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Just Plain Wrong

Its really stupid to use children for this purpose.
It was very emotional.
Michele your the one that needs fixing
And no son, your mom does not need any "fixing"
 
buck said:
Putting her needs above the child's. The child was obviously not comfortable with it, but the mother thought she could score some political points for her cause.
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Yeah, like that never happens in childhood. Parents never get children to do something they don't like. Next you'll be complaining when they force kids to dress in a suit and go to church.
 
Empirica said:
Being an intelligent woman who loves children, she was more than likely shocked that this mother would place her very young son in such an ackward position that he was obviously very uncomfortable with.
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No doubt she was struggling with how to pray the gay away for this mother.

Honestly, give it a rest. Bachmann is an intolerant right wing loon. The absolutely idiocy that comes out of this woman's mouth is often simply indefensible. And yet there are righties here that rush in to defend insanity. God Bless America.
 
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Gina said:
That's very possibly what happened, he expressed it at home and so she might have wanted to give him an opportunity to tell Bachmann in person, his mom doesn't need fixing.

He's bit young to face a stranger like that, so it wouldn't have been my choice, but I agree with you, that may have been the situation. Kids can want to stand up for their parents.
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i really dont think 8 year old boys like to go around and tell strangers that their mommy likes to paddle canoes.......
 
Top Cat said:
No doubt she was struggling with how to pray the gay away for this mother.

Honestly, give it a rest. Bachmann is an intolerant right wing loon. The absolutely idiocy that comes out of this woman's mouth is often simply indefensible. And yet there are righties here that rush in to defend insanity. God Bless America.
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Hold on....some righties. I lean more right than left and I can't stand the woman. And I can name 8-10 more non-hack right-leaning posters who'd agree with me, I'm sure. Let's not get into unapplicable generalizations, now.
 
Empirica said:
Study the definition below and make the connection yourself___If you fail to see it then I certainly can't help you.

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[url=http://www.thefreedictionary.com/selfish]selfish - definition of selfish by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.[/url]
selfish [ˈsɛlfɪʃ]
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1. chiefly concerned with one's own interest, advantage, etc., esp to the total exclusion of the interests of others
2. relating to or characterized by self-interest
I seriously doubt that Mrs Bachmann was in the least bit embarrassed.

Being an intelligent woman who loves children, she was more than likely shocked that this mother would place her very young son in such an ackward position that he was obviously very uncomfortable with.
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I'm guessing you are right regarding Bachmann not being embarrassed. To be embarrassed requires some integrity and empathy and a conscience. Robots are hardly ever embarrassed.
 
Empirica said:
Study the definition below and make the connection yourself___If you fail to see it then I certainly can't help you.
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So you don't see how it could be anything other than pure selfishness?
 
Empirica said:
I'm sorry___I wasn't aware that Saturday Nite Live had added Michelle Bachmann to the Stupid List along with Sarah Palin.

I really should try harder to keep up with the politicly neutral opinions of those intelligent mainstream media comedians and actors.
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Nice straw man.
 
misterman said:
Yeah, like that never happens in childhood. Parents never get children to do something they don't like. Next you'll be complaining when they force kids to dress in a suit and go to church.
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So, you think it's fine for a mom to use her kids for political purposes. If you do fine. I happen to disagree. From what I have read, it seems a majority (of all political stripes) agree with me. So, im in pretty good company.
 
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Empirica said:
This was plastered at the top of the Yahoo web page when I clicked on___It made me angry when I watched it, which is an emotion I rarely experience.

It's quite obvious this timid little boy is very uncomfortable with the situation his selfish and insensitive mother has forced upon him and possibly even embarrassed by her lifestyle.




Don't get me wrong, whatever sick perversions she enjoys behind closed doors with another consenting adult is nobodies business but her young son shouldn't be forced to legitimize it.

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Just another case of the people wanting what they want when they want it and they dont care how they get it....this is utterly dispicable...to use the kid as a "TOOL" your mom does need fixing kid if not for nothing else she needs to be fixed that you shouldnt be used as a dishrag
 
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tessaesque said:
The kid was used as a pawn and definitely shouldn't have been, but your views on homosexuality are disgusting.
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Her views are her views...just like yours are...
 
buck said:
So, you think it's fine for a mom to use her kids for political purposes. If you do fine. I happen to disagree.
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So you're shocked and disgusted when we make kids say the pledge of allegience every day in school?

I think the mom is teaching the kid how to speak up, even to authority figures, and right and wrong. That's a good lesson.

It's not much different from church. Kids are being "used" in all kinds of rituals and made to say all sorts of things they don't understand there.
 
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jimbo said:
That is nonsense, and smacks of looking for an excuse for the acts of a person interested in furthering their agenda. 8 year old kids to not know enough about politics or sex to make an educated statement. Mom is wrong, and is not furthering the belief that same sex situations produce well adjusted kids.
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Really? Is it completely outrageous? Really?? It's completely outside of the realm of possibility? Elijah most likely knows that his mommy is gay and knows that some people don't like people who are gay; 8 year olds are not brainless. Furthermore, it doesn't require Elijah having a bachelor's degree in political science to know when people are attacking his mom, even though he probably doesn't fully grasp the entire concept.

