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Translation; Don't ever stop being homophobic! Stay strong! Don't let them fool into having a ounce of compassion for an oppressed section of society!

I get so tired of the term "homophobic" being thrown around. Somebody's not approving with homosexuality doesn't mean the person is irrationally fearful.

With a notable exception being teenagers, I don't know any gay people who are "oppressed." I do know a lot of gay people who are happy, well-adjusted, successful people with families and hosts of friends who adore them. Interestingly, their homosexuality isn't their raison d'etre; it's just a facet of who they are. In my world, nobody cares who's straight or gay. Are you a decent person? A good neighbor? Someone who pulls his/her weight at work?
 
I get so tired of the term "homophobic" being thrown around. Somebody's not approving with homosexuality doesn't mean the person is irrationally fearful.

With a notable exception being teenagers, I don't know any gay people who are "oppressed." I do know a lot of gay people who are happy, well-adjusted, successful people with families and hosts of friends who adore them. Interestingly, their homosexuality isn't their raison d'etre; it's just a facet of who they are. In my world, nobody cares who's straight or gay. Are you a decent person? A good neighbor? Someone who pulls his/her weight at work?

Im tired of the homophobe garbage thrown around...but whats more abhorrent to me is that if your against Homosexual Marriage...YOU HAVE TO BE A HOMOPHOBE and YOU HAVE TO HATE GAYS...that is just a huge pile of horse dung
I have absolutely NOTHING against Homosexuals and I know MANY of them throughout my life...
My issue is this forum with their cheerleading crowd that swoops down and swarms and tries to intimidate anyone that doesnt POST PRECISELY what they want to hear....and jumps on people and tries to stifle them...that is garbage and Ive fought that kind of bully crap all my life and I aint stopping now...like or LUMP IT...
 
Like what?

Some of these are just silly mistakes. Others are horrifying, idiotic statements that show she's a complete lunatic:

1."I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?' Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending." –Rep. Michele Bachmann, suggesting at a presidential campaign event in Florida that the 2011 East Coast earthquake and hurricane was a message from God (Aug. 2011)

2. "Well what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too" -Rep. Michele Bachmann, getting her John Waynes mixed up during an interview after launching her presidential campaign in Waterloo, Iowa, where she grew up. The beloved movie star John Wayne was born in Winterset, Iowa, three hours away. The John Wayne that Waterloo was home to is John Wayne Gacy, a notorious serial killer. (June 2011)

3. "I will tell you that I had a mother last night come up to me here in Tampa, Florida, after the debate. She told me that her little daughter took that vaccine, that injection, and she suffered from mental retardation thereafter." –Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), on the HPV vaccine, Fox News interview, Sept. 12, 2011

4. "Why should I go and do something like that? But the Lord says, 'Be submissive wives; you are to be submissive to your husbands." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, recalling in a 2006 speech at a Megachurch in Minneapolis that pursuing tax law wasn't her choice, but she did so at the urging of her husband because she was certain God was speaking through him

5. "I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out: Are they pro-America or anti-America?" -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, calling for a new McCarthyism, Oct. 2008

6. "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, on the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak that happened when Gerald Ford, a Republican, was president, April 28, 2009

7. "Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009

8. "If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." -Michele Bachmann, Jan. 2005

9. "But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States. ... I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forbearers who worked tirelessly -- men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, botching American history while speaking at an Iowan's for Tax Relief event in January 2011. The Founding Fathers did not work to end slavery, and John Quincy Adams was not one of the Founding Fathers.

10. "Before we get started, let's all say 'Happy Birthday' to Elvis Presley today." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, while campaigning for president in South Carolina on what was actually the anniversary of Elvis's death, Aug. 16, 2011 (Elvis was born on January 8)
 
Even it wasn't his idea to say it, Bachmann's husband's "business" is to "fix" gays.
His mommy doesn't need fixing, just as Bachmann's husband doesn't.
 
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Hold on....some righties. Let's not get into unapplicable generalizations, now. I le

Where exactly was I something less than accurate? Need I define the word "Some" for you? One need only look at any Bachmann thread. There are "Some" righties here that defend her. My comment stands on its own merit.
 
Stick the homophobic crap that doesnt work with me....and I wouldnt waste a breath defending myself against that garbage simpleton accusation thats used for everything.
Ever since ive been on this forum there has been a level of attempted intimidation against anyone that has a differing view on anything homosexual..its brings out the same faces in a group fap against ANYONE THAT DARES TO TRY TO DEFY the homosexual cheerleading community on DPS....having your view is fine...and anyone else having a differing view has that coming too...so you can take your aggressive group jumps down the throat of any DPS member that DARES DEFY the pro homosexual marriage crowd...pffffffffft....ive had enough of it.

