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Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

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This is unbelievable!!!

Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed | Video Cafe


A woman who was pepper sprayed during during a raid on Occupy Seattle last week is blaming police after she miscarried Sunday.

Jennifer Fox, 19, told The Stranger that she had been with the Occupy protests since they started in Westlake Park. She said she was homeless and three months pregnant, but felt the need to join activists during their march last Tuesday.

"I was standing in the middle of the crowd when the police started moving in," Fox recalled. "I was screaming, 'I am pregnant, I am pregnant. Let me through. I am trying to get out.'"

She claimed that police hit her in the stomach twice before pepper spraying her. One officer struck her with his foot and another pushed his bicycle into her. It wasn't clear if either of those incidents were intentional."Right before I turned, both cops lifted their pepper spray and sprayed me. My eyes puffed up and my eyes swelled shut," Fox said.

Seattle Post-Intelligencer photographer Joshua Trujillo snapped a picture of Fox in apparent agony as another activist carried her to an ambulance.Seattle fire department spokesman Kyle Moore told The Washington Post that a 19-year-old pregnant woman was among those that were examined by paramedics.

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Rut roh. This is what I was arguing with others about. It's all fun and games until someone has an asthma attack and dies, or some lady has a miscarriage. I don't suppose conservatives will much care, even though they are "pro-life" or whatever (since they seem to think pepper spraying large groups of people who are sitting down is funny), but the city of Seattle will start to care as the lawsuits pour in.
 
This is too much "he said, she said" for me at the moment. I will be interested to hear the outcome of the case, however. No matter the cause, miscarriage is tragic and I feel awful for this woman and the pain she must be going through. The loss of a child, born or not, is one of the worst possible pains someone can go through.
 
Why was she even there? I would think the safety of her baby would take priority over her politics. She had to know that the chance of a dust up was purdy good.

Sounds like she has the parental skills of a ****ing house cat.

This is prime example of how the occu-tards want to be relieved all their pesonal responsibility.
 
Why was she even there? I would think the safety of her baby would take priority over her politics. She had to know that the chance of a dust up was purdy good.

Sounds like she has the parental skills of a ****ing house cat.

This is prime example of how the occu-tards want to be relieved all their pesonal responsibility.

You literally know nothing about this lady. Go away.
 
This is prime example of how the occu-tards want to be relieved all their pesonal responsibility.
Nevermind the responsibility of the police to refrain from beating pregnant women.

I would think the safety of her baby would take priority over her politics.
She's apparently a homeless pregnant women. I would say the welfare of her baby depends a lot upon the priorities of politics.
 
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You literally know nothing about this lady. Go away.

I know from the article that she is pregnant and homeless and put herself in a situation which represented a high possibility of damage to her unborn child. Doesn't demonstrate good prenatal care or concern for the future of the child.
 
You literally know nothing about this lady. Go away.

And neither do you, but somehow you know anything she says must just be the gospel truth? Certainly no motive for lying here. LOL

It's funny, the lady was supposedly 3 months pregnant and homeless but the miscarriage is caused by the pepper spray?
 
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And neither do you.

It's funny, the lady was supposedly 3 months pregnant and homeless but the miscarriage is caused by the pepper spray? LOL, no doubt anything she says must just be the gospel truth.

Where did I say gospel truth? In fact, you'll never find me saying I take her at her word for anything (other than the lawsuits are about to start pouring in at the OWS cities). It's great that conservatives say they are prolife, but in a case like this, it is much easier to dismiss the lady and assume she deserved it, right?

How low do you have to get to insult her, X-Factor (you as in anyone, not you specifically)?
 
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This is unbelievable!!!

Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed | Video Cafe


A woman who was pepper sprayed during during a raid on Occupy Seattle last week is blaming police after she miscarried Sunday.

Jennifer Fox, 19, told The Stranger that she had been with the Occupy protests since they started in Westlake Park. She said she was homeless and three months pregnant, but felt the need to join activists during their march last Tuesday.

"I was standing in the middle of the crowd when the police started moving in," Fox recalled. "I was screaming, 'I am pregnant, I am pregnant. Let me through. I am trying to get out.'"

She claimed that police hit her in the stomach twice before pepper spraying her. One officer struck her with his foot and another pushed his bicycle into her. It wasn't clear if either of those incidents were intentional."Right before I turned, both cops lifted their pepper spray and sprayed me. My eyes puffed up and my eyes swelled shut," Fox said.

Seattle Post-Intelligencer photographer Joshua Trujillo snapped a picture of Fox in apparent agony as another activist carried her to an ambulance.Seattle fire department spokesman Kyle Moore told The Washington Post that a 19-year-old pregnant woman was among those that were examined by paramedics.

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Hummm, according to the story she was screaming that she was pregnant and to be "let out". Why didn't the protesters get out of her way?
 
Alright. Might take a little flak for this one.

Now I'm not saying a miscarriage isn't a tragic event by any means, but 19, homeless, and pregnant? That's just not a winning formula. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.
 
