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I do not like to speak ill of the dead but he was not some damn Guru or something. He was a moneymaker. Did he change the world we live in with the products he created? Sure. But other than that? What did he really do? Give me somethings meaningful this man (keyword here is MAN) did for the world. I am not talking about tech stuff. I am talking what he did to make this world a better place. Sure I know that his products can be used to help folks but on a personal level what did he do? I know he had said in the past that he did not have time to help with charity as he just needed to work to do stuff and yes folks in hospitals and blah, blah, blah use his stuff. But did this man on a personal level ever do anything out of his heart that did not involvle his products? I am just curious.
On facebook:
"He made the world a better place, we'll miss him."
He sold you grossly overpriced hardware made by borderline slaves in China. Good marketing and product design skills does not qualify one for sainthood.
I do not like to speak ill of the dead but he was not some damn Guru or something. He was a moneymaker. Did he change the world we live in with the products he created? Sure. But other than that? What did he really do? Give me somethings meaningful this man (keyword here is MAN) did for the world. I am not talking about tech stuff. I am talking what he did to make this world a better place. Sure I know that his products can be used to help folks but on a personal level what did he do? I know he had said in the past that he did not have time to help with charity as he just needed to work to do stuff and yes folks in hospitals and blah, blah, blah use his stuff. But did this man on a personal level ever do anything out of his heart that did not involvle his products? I am just curious.
Not everyone who contributes to the world, does so in the manner of someone such as Mother Theresa.
I don't know that you or I are qualified to judge what, if anything that Jobs did, came “out of his heart”.
But I do not think that anyone can rationally deny that—whatever his motives may have been, whatever rewards he may have sought or received in return notwithstanding—he was a man who contributed greatly to the world, and who did a great deal to make the world a better place.
You seek to minimize his contribution by questioning whether it came “out of his heart”, and only involved technological products.
I doubt if there is or has been any other man who has had such a profound effect on the way that we use modern computer-based technology to improve our lives. Even if you don't own or use any products made by Apple, you surely do own or use many products that involve technology that was pioneered by Apple, and you own and use many products whose development was driven by a need to compete with Apple.
Ah Question, now given the fact that I am a iPhone and iPad owner... I really don't see how getting to watch porn on my iPhone made the world a better place :lol:
Made my pants a better place though.
Stop engaging in class Warfare.
How was that class warfare?
Well no one said anything about sainthood, just that he made the world a better place. And he didn't just sell overpriced hardware. He sparked a revolution whereby the average citizen could have a computer. Also, without his vision you wouldn't be posting on internet forums because these, like every computer program you are probably familiar with uses the user interface that he was the first to successfully implement. But yeah, other than that and no doubt numerous other things, what you said.On facebook:
"He made the world a better place, we'll miss him."
He sold you grossly overpriced hardware made by borderline slaves in China. Good marketing and product design skills does not qualify one for sainthood.
I think that's overstating his accomplishments. He popularized computers, but didn't do much beyond that. What about Dennis Ritchie, he died and no one even knows who he was. Dennis invented C, the very foundation of many computer languages, and helped invent UNIX. Steve Jobs accomplished a lot, but I don't know if its as big as everyone is making it out to be. And with the cheap manufacture in China, although I have respect for Steve Jobs and what he accomplished, I don't see how everyone is idolizing him like they are.Well no one said anything about sainthood, just that he made the world a better place. And he didn't just sell overpriced hardware. He sparked a revolution whereby the average citizen could have a computer. Also, without his vision you wouldn't be posting on internet forums because these, like every computer program you are probably familiar with uses the user interface that he was the first to successfully implement. But yeah, other than that and no doubt numerous other things, what you said.
How did Jobs help the world?
Well he entertained us with his company Pixar.
His company designed the computer that became the first server for the world wide web (what you dolts are using to post right now) that was only made possible for Swedish scientist thanks to the Mathmatica and other compiling tools available on NeXT Systems.
