stressful. I hate the holidays because of stuff like that.

many drivers have serious cases of cranial-rectal inversion syndrome around the malls this time of the year. Two days ago a woman turning right in front of me was looking right rather than at the road behind her as I was rapidly approaching the side street where she decided to pull ot of without even seeing the traffic. fortunately I had

1) brand new tires

2) a recent brake job

3) and extremely fast reflexes for a 52 year old (at 20 I had the fastest reaction time [tested by hitting a button when you saw a light] of any athlete tested that year at the USOTC at Colorado springs)

and was able to avoid ramming a lexus going 45 miles an hour into the driver's side of a chevy driven by some woman with a serious case of such a disease.

she looked like ET had jumped on her hood when I slammed on the AL brakes and hit the horn and swerved around her. totally dazed and confused
 
Could be anything, but I'd bet on it being related to money or infidelity. It's a sad thing no matter what the reason. I mean the kids, those lives are ruined.
 
Could be anything, but I'd bet on it being related to money or infidelity. It's a sad thing no matter what the reason. I mean the kids, those lives are ruined.

terrible for the kids to see that...
 
Such a sad story. Wow. I feel so badly for the children, and it's sad that there is so much importance placed on having everything perfect. I worked with a guy in Syracuse a few years ago who killed himself at Christmastime. He had two small children, a boy and a girl. He drove out to the lake and swallowed a bullet. Suicide is so selfish. So selfish.

There's so much pressure to make sure that everything is just perfect, and lots of kids are raised in a manner that they aren't thankful for what they have, or what they are given. I see so many people who have kids who demand certain items, and act out if they don't get it. My kids don't make lists. They give me suggestions on things that they would like, and I work around it, but I don't fill "lists." It takes away from the spirit of the season, in my opinion.

Anyway, I feel sorry for the little family she ruined. Selfish, selfish woman.
 
many drivers have serious cases of cranial-rectal inversion syndrome around the malls this time of the year. Two days ago a woman turning right in front of me was looking right rather than at the road behind her as I was rapidly approaching the side street where she decided to pull ot of without even seeing the traffic. fortunately I had

1) brand new tires

2) a recent brake job

3) and extremely fast reflexes for a 52 year old (at 20 I had the fastest reaction time [tested by hitting a button when you saw a light] of any athlete tested that year at the USOTC at Colorado springs)

and was able to avoid ramming a lexus going 45 miles an hour into the driver's side of a chevy driven by some woman with a serious case of such a disease.

she looked like ET had jumped on her hood when I slammed on the AL brakes and hit the horn and swerved around her. totally dazed and confused


had something similar happen to me last year except all I could do was steer my car into a snow bank!
 
Very sad especially for the husband who has to bring those kids up alone, nothing more selfish than suicide

not always true. I knew a guy who had ALS who killed himself. It saved his family from having to both see him waste away for another one or two years, and the expense of round the clock nursing care.

My dad died after a year long battle with a cancer he contracted from smoking that was in his sinuses, throat etc. He gradually lost his ability to speak, then had to have a trach tube, which caused a massive MERSA infection (the tube put in at the ER room was not properly sterilized according to his main doctor) that ultimately killed him. Four days before he died he wrote a note saying "Give me your Beretta". ( the gun I carried at the time) I wouldn't but I can understand how some people would want to end a no win situation under somewhat their own terms.

I wouldn't have seen a suicide by my father at that time as selfish

On the other hand, my mother contracted pneumonia a year later and refused treatment despite the fact that even with COPD and a poorly healed shoulder fracture 6 years before she died, she still had pretty good quality of life. I really was bitter when she died because she took from my son his only remaining grandmother and unlike her other grandkids-two of whom lived thousand of miles away and another two who really didn't like going to her home (she was a smoker and it really bothered them) He really enjoyed her company and spent hours each week with her and he had a hard time dealing with that especially after he saw his grandfather fight hard to stay alive until (as I noted) four days before he died and after the doctors told him that they could not stop the infection
 
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This might not be much a related story, but my brother discovered a dead body when he was young boy. It was a homeless man and it was around Christmas time, because they said he froze to death. My brother didn't have any issues with that despite being a kid. He has had more problems since he volunteered to work with the fire dept, and has seen deaths more recently in life. I think it's kind of strange how he says he remembers the people he sees now, but he doesn't really think of the homeless man... In any case, I am glad that I have not experienced the things he has, but I admire him for doing it.
 
I know how holidays can bring out a lot of dark things in people. I went to the store for a few things and it was so crowded... everything sold out. It was ridiculous and there were people with empty shopping carts blocking all the aisles, just staring at shelves... no employees were there to answer where they moved their usual items for all the seasonal crap. I was eventually boiling over with anger and stress. I so just wanted to scream out, "get out of my ****ing way and move your ****ing cart." It was so annoying and stressful. What should have been 15 minutes of shopping was 45 minutes of walking around, bumping into strangers, and waiting in line. I hate the holidays because of stuff like that.

And that's another aspect of perfectionism and expectations. People SHOULD be nice around the holidays... but they're not. Things SHOULD be easy... but they're not. We SHOULD be able to get all of the presents that we need. These "SHOULDS" are what do us in. "Should" is another one of those "bad" words that I try to avoid and always confront in my practice. "Should" is not reality, but people often act like it is... and when our reality doesn't live up to our "should" reality, we often get depressed and/or feel like we failed or aren't good enough in some way.
 

I have one issue with the study. It only equates suicides/attempts and psychiatric admissions as a correlate to increased depression. I can tell you that during the last 3 weeks I have not admitted anyone to a psychiatric facility due to sucidality (I did admit one person because of alcoholism), nor have I had any client who has had a suicide attempt, completed or not. I HAVE noticed a decided increase in the level of depression of my clients. This is based on observation, self-reporting, and assessment. Increased depression does not always manifest itself in suicidality.
 
not always true. I knew a guy who had ALS who killed himself. It saved his family from having to both see him waste away for another one or two years, and the expense of round the clock nursing care.

My dad died after a year long battle with a cancer he contracted from smoking that was in his sinuses, throat etc. He gradually lost his ability to speak, then had to have a trach tube, which caused a massive MERSA infection (the tube put in at the ER room was not properly sterilized according to his main doctor) that ultimately killed him. Four days before he died he wrote a note saying "Give me your Beretta". ( the gun I carried at the time) I wouldn't but I can understand how some people would want to end a no win situation under somewhat their own terms.

I wouldn't have seen a suicide by my father at that time as selfish

On the other hand, my mother contracted pneumonia a year later and refused treatment despite the fact that even with COPD and a poorly healed shoulder fracture 6 years before she died, she still had pretty good quality of life. I really was bitter when she died because she took from my son his only remaining grandmother and unlike her other grandkids-two of whom lived thousand of miles away and another two who really didn't like going to her home (she was a smoker and it really bothered them) He really enjoyed her company and spent hours each week with her and he had a hard time dealing with that especially after he saw his grandfather fight hard to stay alive until (as I noted) four days before he died and after the doctors told him that they could not stop the infection


your right of course, I guess sometime sits very easy to judge the dead.
 
I used to date a girl in college who told me her dad tried that when she was driving, she pulled over and talked to him for a bit until he snapped out of it. Sounds like this person just made up her mind and did it. Really sad story and probably could have been avoided if she had just talked to somebody.
 
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