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Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

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Police Use Pepper Spray, Rubber Bullets on Occupy Denver Protesters Trying to Storm Capitol | Video | TheBlaze.com

Police used pepper spray and rubber bullets to try to quell an Occupy Denver demonstration Saturday as protesters attempted to occupy the state Capitol building.

The Denver Post reported seven arrests were made, including two for assault and one for disobedience. Police confirmed pepper spray and either rubber bullets or pepper balls were used to break up the crowd, which may have numbered up to 2,000.
Lt. Matt Murray with the Denver Police told the Post some protesters received medical treatment at the scene, but no one had been taken to the hospital.
Police and protesters clash on the steps of the state Capitol building. (Denver Post)


Murray said one officer was knocked off his motorcycle and others were attacked and kicked by protesters...

This violence has got to stop. These people need to calm down and do something productive instead of provoking the police.
 
Productive? They should hold an occupy the showers protest and stop making their cities smell like grungy hipsters. :mrgreen:
 
Police Use Pepper Spray, Rubber Bullets on Occupy Denver Protesters Trying to Storm Capitol | Video | TheBlaze.com

Police used pepper spray and rubber bullets to try to quell an Occupy Denver demonstration Saturday as protesters attempted to occupy the state Capitol building.

The Denver Post reported seven arrests were made, including two for assault and one for disobedience. Police confirmed pepper spray and either rubber bullets or pepper balls were used to break up the crowd, which may have numbered up to 2,000.
Lt. Matt Murray with the Denver Police told the Post some protesters received medical treatment at the scene, but no one had been taken to the hospital.
Police and protesters clash on the steps of the state Capitol building. (Denver Post)


Murray said one officer was knocked off his motorcycle and others were attacked and kicked by protesters...

This violence has got to stop. These people need to calm down and do something productive instead of provoking the police.

This will have to escalate and continue - more violence or at least, more aggressive actions must be taken to keep these people in the public eye, to continue to claim to be the "victims" and to stay relevant. When Denver gets to -20 degrees, you'll see less and less protestors and this movement will go into hibernation. They MUST do these aggressive actions to stay relevant.
 
Police Use Pepper Spray, Rubber Bullets on Occupy Denver Protesters Trying to Storm Capitol | Video | TheBlaze.com

Police used pepper spray and rubber bullets to try to quell an Occupy Denver demonstration Saturday as protesters attempted to occupy the state Capitol building.

The Denver Post reported seven arrests were made, including two for assault and one for disobedience. Police confirmed pepper spray and either rubber bullets or pepper balls were used to break up the crowd, which may have numbered up to 2,000.
Lt. Matt Murray with the Denver Police told the Post some protesters received medical treatment at the scene, but no one had been taken to the hospital.
Police and protesters clash on the steps of the state Capitol building. (Denver Post)


Murray said one officer was knocked off his motorcycle and others were attacked and kicked by protesters...

This violence has got to stop. These people need to calm down and do something productive instead of provoking the police.

I think the movement's going in the right direction there -- at the government that's let all this happen. Bankers have paid plenty into the coffers on both sides of the aisle. It's time the Occupy movements realise this and direct their efforts where they'll do some good.

I wish them well in this particular endeavor. Protesting on Wall Street? Notsomuch.
 
Protesting government is fine....committing illegal acts and provoking the police to use force is NOT fine.
 
Protesting government is fine....committing illegal acts and provoking the police to use force is NOT fine.

And then complaining when the police are forced to act against you (them - whatever - you know what I mean)
 
And then complaining when the police are forced to act against you (them - whatever - you know what I mean)

How else can one claim to be victimized?
 
he Post described the scene as protesters tried to take the building:

When the demonstrators returned to the state Capitol, they marched up the steps. Officers in riot gear moved in and formed a line.

Some protesters pushed them while others joked with the officers.

People were screaming over each other. Some were dancing to a boombox, others were pounding on an unmarked patrol car.

Several were shouting “Storm that castle.“ Others were shooting ”Stay calm.”

Protesters toward the front started fighting with each other after one encouraged another protester to quit taunting police.

Some then started chanting, “We want the governor.“ Others shouted ”We want the steps.”

At one point, about eight police officers scuffled with a group of protesters.


A fine example of a mindless mob...
 
I don't get how provoking the police to use force like this is suppose to convince lawmakers - or the judiciary - to act.

