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Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street Movem

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theplaydrive said:
The problem with your comment is that it links liberals together with anarchists, socialists and communists in a plan to "fundamentally transform American society"? Do you know how ****ing stupid that sounds? Regular old liberals, anarchists, socialists and communists coming together to fundamentally transform American society. It's SO ****ING STUPID.

Where's the proof? Please show me what "fundamentals" these unlikely allies are planning to "transform"?
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Isn't that what OWS is about? Or do they still not have a message?
 
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TheGreatSandeno said:
How the government isn't "for the people" anymore. Do you really think calling up your representatives makes a difference?
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Which is exactly what tea parties have been saying for years. Where have you been?
 
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Josie said:
You have issues following conversations, it seems.

I'm saying YOU (and the others) are defining these protests as pointless. You're saying there's no common goal among the anarchists, communists, socialists, libertarians and liberals. So there is no purpose except to get together to yell about different things you're mad about. That's what YOU all are saying.
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there isn't a conspiracy among them to fundamentally change American society. Here's why: OWS hasn't come out with an official list of changes, not all members of those groups are involved in OWS and whatever changes they would agree upon are not going to be "fundamental" since every one of those groups has completely different ideas of the "fundamentals" of American society should be.

Here's a question for you: what are you imagining as the "fundamentals" that unite the mainstream left with these other groups?
 
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theplaydrive said:
This would only matter if what they had in common was racism. They don't. I would also expect that the American Nazi Party thinks free speech is a good thing. I guess that says a lot about people who value free speech and the movements they create to protect it.
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I'm thinking they don't. If they are not careful, those who really want change could be about to lose control.
 
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Josie said:
I'm a tea partier and I've been about ending corruption in politics since I became interested in politics. These people have despised everything about tea partiers for 4 years. Now all of a sudden they agree?
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People don't despise the Tea Party because it wants to end corruption. They despise it because it supports policies that they believe will destroy the country. The TP and OWS agree on some of the problems, but certainly not on the solutions.
 
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1Perry said:
I'm thinking they don't. If they are not careful, those who really want change could be about to lose control.
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This is very true. It's analogous to how the original Tea Party leaders lost control after some racists showed up to their events. The same could happen to OWS.
 
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Josie said:
Which is exactly what tea parties have been saying for years. Where have you been?
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I've never expressed distaste for the Tea Party. I will say I didn't like it when the Republicans absorbed them.

That's what this movement is trying to avoid. We accept support, but we express no support for any political party. We don't want to be identified with left/right, that is the problem with this country, people who think they have to oppose others because they're different.
 
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apdst said:
Oh yeah! Things are looking good for the entertainers! :rofl



This just gets better and better.
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Socialists and communists attending a anti-wall street rally?Say it ain't so.
 
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Josie said:
They are tying themselves together.

If there is no common goal with these protests, then it's simply a mish-mash of various people who have no common goals or solutions. Therefore, they're all irrelevant and not the fabulous "coming together for one common purpose" that people are making it out to be. It's just a bunch of people screaming, hurting small businesses and not showering. Why would you be for that mess?
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Why are you so against it?

Seriously, I've seen a bunch of quotes from their actual site.

You might check it out and decide what you think yourself, instead of letting Beck show you the parts that will evoke the desired response from his audience. Which is to tune in again tomorrow so he can sell some more commercials.

The man is on record saying he's a showman, in it for the money and the fame, and really doesn't care about the politics.
 
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apdst said:
Oh yeah! Things are looking good for the entertainers! :rofl



This just gets better and better.
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So Nazis support OWS and the Tea Baggers... fascinating
 
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Josie said:
If the Tea Party stood side-by-side with the KKK at rallies and protests, never speaking out against them or asking them to leave or seperating themselves from them, everyone (rightly so) would link the two groups together. Agreed?
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The Tea party has stood shoulder to shoulder with racists. And yet only stupid people claim the tea party is racist.
 
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theplaydrive said:
This is very true. It's analogous to how the original Tea Party leaders lost control after some racists showed up to their events. The same could happen to OWS.
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Except that never happened. :shrug:
 
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Redress said:
The Tea party has stood shoulder to shoulder with racists. And yet only stupid people claim the tea party is racist.
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You've proudly stood shoulder to shoulder with racists.
 
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What if...? said:
Because Glen Beck lost his credibility with us and now we don't believe a word he says.

He doomed us all with his self aggrandizing foolishness.
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You don't have to listen to glenn beck. Listen to the people who are speaking at these rallies. Listen to the people who called for these protests. Listen to the professors who are encouraging their students to call for revolution. I don't care if you don't want to listen to Glenn Beck, but don't pretend the people he talks about don't exist and their words aren't true. They're saying it themselves. They're calling for revolution and the fall of capitalism. To say that isn't true is to deny fact.

No, I'm not saying ALL the protesters want what these people want. I just want people to acknowledge that they are saying it and they are involved in a major way. Research these people, please...

Stephen Lerner
Frances Fox Piven
Cornel West
Adbusters
Aran Gupta & Jed Brandt from the Occupy Wall Street Journal (it's writers, creators, backers, editors, etc.)
and US Day of Rage - Main
 
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1Perry said:
You've proudly stood shoulder to shoulder with racists.
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Not to my knowledge, but that is kinda irrelevant.
 
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Josie said:
If the Tea Party stood side-by-side with the KKK at rallies and protests, never speaking out against them or asking them to leave or seperating themselves from them, everyone (rightly so) would link the two groups together. Agreed?
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Do you have pics/videos of this? (I may have missed them if already posted)
 
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theplaydrive said:
The only thing with a massive amount of stupidity is this thread.
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This is a free country and you're free to not post on the thread.
 
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1Perry said:
Except that never happened. :shrug:
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Uh...what? Maybe we have different definitions of racist and control.
 
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apdst said:
This is a free country and you're free to not post on the thread.
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Thank you for letting me know that apdst.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
If that was their true purpose they'd have brought weapons, not simply stand around and protest, IMO.
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The Bolshevicks didn't bring weapons to their first protests. Neither did the SA. It was all nice-n-peaceful like, in the beginning.
 
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Redress said:
Not to my knowledge, but that is kinda irrelevant.
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Why? So you are saying that you are cool with it so it really doesn't matter that you do it?
 
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Josie said:
Which is exactly what tea parties have been saying for years. Where have you been?
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Active in local/regional/state politics. So I'm very curious about your claim to have been active in the Tea Party for four years. Really? Before the summer of 2008?

Where were you?
 
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theplaydrive said:
Uh...what? Maybe we have different definitions of racist and control.
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My guess would be that you are the stereotypical liberal that labels anyone they disagree with as a racist. That would be your definition.
 
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Thunder said:
if a bunch of skinheads showed up at an OWC event, they would have their asses kicked in a NY minute.
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I suspect that most of those lamers, trust fund idiots, refuse to workniks and other losers would get their asses kicked by a bunch of skinheads
 
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theplaydrive said:
People don't despise the Tea Party because it wants to end corruption. They despise it because it supports policies that they believe will destroy the country. The TP and OWS agree on some of the problems, but certainly not on the solutions.
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How ironic. You despise the tea partiers because you think they want to destroy the country, yet you applaud these protests with people who want to destroy the country.
 
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