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Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

I finally looked at the pics. Is there any verification that the rump shown is Gaddafi's? Seriously, that does not look like a 60 yo rump.

He's wearing clothes.

Or am I the only one who realized he was clad with woven threads?
 

First, those clips cannot be authenticated. Second, if you have a problem, call NATO, not the US. Third, why have you cut 99.9% of my post, pulled a partial segment of a sentence from it and refused to respond to the rest? It's annoying when people get on line demanding answers, then refuse to acknowledge the answers... because they know they cannot.

Disappointing. Not surprising, mind you, but disappointing, completely dishonest and in very bad form.
 
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In fact, you were so annoyingly disingenuious that I'm going to post my entire post to you, one I took time with and took great pains to address all of your demands, and show everyone what you were so afraid of responding to. The bolded sentence is the ONLY part of my post that you quoted. What courage.


Libya's case was very much like the Balkans. The US wasn't at war with Serbia either. Nor was the action taken in Kosovo a US action. It was a NATO action, although the US did take the lead in those attacks. Libya was also a NATO action; it, however, was not led by the US. It was led by France, Britain and Spain. You talk about the mentality of the US... it seems your mentality is to blame the US for the actions of other countries.



Because the US has enemies. Not artificial enemies. Real, honest-to-god enemies who call for our destruction, and attack US assets here and abroad. During President Reagan's reign, US barracks were attacked in Bierut, killing hundreds of soldiers. Libya supported terrorists to blow up a passenger jet over Lockerbie, killing hundreds of civilians. During the senior Bush administration, Iraq invaded a US ally, Kuwait, and repeatedly fired missiles at US aircraft afterward, in defiance of UN imposed no-fly zones. During the Clinton administration, Islamists terrorists detonated a bomb in the world trade center, killing and injuring civilians. Also during the Clinton administration, Serbia attempted to commit genocide on the Kosovars. Islamists blew up two US embassies in Africa, and attacked the USS Cole, killing and injuries dozens of US naval personnel. Iraq continued to fire at US military planes enforcing the no-fly zone. During George W. Bush's presidency, Islamists crashed 4 civilian passenger jets into the world trade center, the pentagon and the 4th attempt was thwarted by passengers. Need I go on?



I and many Americans were appalled by the invasion of Iraq. I still believe quite vehemently that it was illegal, and wrong.



That's BS. First, I have already explained that the Libyan operation was a NATO operation led by France, Britain and Spain, not the US, and occurred only because the Libyans in the east had already begun a bloody rebellion to which Gadaffi responded by using the Libyan airforce to drop bombs on civilian villages, and slaughter thousands. A few hundred people in Green Square does not represent the tens and hundreds of thousands Libyan rebels who had the city surrounded.



Which bombed civilians are we talking about, the one's Gadaffi used his air force to slaughter, the ones Gadaffi used his artillary to slaughter, the ones that the rebels slaughtered on their way to Tripoli, or the handful of casualties that resulted from the French and British led NATO forces that kept Gadaffi's airforce from committing even more atrocities against his own people. If the Libyans themselves, who are now showering NATO with gratitude, want payment, they can bill NATO for it... after which NATO will send them the bill for arming them and protecting them so they could take down a murderous dictator.

Really, your posts are so skewered by hate, misinformation or outright lies, and blind bigotry that they are completely devoid of logic.
 
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In fact, you were so annoyingly disingenuious that I'm going to post my entire post to you, one I took time with and took great pains to address all of your demands, and show everyone what you were so afraid of responding to. The bolded sentence is the ONLY part of my post that you quoted. What courage.

I love it when I get a chance to like a good post twice.
 
the justice is that the man who killed thousands and ruled with fear came to his end on his knees at the hands of the people he terrorised and died in agony.
That is not justice. It is revenge and against the rules of War. He was a prisoner of war and should have been taken care of
This video scared the public because they are not supposed to see this kind of thing, as far as they are concerned soldiers go and fight for them and are always true and just and everyone plays by the rules. Thats why when pictures of soldiers humilating and torturing POW'S or videos like this come out it scares people because they are used to seeing war though the eyes of the main stream media. War is brutal and gaddafi came to a brutal end.

Have you been a soldier or something. It is against International Law, was not needed and nothing is gained by it. It must be an embarrassment to all decent Libyans Most on line people I have seen have been whooping it up. I don't think anyone was scared, disgusted yes, scared no. There is no reason or excuse for how he was treated, Even though not a regular army they should have been told acceptable behaviour. Some are suggesting we ourselves should take some blame because of our involvement. We should have taught them better

problem is that its a big bad world out there and sometimes you have to sink to levels not socially acceptable in order to get the job done or send a messgae. End of the day its easy for you to sit back and judge these people but you never had to live under the ruthless rule of a dictator and you don't know what these guys went through to get this coward.