Besides, I wasn't saying it was The Truth. I was playing Devil's Advocate and saying maybe it was possible. I still think it was in poor taste to use the kid in a political way, but all I'm saying let's not jump to the worst case scenario.
 
misterman said:
So you're shocked and disgusted when we make kids say the pledge of allegience every day in school?

I think the mom is teaching the kid how to speak up, even to authority figures, and right and wrong. That's a good lesson.

It's not much different from church. Kids are being "used" in all kinds of rituals and made to say all sorts of things they don't understand there.
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I think it's wrong for a parent to use their kids in this way. I would think it's wrong for a parent to have their 8 year old kid used for political purposes wether its a cause I agree or disagree with. You are free to disagree. The world is filled with screwed up kids. So there are obviously a bunch of parents that agree with the way you would choose to use a child in an appeal to emotion for a political cause.
 
Empirica said:
I'm sorry___I wasn't aware that Saturday Nite Live had added Michelle Bachmann to the Stupid List along with Sarah Palin.

I really should try harder to keep up with the politicly neutral opinions of those intelligent mainstream media comedians and actors.
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Michele Bachmann's stupidity should be self-evident. If it isn't obvious to you, I'd say you have more serious problems on your own hands.
 
Your Star said:
You don't need a comedian or an actor to tell you she's stupid, you just have to listen to the stupid **** that comes out of her own mouth.
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Like what?
 
lpast said:
Her views are her views...just like yours are...
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Hey, I didn't tell her not to have those beliefs. I just said they were disgusting. I totally accept that she believes what she believes..but that doesn't mean I have to accept the belief itself.
 
Your Star said:
And tess's views on homosexuality aren't disgusting, like Bachmann's are.
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Matter of opinion and everyones has the same value...
 
tessaesque said:
Hey, I didn't tell her not to have those beliefs. I just said they were disgusting. I totally accept that she believes what she believes..but that doesn't mean I have to accept the belief itself.
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Nor she yours...this isnt a we are going to bogart you into saying what WE WANT YOU TO SAY..because thats what all threads about homosexuality seem to be like on this forum....and I dont buy it for one second
 
Empirica, I dont agree with your definitions...but I believe in your right to have them...dont let the pro everything homosexual cheerleading squad on dps bogart you into being silent or changing your view UNLESS YOU WANT TO...
Personally the more they play the jump down your throat crap...the more Im going to tell them what I think...whether they like it or not...NO ONE is going to shove what they believe down my throat and try to stifle my opinion by meaningless aggressive abuse...PERIOD...and theres a few overbearing quite the obnoxious individuals that try to do that in every one of these threads...you will NEVER get an inch from me..UNLESS I decide to give it...and I aint decided
Dont like that im not for homosexual marriage ? dont like me because Im not for homosexual marriage...GOOD...now ask me if I care..
 
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buck said:
I've never heard of conrbread pancakes. Just thought it would be fun to start the argument.

Potato pancakes are yummy, though. As a Jew, I will readily admit there are very few good jew food. Potato Pancakes, lox and bagel, and gefilte fish are pretty much the extent of it. The rest. Yuck!
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Yeah, I'm a gentile and I've sampled some Hebrew cuisine. I must say, a lot of it is an.... acquired taste, let's say. But hey, I'm Swedish so who am I to talk about unusual cuisine? I mean, surströmming? No thanks.

But seriously, try some cornbread pancakes. If you like cornbread, and you like pancakes, you're gonna love 'em. Delicious.
 
lpast said:
Empirica, I dont agree with your definitions...but I believe in your right to have them...dont let the pro everything homosexual cheerleading squad on dps bogart you into being silent or changing your view UNLESS YOU WANT TO...
Personally the more they play the jump down your throat crap...the more Im going to tell them what I think...whether they like it or not...NO ONE is going to shove what they believe down my throat and try to stifle my opinion by meaningless aggressive abuse...PERIOD...and theres a few overbearing quite the obnoxious individuals that try to do that in every one of these threads...you will NEVER get an inch from me..UNLESS I decide to give it...and I aint decided
Dont like that im not for homosexual marriage ? dont like me because Im not for homosexual marriage...GOOD...now ask me if I care..
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Translation; Don't ever stop being homophobic! Stay strong! Don't let them fool into having a ounce of compassion for an oppressed section of society!
 
RadicalModerate said:
Translation; Don't ever stop being homophobic! Stay strong! Don't let them fool into having a ounce of compassion for an oppressed section of society!
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Stick the homophobic crap that doesnt work with me....and I wouldnt waste a breath defending myself against that garbage simpleton accusation thats used for everything.
Ever since ive been on this forum there has been a level of attempted intimidation against anyone that has a differing view on anything homosexual..its brings out the same faces in a group fap against ANYONE THAT DARES TO TRY TO DEFY the homosexual cheerleading community on DPS....having your view is fine...and anyone else having a differing view has that coming too...so you can take your aggressive group jumps down the throat of any DPS member that DARES DEFY the pro homosexual marriage crowd...pffffffffft....ive had enough of it.
 
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