Why was she even there? I would think the safety of her baby would take priority over her politics. She had to know that the chance of a dust up was purdy good.

Sounds like she has the parental skills of a ****ing house cat.

This is prime example of how the occu-tards want to be relieved all their pesonal responsibility.

This is a prime example of the lengths that people will go to in order to blame the protestors in any case.
 
Where did I say gospel truth? In fact, you'll never find me saying I take her at her word for anything (other than the lawsuits are about to start pouring in at the OWS cities). It's great that conservatives say they are prolife, but in a case like this, it is much easier to dismiss the lady and assume she deserved it, right?

How low do you have to get to insult her, X-Factor (you as in anyone, not you specifically)?

You posted with the assumption that she was telling the truth. You believe her only because you want to. If there was some blog entry saying it was an OWS protester that kicked a pregnant woman, would your initial response be, "ah oh, OWS really screwed the pooch on this"? I think we both know the answer.
 
You posted with the assumption that she was telling the truth. You believe her only because you want to. If there was some blog entry saying it was an OWS protester that kicked a pregnant woman, would your initial response be, "ah oh, OWS really screwed the pooch on this"? I think we both know the answer.

From my first post it could look that way, but if you really look at it, I never said I believed it. I just said it's all fun and games until someone miscarries and then the lawsuits begin - which is true. The fact is, if I was doing what apdst was doing, I'd say something like this:

"Those scumbag riot police ...". But I'm not a hack and I know that there is nothing but a ton of doubt in this case. Also, I am not pro-life - the type of person that would call someone who got raped a murderer if she aborted or chastise anyone about the importance of a fetus. But yet, here will come the conservative base, showing their true colors and not giving one **** about this lady because:

1) She's poor
2) She was at an OWS protest

The hypocrisy in this entire thing is so glaring it's funny that you don't see it.
 
It does have an air of... bull****? ... to it.

Good grief, WSS, could you be more obvious? As long as it was law enforcement who might have done something, she's being truthful, but if it might make the protesters look bad, it's "bull****"?
 
Good grief, WSS, could you be more obvious? As long as it was law enforcement who might have done something, she's being truthful, but if it might make the protesters look bad, it's "bull****"?

Dude, could you? I was saying the entire story has an air of bull****. You're so negative and defensive about the entire pepper spraying events that you can't even have a normal discussion anymore.
 
As I said elsewhere, pepper spray is no weapon, it's a spice.
Stand still X-Factor, and I will spice you right up with some pepper oil and then you can tell me how warm and fuzzy it makes you feel.

I hope someone get video of what actually happened.
 
identify the hypocrite members who blame the victim of a police induced miscarriage in this thread, who will be found opposing abortion in other threads
 
Stand still X-Factor, and I will spice you right up with some pepper oil and then you can tell me how warm and fuzzy it makes you feel.

The absurdity of that point is actually best demonstrated by either saying "OK, then you should be fine if all police officers have their pepper spray replaced with oregano since it's really just swapping spices." or "A leg of lamb is just food up until I use it to bludgeon somebody senseless, at which point it becomes a weapon."

I prefer the former, myself. How different would these pepper spraying incidents be if the cops were simply sprinkling oregano on people?
 
Regardless of the way the events unfolded this is an unfortunate and sad event.

Her story...which sorry, I don't take the cops NOR the occupiers stories during this as any kind of accurate truth, especially when the occupiers are actively pushing a political agenda and thus are more apt to present a situation in a way that suits said agenda...leaves a lot of questions up in the air. For all those getting on the cops and their supposed actions, my question would equally be with regards to the OWS protesters who apparently would hear her shouting and not go out of their way to make way to let her out, shield her, or escort her out of the group herself. Not to mention, both for the cops and the protestors, its not always easy to see someone 3 months pregnant as being visably pregnant and in the midst of a big mash of humanity its not hard to miss random shouts or miss who those shouts are coming from.

The questions to her own judgement are legitimate as well. If you're truly concerned with your child, why are you going to a protest that you know around the country has gotten volatile at times and especially on your particular coat? Why are you, once going to said protest, moving towards the middle of large groups rather than staying on the outside where you are not going to get jostled and bumped into? I fail to believe the situation went from 0 to pepper spray and booting in 3 seconds flat, so why was she still hanging about during the ramp up. Her judgement is questionable here in regards to how seriously concerned she was for the health of the child in the first place.

The pepper spray from the part of the cops, by and large I'd rather see less use of it. That said, I've known enough people I trust and heard enough about mass crowd type situations to understand that there's a lot of monday morning quarterbacking that can go on. I hope in all these situations, as time moves forward, reviews will be done to see that action was taken appropriately. However, the cops are being thrown in bad spots with this whole thing.

Really, the situation is tragic all around. If she truly wanted to keep the child, even more so. I hope she recovers alright.
 
identify the hypocrite members who blame the victim of a police induced miscarriage in this thread, who will be found opposing abortion in other threads

Identify the hyper partisan members who will take two different situations (an unintentional termination of a pregnancy and the intentional termination of one) and treat them like the same thing to score political points.
 
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