Are they going to be like this for the next 10 years? Some of their demands can't possibly happen - even if everyone wanted it to - overnight.
 
Many of them want a revolution, not just for lawmakers to change their minds on some things. Many want to completely destroy the system as we know it. And these people seem to have a louder voice than the sane ones in the group.
 
Many of them want a revolution, not just for lawmakers to change their minds on some things. Many want to completely destroy the system as we know it. And these people seem to have a louder voice than the sane ones in the group.

Ain't you lucky that it's impossible for them to do that.
 
I think the movement's going in the right direction there -- at the government that's let all this happen. Bankers have paid plenty into the coffers on both sides of the aisle. It's time the Occupy movements realise this and direct their efforts where they'll do some good.

I wish them well in this particular endeavor. Protesting on Wall Street? Notsomuch.

If you don't mind, what precisely is to be achieved in reforming the legislative process, much less furthering a political position, by storming the State House in Denver, potentially to foment vandalism, using the power of a mob, and causing a scenario for injury regardless ?
 
[...] This violence has got to stop. [...]
You have provided no evidence of any violence (except by the police).

P.R. statements by police spokesmen are not evidence of violence.
 
Many of them want a revolution, not just for lawmakers to change their minds on some things. Many want to completely destroy the system as we know it. And these people seem to have a louder voice than the sane ones in the group.
Indeed.


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(Tea Party protester)​
 
I don't get how provoking the police to use force like this is suppose to convince lawmakers - or the judiciary - to act.

Are they going to be like this for the next 10 years? Some of their demands can't possibly happen - even if everyone wanted it to - overnight.

To really understand what is going on here, you have to look at Adbusters.

Their goal is the destruction of the capitalist system. They saw what happened in Egypt and are attempting to do the same here. They are using the useful idiots...with their mob dynamics...to promote conflict between the government and the protesters. They WANT it to escalate to the point that people get killed. They think that is the way to bring about the end of capitalism. They WANT the mob to be leaderless so we'll get these violent situations like Denver.

The media is playing into their hands by focusing on the mob...not those behind the mob.

I think one of two things will happen:

1. The useful idiots will get tired of being cold and dirty and will fade away.

2. Our government will shut down those behind the useful idiots.
 
If you don't mind, what precisely is to be achieved in reforming the legislative process, much less furthering a political position, by storming the State House in Denver, potentially to foment vandalism, using the power of a mob, and causing a scenario for injury regardless ?

My point is that it makes a heck of a lot more sense to protest to the government that made the abuse possible than it makes to nanny-nanny-booboo on Wall Street. (State government isn't the bad guy here...it's the Fed's...but at least they're getting closer.)
 
You have provided no evidence of any violence (except by the police).

P.R. statements by police spokesmen are not evidence of violence.

Oh, for God's sake. What do you want? Forensics?
 
To those dismissing illegal acts from the protesters I will leave you with a reality check: If the police tell you that you have violated a law and vacate the area, you vacate the area. Failure to follow police commands ends in one of three possibilities 1) you get arrested 2) you get your ass kicked by the police 3) all of the above. The police have a job to do, that is enforce the law and it does not allow for whatever the hell you think passes as moral superiority(hint: You probably don't know what the hell is going on anyway or you would have taken a different route to begin with).

Next, your ideas do not make you immune to getting your ass kicked by the police and it doesn't dismiss charges......if you remain after a police warning you are wrong, you were actually wrong to begin with which is why you were warned to begin with. Pepper/freeze spray hurts, it's supposed to in order to either surpress the very stupid move of charging at or throwing objects towards police.....we'll call it anti-dummy spray. Less than lethal methods of crowd control such as tear gas, bean bag rounds, and rubber bullets are par for the course when you decide to try and riot, they hurt, they injure, they are supposed to but you complain that they hurt and you know what, we don't care because if you had done what you were told to begin with guess what.....they DON'T get used.....gasp.

Finally, if you had been in a less free country it wouldn't be simple injury you would be complaining about because they would have used real bullets, chlorine gas, or military vehicles to clear you out, that isn't simple injury......that's DEAD. So maybe.....just maybe stop whining because you are wrong, very wrong, and if you hadn't gone over your freedom of speech line you wouldn't be bleeding.

Have a nice day.
 