You suggesting the were mentally sick by that time. It was by where Gadaffis army had done most damage. However they were still acting as soldiers and should have been held back, There is a lot of truth now we will never know.
 
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First, those clips cannot be authenticated. Second, if you have a problem, call NATO, not the US. Third, why have you cut 99.9% of my post, pulled a partial segment of a sentence from it and refused to respond to the rest? It's annoying when people get on line demanding answers, then refuse to acknowledge the answers... because they know they cannot.

Disappointing. Not surprising, mind you, but disappointing, completely dishonest and in very bad form.
because your point of view of these lately wars is far away from my point of view.

You haven't been to Iraq at first days to see the 5 km of oil tank trucks autocade escorted by humvees and apaches. You haven't seen missiles throwed by US soldier at Tigris river to simple boats like they were playing video games.
US victory is based on army technology. In 1 on 1, US soldiers will stuck to shoot due to horrible things a war shows. It's easy to launch a missile and then to see at screen: Target destroyed. Send a soldier to see from close childrens with cutted legs and hands or simply a dead person. It is not like in movies.

You choose to believe CNN more then RT videos because this is how you have been growed up. It' like you choose: "i believe that coz my best friend told me. Since i trust him, i trust even what he said."

You choose to not believe Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen and others when they blame USA (CIA) for conspiracy with rebels made up by them.

It's all up to what you choose. If you choose to see a "truth" and not read a truth then this is not the way.
 
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I was aware of the British reaction to Dresden, that was kind of my point. The public often disgagree with severe action but you have to do what you have to do to get the job done. Dresden sent a message to the rest of the German army that if you keep fighting we will make sure you have no home to go back to.

If I remember Dresden produced no advantage at all. Here's the thing you say the public may disagree with things but then you say they are fine and they are torture and murder and against International Law. See if we don't stick to international law then why should we expect anyone else to.


As for not agreeing with my post that is fine, after all we cant all agree on everything! :)
I had only seen the post I replied to about Dresden. The other things were not sparked off by what you said.....though now I have read more they might be.;)

Anyway I am falling asleep. Will look in tomorrow
 
That is not justice. It is revenge and against the rules of War. He was a prisoner of war and should have been taken care of


Have you been a soldier or something. It is against International Law, was not needed and nothing is gained by it. It must be an embarrassment to all decent Libyans Most on line people I have seen have been whooping it up. I don't think anyone was scared, disgusted yes, scared no. There is no reason or excuse for how he was treated, Even though not a regular army they should have been told acceptable behaviour. Some are suggesting we ourselves should take some blame because of our involvement. We should have taught them better



You suggesting the were mentally sick by that time. It was by where Gadaffis army had done most damage. However they were still acting as soldiers and should have been held back, There is a lot of truth now we will never know.


Yes I served in the British Army and did a tour in Basra Iraq and im well aware of international law. International wrote by the west has no jurisdiction over this group of rebel fighters and as for whooping it up I would like you to show me where? Im indifferent not happy about this death but im not about to judge their actions as I know nothing about them and know very little about what they have expierenced.
I asked this questrion earlier and got no answer but do you also disgaree with the actions of the Italians when they got rid of mussolini?
 
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That is not justice. It is revenge and against the rules of War. He was a prisoner of war and should have been taken care of


Have you been a soldier or something. It is against International Law, was not needed and nothing is gained by it. It must be an embarrassment to all decent Libyans Most on line people I have seen have been whooping it up. I don't think anyone was scared, disgusted yes, scared no. There is no reason or excuse for how he was treated, Even though not a regular army they should have been told acceptable behaviour. Some are suggesting we ourselves should take some blame because of our involvement. We should have taught them better



You suggesting the were mentally sick by that time. It was by where Gadaffis army had done most damage. However they were still acting as soldiers and should have been held back, There is a lot of truth now we will never know.

It's like i said before. It's human behaviour.
It does not exist during a war. Sad but true.

except Japans who let you kill yourself as a ritual of honor, none in the other part of world use trials during the wars. War rules haven't been changed since BC eras.

This is the behavior of our race as human. have been passed more then 2 thousand of years and sodomy is never removed as a war rule. Battles of roman ages are same in manner with battles we see today. Only tools have been changed.

I disagree with it too but this is human behavior. We are like household wild animals.
British BRUTALITY in Iraq - YouTube Hear this british soldier. Hear it how he makes fun of brutality.
No matter if a soldier is from USA, UK, Iraq or elsewhere. Sometimes soldiers need to be animals to survive.
 
I love how random people on the internet think they know how others would react in certain situations.
I love how people sitting in the comfort of their chair of their computer in their safe country making judgements about people who suffered for decades under a brutal dictator.
You couldn't be more wrong.

I think its to easy to pass judgement on these people when you are not in their situation. Are you saying that if you suffered for decades under a brutal dictator you wouldn't make sure that dictator's final moments were painful?
 
