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Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street Movem

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Proud South Korean said:
Not surprised the commies threw their support behind this kind of stupid movement.
I'm actually quite surprised the Nazis did it, their predecessors would be writhing in their graves right now.
I don't know if they did it for media attention or a shifting of the ideology, or if they just got plain mad in their ways, but the Nazis supporting this kind of thing is pretty shocking
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At first I thought it was pretty perverse. But they say that "Judeo-Capitalists" are the "#1 enemy." They're so crazy and hateful that maybe in some twisted way, they really are finding common ground with OWS.
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TurtleDude said:
to socialists and other supporters of a parasitic system, cutting taxes and government waste would destroy their way of life. ruining corporations, stealing wealth etc would advance their way of life so he really isn't a hypocrite

think of a dog and fleas. If you support fleas you can claim a flea collar would destroy your way of life
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Your political analysis is astonishingly astute and concise. You should be a political science professor and share your deep insight with the blossoming young minds of our future generations.
 
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Redress said:
The Tea party has stood shoulder to shoulder with racists. And yet only stupid people claim the tea party is racist.
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BS. If lying makes you feel better about your perspective, so be it.
 
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spud_meister said:
Beck's a strict constitutionalist, he wants to fundamentally transform the US too.
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No he's not, he wants his viewers to think he's a strict constitutionalist. In his heart of hearts Beck wants a theocracy more than anything else.
 
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theplaydrive said:
Same thing. The Tea Party lost control of their image and in turn, their ability to gain more support which is, in fact, being negatively affected. As to your earlier comment about the debt ceiling, the Tea Party didn't win anything - they were pissed after that and lost even more favor with the public and the Republican party.
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That is idiotic. The Tea Party movement is comprised of conservatives/libertarians....period. We came out in droves last November and completely changed the political landscape and the debate in DC. If you or anyone thinks the people in the Tea Party have changed their principles given the coordinated vilification we receive in the lamestream media and liberal blogs, you have lost your mind. We don't expect liberals, socialists, marxists, statists, welfare beggars or republican establishment folks to like us or our principles. We didn't have rallies to gin up public support of our cause. We had rallies to fire up all the conservatives to go out and actively campaign, contribute to and vote for conservatives. WE DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT US........what we do care about is changing the political landscape by voting for conservative politicians that actually: 1) respect the Constitution; 2) want a smaller government; and, 3) cherish personal liberty. We aren't going away and our power isn't reduced by negative press or a bunch of stinky cry babies camping out in NYC.
 
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Josie said:
playdrive, they don't want to fundamentally transform America? Have you ever listened to an anarchist, socialist or communist and what they wish America was like?
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I want to fundamentally transform my dick size so that it's 9 or 10 inches, but it's not gonna happen :shrug:

There's a difference between ideals and reality/pragmatism. Honestly OWS is a disparate group of individuals who all believe different things but are united in their anger against the power of big money in politics. Like I said before, if they were really serious about their goal of fundamentally transforming America, they would be resorting to armed revolution.
 
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Josie said:
Everyone is saying that the anarchists, communists and socialists are a very small percentage of these protests. Yet, the people with the loudest voices in these protests (the ones who created the Occupy Wall Street Journal newspaper, the professors getting their students to the streets, the speakers....) are all either socialists or communists. They have a lot more power than just regular Joe Schmo on the street who is simply angry at our government and doesn't want to destroy the system as we know it. The ones with the biggest voices are the ones who want to destory Wall Street and the banks. They want to eliminate capitalism from our country.

And my question to the regular ole liberal and libertarian there is....Why aren't you speaking out against these anarchists, socialists and communists?
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speaking out against what? Having an opinion?
 
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apdst said:
Actually, the Nazis fingered the Jews, because the Jews held most of the wealth in Germany. It was typical Leftist class warfare.
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nice thought, except the Nazi's were not leftist....they were at the other side of the spectrum. If you review your history, Hitler hated communists. The liberals were early targets of the brown-shirts, with many liberals sent to concentration camps or otherwise disposed of....
 
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conservativeguy said:
That is idiotic. The Tea Party movement is comprised of conservatives/libertarians....period.
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Actually there are some liberals in it as well.

We came out in droves last November and completely changed the political landscape and the debate in DC.
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Until the public and the main Republican Party got tired of you after 10 minutes.

If you or anyone thinks the people in the Tea Party have changed their principles given the coordinated vilification we receive in the lamestream media and liberal blogs, you have lost your mind.
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I don't think that so you can calm down now Mrs. Palin (nice integration of "lamestream").

We don't expect liberals, socialists, marxists, statists, welfare beggars or republican establishment folks to like us or our principles.
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Then I guess you take comfort in the fact that you've been alienated in Washington.

We didn't have rallies to gin up public support of our cause.
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Maybe you didn't.

We had rallies to fire up all the conservatives to go out and actively campaign, contribute to and vote for conservatives.
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Which some did and then it didn't matter because the Republican Party hates you.

WE DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT US........
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I never said you did.

what we do care about is changing the political landscape by voting for conservative politicians that actually: 1) respect the Constitution; 2) want a smaller government; and, 3) cherish personal liberty. We aren't going away and our power isn't reduced by negative press or a bunch of stinky cry babies camping out in NYC.
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Keep telling yourself that.
 
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theplaydrive said:
Actually there are some liberals in it as well.