So basically it's 100% okay for Empirica to say that this woman and/or her lifestyle is disgusting, abhorrent, or any other rude, aggressive thing she wants...but when we point out how disgusting that kind of ignorance and intolerance really is, that's not okay? That's basically what you're saying here. You/she/anybody can sit here and ridicule homosexuals all day, but when somebody wants to point out how incredibly immoral and wrong that mindset is then THEY'RE the ones in the wrong? How incredibly warped.
 
I'm a huge advocate of gay rights and I'm outspoken about it. I don't have much respect for Michelle Bachman, either. However, I find this a distasteful stunt. It was filmed and shared and advocated. The child wasn't simply being taught to stand up for something, he was being taught to make a show and having himself put all over the internet.

I will point out that I would find it just as disgusting if it was reversed, if it was done to any other political figure and no matter what the cause that was being advocated. I would never make the same choice for my son.

In short, I advocate the message, but I'm very put off by the delivery method.
 
Im tired of the homophobe garbage thrown around...but whats more abhorrent to me is that if your against Homosexual Marriage...YOU HAVE TO BE A HOMOPHOBE and YOU HAVE TO HATE GAYS...that is just a huge pile of horse dung
I have absolutely NOTHING against Homosexuals and I know MANY of them throughout my life...
My issue is this forum with their cheerleading crowd that swoops down and swarms and tries to intimidate anyone that doesnt POST PRECISELY what they want to hear....and jumps on people and tries to stifle them...that is garbage and Ive fought that kind of bully crap all my life and I aint stopping now...like or LUMP IT...

Empiricia called homosexuality a "sick perversion". That's homophobia, plain and simple. You told her to keep her homophobic beliefs, regardless of what others say. Now who's cheerleading?

Empirica, you do realize homosexuality is more than just the gay sex part, right?
 
I get so tired of the term "homophobic" being thrown around. Somebody's not approving with homosexuality doesn't mean the person is irrationally fearful.

Emirica's comments were straight up homophobic. Are you gonna tell me calling someone's lifestyle a "sick perversion" is not a form of hatred towards them?

With a notable exception being teenagers, I don't know any gay people who are "oppressed."

I suppose the fact that gay people's civil rights are being violated in the form of legislation specifically curtailing the rights that straight people enjoy isn't a form of oppression? That's a government singling out a specific group of American citizens and creating laws designed to keep them at a lower level than others. That's a direct violation of the Constitution.

I do know a lot of gay people who are happy, well-adjusted, successful people with families and hosts of friends who adore them. Interestingly, their homosexuality isn't their raison d'etre; it's just a facet of who they are. In my world, nobody cares who's straight or gay. Are you a decent person? A good neighbor? Someone who pulls his/her weight at work?

Are you purposefully ignoring the painfully obvious here?

"What do those gays needs all of their civil rights for? I mean, they're not being lynched too often or being run out of town or having sodomy laws being wielded against them anymore! Geez, what more do they want?!"
 
So, you think it's fine for a mom to use her kids for political purposes. If you do fine. I happen to disagree. From what I have read, it seems a majority (of all political stripes) agree with me. So, im in pretty good company.

Sarah Palin wrote the book on using your kids for political purposes. Hell, she even used her pregnant, unmarried daughter.

But I'm sure you protested loudly about that.
 
Some of these are just silly mistakes. Others are horrifying, idiotic statements that show she's a complete lunatic:

1."I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?' Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending." –Rep. Michele Bachmann, suggesting at a presidential campaign event in Florida that the 2011 East Coast earthquake and hurricane was a message from God (Aug. 2011)

2. "Well what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too" -Rep. Michele Bachmann, getting her John Waynes mixed up during an interview after launching her presidential campaign in Waterloo, Iowa, where she grew up. The beloved movie star John Wayne was born in Winterset, Iowa, three hours away. The John Wayne that Waterloo was home to is John Wayne Gacy, a notorious serial killer. (June 2011)

3. "I will tell you that I had a mother last night come up to me here in Tampa, Florida, after the debate. She told me that her little daughter took that vaccine, that injection, and she suffered from mental retardation thereafter." –Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), on the HPV vaccine, Fox News interview, Sept. 12, 2011

4. "Why should I go and do something like that? But the Lord says, 'Be submissive wives; you are to be submissive to your husbands." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, recalling in a 2006 speech at a Megachurch in Minneapolis that pursuing tax law wasn't her choice, but she did so at the urging of her husband because she was certain God was speaking through him

5. "I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out: Are they pro-America or anti-America?" -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, calling for a new McCarthyism, Oct. 2008

6. "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, on the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak that happened when Gerald Ford, a Republican, was president, April 28, 2009

7. "Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009

8. "If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." -Michele Bachmann, Jan. 2005

9. "But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States. ... I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forbearers who worked tirelessly -- men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, botching American history while speaking at an Iowan's for Tax Relief event in January 2011. The Founding Fathers did not work to end slavery, and John Quincy Adams was not one of the Founding Fathers.