Under his direction, Apple created the modern PC and mouse back in the 80s
Changed the music industry
Changed the retail industry
Changed the computer industry (twice)
Created what has become the phone and tablet market, and ultimately what will become the PC market in the future
Popularized the notion of CD-Rs and USB with the introduction of iMac
Before he left in the 80s, formed a group that made Newton (first PDA) which later spun off of Apple and became Palm
Forcing children to work in unsanitary conditions for minimal pay so Jobs could become more wealthy isn't the sign of a very decent person, if you ask me.
Whenever I found out about the child labor in China I vowed not to buy another apple product. And that was years before Jobs died. I am sorry now that I even bought the ipod touch 2G. I didn't know about it back then.
The man was brilliant and way ahead of his time, but he was also an asshole.
Not enough but yea he did. But since then his company has become another problem in the copywrite battles. iTunes software sucks donkey balls, the music is relatively expensive and bound to Apple products. Sadly alternatives to iTunes have not popped up as much as people had hoped, since the music companies refuse to give permission to sell their wares from alternatives to iTunes... leaving the market dominated by Apple with a very few stragglers behind them.
Let's see, Denmark invented the ....er uh Internet? No, how about the World Wide Web, uh NOT!! Well how about the PC? Nope......Holy crap. The guy was a visonary, whose brilliance literally changed the world we live in... and people are looking for reasons to crap on him after he died, because his company... like just about every other manufacturing company in this country... has his tech assembled in China.
Some of you have serious issues if you have to dredge up reasons to insult and talk **** about the accomplishments of someone who has just died. Damn. Just... damn. :2mad:
Forcing children to work in unsanitary conditions for minimal pay so Jobs could become more wealthy isn't the sign of a very decent person, if you ask me.
Whenever I found out about the child labor in China I vowed not to buy another apple product. And that was years before Jobs died. I am sorry now that I even bought the ipod touch 2G. I didn't know about it back then.
The man was brilliant and way ahead of his time, but he was also an asshole.
Hardly "his company".. There were 2 others, plus a buttload of rich investors.. you know Spielberg..
LOL now you seriously stretching it. Yes the first web server ran on NeXT computer, but it was quickly ported to other UNIX systems... and has never looked back. Guess they found the NeXT system not good enough...Even today there is limited web server functionality in the NeXT OS of today... OSX.
Well... mouse I can give, but "modern PC".. sorry but that is also a stretch. Remember Apple never had any great influence on the PC market and its marketshare is at record levels today.. still way under 10% world wide.
Eh how? By opening expensive retail stores to sell expensive products? Gucci and other luxury product makers have been doing that for decades.
How so? Yes his original Mac "Changed" the industry by moving over to a graphical OS from a text based OS, but the Mac was hardly a success. What else did he change in the computer industry? The Apple 2?
LOL seriously? How can a product that no one bought popularize anything? iMac came out just after the USB standard hit the market.. in fact Steve Jobs was far more in favour of Firewire... another Apple flop, than USB.. and still is.. since he backed Thunderbolt over USB 3.0.. and has so far utterly failed yet again.
As for CD-R... again bull****.
Newton flopped and almost cost him the company. And no on the spun off from Apple and become Palm part. Yes it was spun off into the Newton INC, a whole owned subsidiary of Apple. Then Jobs was fired and the Newton INC company was pulled back into Apple and the whole thing cancelled.
Well then we should treat it like it is. He was an enterprising capitalist and we were the consumer. We shouldn't make it out to be more than it is. He chose to make products in China and should be treated like other business men and CEO's, I don't know why we are glorifying him and vilifying other CEO's who outsource.So let me see if I get this straight; you buy all your clothes from American Apparel and all your home furnishings from the Amish? All your electronics came from where???? That is actually a really stupid reason to not like a product because honestly, you buy more stuff made from Chinese kids than you think. Ever shop at Wal-Mart? Are you typing on a computer or just writing stuff with pencil and paper and mailing it to some guy to type it for you?
Let's see, Denmark invented the ....er uh Internet? No, how about the World Wide Web, uh NOT!! Well how about the PC? Nope......