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List of political ideologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Communism with a capital C is an ideology based on an economic philosophy.

The Soviet Union was a standard top-down system with a semblance of communism for the masses. Essentially one of the biggest con jobs in history. The top 1% in the Soviet Union ruled the 80% with the help of 20%. Just like always.
 
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List of political ideologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Communism with a capital C is an ideology based on an economic philosophy.

The Soviet Union was a standard top-down system with a semblance of communism for the masses. Essentially one of the biggest con jobs in history. The top 1% in the Soviet Union ruled the 80% with the help of 20%. Just like always.

So you admit it's an ideology. Good. Will you acknowedge that "Communism is a social, political and economic movement that aims at the establishment of a classless and stateless communist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production."

Don't tell me it's "just an economic philosophy." It's very much a system based on morals, Karl Marx's morals to be exact, seeing as how he created the Communist Manifesto. Communism is a moral philosophy that doesn't work in reality. Communism expects people to act according to the virtues/morals of the ideology, which is probably one reason why it keeps failing---because people don't stick to communism's morals/values.
 
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So you admit it's an ideology. Good. Will you acknowedge that "Communism is a social, political and economic movement that aims at the establishment of a classless and stateless communist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production."

Don't tell me it's "just an economic philosophy." It's very much a system based on morals, Karl Marx's morals to be exact, seeing as how he created the Communist Manifesto. Communism is a moral philosophy that doesn't work in reality. Communism expects people to act according to the virtues/morals of the ideology, which is probably one reason why it keeps failing---because people don't stick to communism's morals/values.

I actually participated in an experiment in communism that failed for the reasons it always fails. No incentive for excellence. The same reward for the most productive as for the least.

Marx didn't invent communism. We ALL lived communally when we were hunter-gatherers.

Existing primitive cultures still do. Its pro-survival for small groups.

It stops working when societies get big enough that they adopt hierarchies and the management class. Then they stop being true meritocracies and fall prey to nepotism, cronyism, and all the other joys of hierarchical systems.

The Soviet Union was NOT communism in its pure philosophical form.

It was a top down hierarchy, just like we have here.

It was NOT from each according to his abilities, to each according to their means. Some people were more equal than others. Party members enjoyed a much higher quality of life than the rest of the population.
 
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Reagan didn't repeal Medicaid, Medicare, nor Social Security.

therefore, you consider him a Socialist..right?
Do you have idea who controlled congress when RR was in office?
 
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Do you have idea who controlled congress when RR was in office?

did RR submit legislation or call for legislation do abolish SS, Medicare, & Medicaid?

did he advocate for Congress to pass such legislation?

no? then by the logic of the OP, Reagan was a Socialist.
 
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did RR submit legislation or call for legislation do abolish SS, Medicare, & Medicaid?

did he advocate for Congress to pass such legislation?

no? then by the logic of the OP, Reagan was a Socialist.

Translation: I don't know.
 
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Communism isn't even an ideology.

Its a ****ing economic philosophy.

Capitalism isnt an ideology either.
In my opinion communism is political and socialism is economic. Marxism is philosophical.
 
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Contemporary conservatism worships property rights that can only exist with the protection of government.

That and a slew of morality laws that also require the existence of a government.

I don't see ANY evidence that modern conservatism wants NO government.
ok, i don't necessarily disagree with any of that... but i'm not sure what this has to do with anarchy being right wing.
 
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did RR submit legislation or call for legislation do abolish SS, Medicare, & Medicaid?

did he advocate for Congress to pass such legislation?

no? then by the logic of the OP, Reagan was a Socialist.

Ronald Reagan was originally against Medicare and Medicaid. However, when he was in office, he surprised people by working with Congress to save Medicare.
 
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In my opinion communism is political and socialism is economic. Marxism is philosophical.

:doh :doh :doh

You should really study those two systems again.
Communism is economic and socialism is political.
 
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:doh :doh :doh

You should really study those two systems again.
Communism is economic and socialism is political.
Well let's see.
Communism is a social, political and economic movement.​
Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My focus has always been on the political aspects but I see the bleed over.

Socialism /ˈsoʊʃəlɪzəm/ is an economic system in which the means of production are commonly owned and controlled cooperatively; or a political philosophy advocating such a system.​
Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have studied communist nations, socialism versus capitalism and Marxism. Much like the terms liberal and conservative have changed their meanings over time with contemporary usage so to it goes with these.

Communism is primarly political. It is a means to implement a socialist economic model espoused by a Marxist philosophy.
 
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I would like to nominate this thread for the Funniest Thread of the Year. I do not think anything will top in during the next ten weeks.
 
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This must mean all the OWS protesters are pro north korean Juche ideology!
Democratic Korea in solidarity with Occupy movement | The Marxist-Leninist
With the exception of Radical Karl, who, to the best of my knowledge was never in a position to exploit the people haven't every one of the leaders of those regimes tyrannized their people? Do we really want to go back down that path again?
 
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The Nazi Party and the folks in the Pee Party movement have plenty in common.....mostly though it is the shared hatred of Jews that binds these two groups.

Actually, there are quite a few Jews in the OWS movement. If you have ever been to New York, you would find that most Jews there are quite Liberal.
 
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Actually, there are quite a few Jews in the OWS movement. If you have ever been to New York, you would find that most Jews there are quite Liberal.

How'd that work out for Anthony Weiner's old seat?
 
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