I wonder why the US doesn't respond more forcefully. Even the Tea Partiers aren't/weren't this violent. I mean, trying to storm the capitol? Assaulting the police? Fights, public indecency, drugs, where's the limit? Armed revolution? WTF?
Those people are crazy. They intentionally injured the police and ignored repeated warnings by the police, and because of a few bruises and a few "freedoms" gone, they're complaining.
Worthless ********ing brats. They should be thankful that the US isn't Iran or North Korea or a ROKMC camp.
 
I wonder why the US doesn't respond more forcefully. Even the Tea Partiers aren't/weren't this violent. I mean, trying to storm the capitol? Assaulting the police? Fights, public indecency, drugs, where's the limit? Armed revolution? WTF?
Those people are crazy. They intentionally injured the police and ignored repeated warnings by the police, and because of a few bruises and a few "freedoms" gone, they're complaining.
Worthless ********ing brats. They should be thankful that the US isn't Iran or North Korea or a ROKMC camp.
People have been killed worldwide for less than these people are complaining about, Tienanmin square for example. I'll also never forget this but it's a perfect example of some of the thinking of the more extreme in these protests: The MTV music awards a while back, Rage Against the Machine who are avowed communists(never stopped them from collecting royalties on their work though) who wrote tons of "talk tough" music were playing, the bassist climbs the rigging and is removed by police and arrested, during the arrest he starts screaming "you're hurting me, you're hurting me!" while he was in a simple, routine armlock. These "communists" who acted tough sure showed a bunch of manliness that day for sure(sarcasm off), but it spoke VOLUMES about the typical "revolutionary". Many of those in the protest think they are revolutionaries but have no clue of the brutality that comes with extreme change.
 
This will have to escalate and continue - more violence or at least, more aggressive actions must be taken to keep these people in the public eye, to continue to claim to be the "victims" and to stay relevant. When Denver gets to -20 degrees, you'll see less and less protestors and this movement will go into hibernation. They MUST do these aggressive actions to stay relevant.

They want to create a crisis that can be manipulated by the governement. "Never let a crisis go to waste", as some have said.
 
Impossible? Improbable, but not impossible.
I tend to agree, it only takes one instance for a country to think it's way of life is safe and guaranteed to allow us to be blindsided by tyranny. I mean, Venezuela thought they were fine until Hugo Chavez pulled his crap(may he suffer greatly).
 
To those dismissing illegal acts from the protesters I will leave you with a reality check: If the police tell you that you have violated a law and vacate the area, you vacate the area. Failure to follow police commands ends in one of three possibilities 1) you get arrested 2) you get your ass kicked by the police 3) all of the above. The police have a job to do, that is enforce the law and it does not allow for whatever the hell you think passes as moral superiority(hint: You probably don't know what the hell is going on anyway or you would have taken a different route to begin with).

Next, your ideas do not make you immune to getting your ass kicked by the police and it doesn't dismiss charges......if you remain after a police warning you are wrong, you were actually wrong to begin with which is why you were warned to begin with. Pepper/freeze spray hurts, it's supposed to in order to either surpress the very stupid move of charging at or throwing objects towards police.....we'll call it anti-dummy spray. Less than lethal methods of crowd control such as tear gas, bean bag rounds, and rubber bullets are par for the course when you decide to try and riot, they hurt, they injure, they are supposed to but you complain that they hurt and you know what, we don't care because if you had done what you were told to begin with guess what.....they DON'T get used.....gasp.

Finally, if you had been in a less free country it wouldn't be simple injury you would be complaining about because they would have used real bullets, chlorine gas, or military vehicles to clear you out, that isn't simple injury......that's DEAD. So maybe.....just maybe stop whining because you are wrong, very wrong, and if you hadn't gone over your freedom of speech line you wouldn't be bleeding.

Have a nice day.

It isn't always that black and white. We had the story a couple weeks ago where a police officer told a person standing in their own yard to leave the area and quit filming him.

The person didn't. Yes, they were arrested but the charges were dismissed. My point is to know your rights. Nobody has the right to tell anyone they can not enter a city building. A city official may very well instruct police officers to intervene. They may arrest you but you will have been perfectly within your rights. I agree that being violent is only going to backfire. It's never going to work. Showing the government falsely arresting people will do far more for the arguement.

Public officials often times forget that they are public officials.
 
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