10. "Before we get started, let's all say 'Happy Birthday' to Elvis Presley today." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, while campaigning for president in South Carolina on what was actually the anniversary of Elvis's death, Aug. 16, 2011 (Elvis was born on January 8)

This is why Bachmann is so popular with the great Republican unwashed. Because she's so appallingly stupid. They don't trust smart people, so Bachmann is like a holy figure to them. She's the opposite of smart.
 
Sarah Palin wrote the book on using your kids for political purposes. Hell, she even used her pregnant, unmarried daughter.

But I'm sure you protested loudly about that.

I never liked Sarah Palin. If she would have run, she would have been my very last choice of all the republican candidates (still ahead of democrats though). however, yes. it's very different. All politicians have their family on stage, including Obama.

The pregnant kid was also old enough to have a clue of what she was taking about, quite different then placing an 8 year old who is clearly uncomfortable and probably coerced to ask a question that he can't possibly completely understand just to make the mother feel better.

I don't expect that she will have the down sydrome son going up to whatever democrat is in charge in 6 years and ask why he should be aborted. If she does, let me know and you have my promise that I will be just against that as I am in this case.
 
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I am not a bachman fan at all...actually i dont like her...but you can make a list just as long about any other politician

So instead of addressing even one of her comments, you choose to summarily dismiss everything she has ever said? I suggest you are in fact a fan. So how easy that is?
 
All politicians have their family on stage, including Obama.

Sarah Palin did more than "introduce her family on stage". If only she stopped there? No, she had to present her daughter and her 'Fiance" as the All American couple...instead of the true train wreck they were. And if that wasn't enough, she takes her baby out on stage at 11:30 at night at the RNC. Really? That's "normal"?
 
Sarah Palin did more than "introduce her family on stage". If only she stopped there? No, she had to present her daughter and her 'Fiance" as the All American couple...instead of the true train wreck they were. And if that wasn't enough, she takes her baby out on stage at 11:30 at night at the RNC. Really? That's "normal"?

Yes, it's normal for the kids to be on stage. Obama's kids were on stage at the DNC when he accepted the nomination. I see nothing wrong with having a baby on stage. One thing you learn, is that most babies can sleep anywhere.

Look at all these times Obama's kids were on stage - someone take those kids away, right?
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Putting a kid on stage to celebrate the accomplishments of a parent is entirely different then asking an obviously uncomfrotable child to fight your political battles for you.
 
Translation; Don't ever stop being homophobic! Stay strong! Don't let them fool into having a ounce of compassion for an oppressed section of society!
Oh please, give me a break___"Those people" are the most catered to group in america___They get their butts kissed even more than the minority races.

As a libertarian, I support their right to practice their sick perversions in the privacy of their home with other consenting perverts, but for christ sake stop trying to shove your lifestyle down everybody elses throat.
 
If that little boy was coerced into doing this, then it was wrong. Looking at the video, I saw normal timidity and awe at all the lights, cameras, and this strange lady. What I didn't see were the tell-tale signs of a rehearsed statement which means to me this boy may have done this on his own.

As for Palin, I was appalled by how she use her children in 2008. I was appalled when Bill and Hillary had Chelsea with them when Clinton admitted to the affair with Monica on live TV. The Obamas have kept their daughters out of the limelight for the most part as did the Nixons, Kennedys and Clintons.
 
Oh please, give me a break___"Those people" are the most catered to group in america___They get their butts kissed even more than the minority races.

Really? Then why was it just until recently they couldn't actually serve openly in the military? Why is it that they can't get married in the vast majority of states?

As a libertarian, I support their right to practice their sick perversions in the privacy of their home with other consenting perverts, but for christ sake stop trying to shove your lifestyle down everybody elses throat.

Nobody is forcing you to lick another girl's clit. The only thing gay folks are shoving down other people's throat is themselves and each other.
 
Bachman's homophobia notwithstanding, I felt really, really sorry for that kid.
 
What I'm curious about on this thread is how many of those opining actually have kids.
 
Bachman's homophobia notwithstanding, I felt really, really sorry for that kid.

I would've felt bad for the kid if he had burst into tears. He turned out alright. Not that I approve of his mom doing what she did.
 
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