I need to type slower, let me spell it out for you BO tools........LIBERALS ARE HYPOCRITES.

Had this been on Bush's watch you people would have been screaming for his impeachment. Wait, had Bush started launching drones all over the world killing US citizens like BO is doing, the impeachment would already be in motion. Of course that assumes Bush wasn't being impeached for starting a couple of wars without any Congressional approval. The silence of the liberals if deafening.

So are you, as I showed you in post #32. Being hypocritical about being a hypocrite, don't think I've seen something so blatantly obvious before on DP.
 
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I don't think this thread is going the way the OP intended.
 
I personally have no interest in seeing this filth, and my reaction to knowing it's out there is. I don't know who is the sickest the one who performed the act, the one who recorded it or, anyone who watches it.

Never mind it's all of the above.
 
Pretty much everyone else caught on to the fact that it was blatant hackery at work.

I admit, I've been out of politics for a bit. I've got too much work to care about the rest of the world. What happened in Libya again? Did we invade them? I hear about how we sodomized Gaddafi. Did we?
 
I admit, I've been out of politics for a bit. I've got too much work to care about the rest of the world. What happened in Libya again? Did we invade them? I hear about how we sodomized Gaddafi. Did we?

Some rebel sodomized him with a knife. And it's all Obama's fault! :2mad:
 
Some rebel sodomized him with a knife. And it's all Obama's fault! :2mad:

Oh. But did US troops invade Libya? Also, which rebels have said anything about installing Sharia law? I haven't even heard the names of any prominent rebel leaders. Mostly split up factions around the country. Could you please direct me to an article on the rebel leader's thoughts on the path Libya should take? And I don't mean this guy.

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I need to type slower, let me spell it out for you BO tools........LIBERALS ARE HYPOCRITES.

Had this been on Bush's watch you people would have been screaming for his impeachment. Wait, had Bush started launching drones all over the world killing US citizens like BO is doing, the impeachment would already be in motion. Of course that assumes Bush wasn't being impeached for starting a couple of wars without any Congressional approval. The silence of the liberals if deafening.

Given some of your comments, I'm not even sure if you can see this thread any more. Either way, I might caution you about accusing others of hypocrisy. It's always a double edged sword. You may think it's hypocritical because you don't believe liberals are denouncing this where they would have if Bush were president. That can be easily turned to point out that you're only objecting to this because it happened while Obama is in the White House.

Just saying....
 
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Read it. Closest thing I could come up to what he said was:

Libyan interim Constitutional Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Article 1 of the Constitutional Declaration describes the Libyan state as follows:[2]

it is a democracy, wherein the people (الشعب) act as the source of political authorities (سلطات)
Tripoli is the state capital
Islam is the state religion ( دينها "its [viz. Libya's] religion")
The Islamic Sharia (الشريعة الإسلامية) is its principal source of legislation (المصدر الرئيس للتشريع)
the state grants the right of freedom of religion for non-Muslim minorities
Arabic is the official language
The state protects the linguistic and cultural rights of all components of Libyan society

Arabic state with Sharia law as the source for legislation. Not sure how that means Sharia law will be the law. I'm not even sure how that is news. Either way, we're allies with almost every single country that has installed Sharia except for Iran. So what's the problem now? Oh I gets it....
 
Given some of your comments, I'm not even sure if you can see this thread any more. Either way, I might caution you about accusing others of hypocrisy. It's always a double edged sword. You may think it's hypocritical because you don't believe liberals are denouncing this where they would have if Bush were president. That can be easily turned to point out that you're only objecting to this because it happened while Obama is in the White House.

Just saying....

Exactly what I pointed out to him lol.
 
Read it. Closest thing I could come up to what he said was:

Libyan interim Constitutional Declaration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Arabic state with Sharia law as the source for legislation. Not sure how that means Sharia law will be the law. I'm not even sure how that is news. Either way, we're allies with almost every single country that has installed Sharia except for Iran. So what's the problem now? Oh I gets it....

The average reader isn't capable of comprehending nuance, in my opinion.
 
I love how people sitting in the comfort of their chair of their computer in their safe country making judgements about people who suffered for decades under a brutal dictator.


I think its to easy to pass judgement on these people when you are not in their situation. Are you saying that if you suffered for decades under a brutal dictator you wouldn't make sure that dictator's final moments were painful?
What i am saying is that there is nothing that anyone could do to me or anyone i loved that would make me sink to the depths of those animals who torture and shove knives up peoples asses.

And be careful mate. You know nothing about me and what my experiences may or may not have been. Might pay you to leave it at that.
 
The average reader isn't capable of comprehending nuance, in my opinion.

Oh, wait... he's mad AT the fact that Sharia law will be the foundation for laws in an Arabic state where the overwhelming majority of the population is Muslim...
 
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