Until the public and the main Republican Party got tired of you after 10 minutes.


I don't think that so you can calm down now Mrs. Palin (nice integration of "lamestream").


Then I guess you take comfort in the fact that you've been alienated in Washington.


Maybe you didn't.


Which some did and then it didn't matter because the Republican Party hates you.


I never said you did.


Keep telling yourself that.
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LMFAO....if that's all you got, it ain't much. :lamo
 
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DaveFagan said:
The Banks and large Corporations are the obvious parasites. Who took the bailout? Was that a working class bailout. No, it was welfare for the rich and greedy. I haven't seen anyone except the rich defend the socialistic, parasitic banks of government handout fame. We need a flea collar that protects us from banks and their Republican (mostly) goombahs.
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how many large corporations took bailouts and refresh my memory-were they union shops where the unions pushed for the bailout?
 
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TurtleDude said:
how many large corporations took bailouts and refresh my memory-were they union shops where the unions pushed for the bailout?
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So, I see that your strategy is change the topic. Am I right?
 
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StillBallin75 said:
No he's not, he wants his viewers to think he's a strict constitutionalist. In his heart of hearts Beck wants a theocracy more than anything else.
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Oh, please, SB. That's not even close to true.
 
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Mr. Invisible said:
Wow! So we have a bunch of shit-headed Nazis come and say they support OWS and it suddenly turns into "OH NOEZ! TEH NAZIS, LIBURALS, ANARCHISTS, AND COMMUNISTS R TAKIN' OVA AMUURICA!!!!"? Seriously guys? These people don't even matter. How can it be some vast left-wing conspiracy when OWS has no leader?, much less the fact that liberal, commies, nazis, and anarchists can't even get along due to MASSIVE ideological differences?
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You know damn good-n-well, that if the Nazis would have come out in support of the Tea Party, the Libbos would have latched onto that and never let it go. Look at the lies the Libbos have been parroting so far.
 
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Thunder said:
please provide evidence of these anti-Semitic remarks.
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Go to youtube to find more anti-semitic protesters.
 
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upsideguy said:
nice thought, except the Nazi's were not leftist....they were at the other side of the spectrum. If you review your history, Hitler hated communists. The liberals were early targets of the brown-shirts, with many liberals sent to concentration camps or otherwise disposed of....
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So, the Nazis were right wingers who wanted small government, more private businesses, fewer regulations and more capitalism? Be honest, when you answer the question.

Hitler hated the Communists, because they were the competition for power, not because he disagreed with their politics. The difference between facism and communism is like the difference between a pilsner beer and a lagar beer.
 
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apdst said:
So, the Nazis were right wingers who wanted small government, more private businesses, fewer regulations and more capitalism? Be honest, when you answer the question.

Hitler hated the Communists, because they were the competition for power, not because he disagreed with their politics. The difference between facism and communism is like the difference between a pilsner beer and a lagar beer.
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Historical revisionism at its finest. It was both. Anti-Communism was an essential element in the beginnings of Nazi ideology. This was a common strain throughout most right-wing nationalist movements at the time.
 
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Europe had a different left-right system. They never experienced freedom in the sense that we had it when our Founders created our nation. Our right is small government, low spending, low taxes, more individual freedom - a few steps above anarchism. Europe's right is fascism - massive government, very little freedom. The more left you go in our system, the bigger government gets. The farther right you go, the less powerful government is.
 
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It's fun watching people do the same thing they would cry about if it was done to the tea party. It's also fun watching people who thanked me when I defended the tea party from similar attacks now attack because I point out the hypocrisy and stupidity of this. But the hands down best part of this...watching how some people react when they cannot argue against something and are forced to simply attack the people instead of the ideas.
 
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apdst said:
So, the Nazis were right wingers who wanted small government, more private businesses, fewer regulations and more capitalism? Be honest, when you answer the question.

Hitler hated the Communists, because they were the competition for power, not because he disagreed with their politics.
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Small government and few regulations is not the definition of right wing ideology, especially in the historical and global context. Historically, the European right wing was backed by tradition and the church. It was concerned with traditionalism, nationalism, societal hierarchies and the rejection of any attempts to remove these principles. Hitler hated communism because the communists were internationalists and were driven by the desire to smash these principals.

The difference between facism and communism is like the difference between a pilsner beer and a lagar beer.
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Fire and water would be more accurate metaphors. Fascism is diametrically opposed to communism. Communists advocate class warfare, fascists advocate class collaboration. Communists advocate equality, fascists advocate hierarchy and superiority. Communists want to abolish private property, fascists want to protect private property. Communists are internationalists and fascists adhere to national identity.
 
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Josie said:










Go to youtube to find more anti-semitic protesters.
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Anti-Semites from the left. LMAO...
 
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Josie said:
Europe had a different left-right system. They never experienced freedom in the sense that we had it when our Founders created our nation. Our right is small government, low spending, low taxes, more individual freedom - a few steps above anarchism. Europe's right is fascism - massive government, very little freedom. The more left you go in our system, the bigger government gets. The farther right you go, the less powerful government is.
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Are anarchists (not anarcho-capitalists) also advocates of massive government, or are they not far-left?
 
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Mr. Invisible said:
So, I see that your strategy is change the topic. Am I right?
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nope, just asking the tough questions of those who think that its only evil capitalists who want bailouts
 
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