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Herman Cain Leads Republican Field In Zogby Poll Has a new frontrunner emerged?

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I defer to Nate Silver via twitter: "No, Zogby internet polls are not scientific and are wildly inaccurate. Should be ignored."
 
I defer to Nate Silver via twitter: "No, Zogby internet polls are not scientific and are wildly inaccurate. Should be ignored."

Ill take that on your word, because i dont know...I posted it because its all over the place being reported...
 
Ill take that on your word, because i dont know...I posted it because its all over the place being reported...

Nate Silver is just probably one of the best pollster and, generally, is more often then not right about outcomes in elections.
 
Nate Silver is just probably one of the best pollster and, generally, is more often then not right about outcomes in elections.

After I read anagrams post i went and researched him...hes a master statitician and makes extremely accurate predictions...
 
I would not read too much into this yet. Wait and watch how polling falls out over the next couple weeks, from other pollsters with other methods as well.

Good place to watch: RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - 2012 Republican Presidential Nomination

I agree...I didnt post this to insinuate it was gospel...I posted it because it was being slammed all over the net and being reported by alot of sites..

Personally in the end I dont believe cain wins the GOP primary
 
Our local Godfather's just closed. :lol:

Strike a blow for the small independent and fine some really great pizza made by a local owner. Screw the big chains and their 'pizza' which tastes more like the cardboard box it comes in.
 
After I read anagrams post i went and researched him...hes a master statitician and makes extremely accurate predictions...

Yep. I don't blame the NYT for hiring him. He is one of the few people I actually read.
 
Strike a blow for the small independent and fine some really great pizza made by a local owner. Screw the big chains and their 'pizza' which tastes more like the cardboard box it comes in.

Their pizza sucked. Give me a mom and pop place any day.
 
I agree...I didnt post this to insinuate it was gospel...I posted it because it was being slammed all over the net and being reported by alot of sites..

Personally in the end I dont believe cain wins the GOP primary

Oh, I understand that, and it is news, and it is interesting. I am anxiously awaiting the next couple polls, to see if they show a similar spike, and wonder why he of all the candidates spiked.
 
Oh, I understand that, and it is news, and it is interesting. I am anxiously awaiting the next couple polls, to see if they show a similar spike, and wonder why he of all the candidates spiked.

Yanno ive been wondering the same thing...why cain ? I dont see anything spectacular in him or his performances and I dont see where he exudes or instills confidence that hes a great leader...ok he ran a pizza company...cool...like thorgasm said the pizza sucked...
Im not in the same court as alot of people are lately...I dont think running a business is the perfect gauge that your going to be a great president...or even a good one....Theres been many successful and some great presidents that never ran a business...Id like to know just how many great or good presidents ran business's
 
Yanno ive been wondering the same thing...why cain ? I dont see anything spectacular in him or his performances and I dont see where he exudes or instills confidence that hes a great leader...ok he ran a pizza company...cool...like thorgasm said the pizza sucked...
Im not in the same court as alot of people are lately...I dont think running a business is the perfect gauge that your going to be a great president...or even a good one....Theres been many successful and some great presidents that never ran a business...Id like to know just how many great or good presidents ran business's

I am doing this on my phone, so my response is going to be somewhat limited. First off, I think you are correct in that running a business isn't the same as holding the office of President. You may have qualified business experience, but the business world and political world really aren't the same beast. And this holds even more true on the national level, where you are much more likely to see divides along partisan lines then you would at the state or local level.

But I think what people like about Cain is the fact he didn't hold a political spot, which isn't really true. And this somehow makes him appealing because many people hate the system. What they don't realize is that Cain really wont change anything, but there is that hope he will. That and the fact people like cheering for the underdog.

And then there is something to say about the system itself. People in the beginning support who they like the most, but then will vote for some one who has a better shot. It is weird.
 
Let's count our chickens...wait, they haven't hatched yet!
 
Yanno ive been wondering the same thing...why cain ? I dont see anything spectacular in him or his performances and I dont see where he exudes or instills confidence that hes a great leader...ok he ran a pizza company...cool...like thorgasm said the pizza sucked...
Im not in the same court as alot of people are lately...I dont think running a business is the perfect gauge that your going to be a great president...or even a good one....Theres been many successful and some great presidents that never ran a business...Id like to know just how many great or good presidents ran business's

What it looks like to me is that Perry and Bachmann have dropped and their support went to Cain. This actually makes sense, since Cain is, among the remaining candidates, the one most like Perry and Bachmann. Paul is of course holding dead steady, which is to be expected, since Paul has a fervent base and the rest of the world thinks he is bat**** insane. He will get his ~10 % consistently, without it going up or down much. The rest don't have enough support to matter much except Romney, and I am not sure who Romney supporters would switch to.
 
Let's count our chickens...wait, they haven't hatched yet!

Nobody is counting chickens. What we are doing is the time honored tradition of over-analyzing poll numbers during an election. It is interesting to some of us, and fun!
 
I like him because he isn't Romney or Perry.
 
I've caught him several times on the radio over the past few years and have always found him warm, genuine, and sensible. And I laugh every time I hear that audio clip when he says he thinks folks are "over this first African-American President thing" and hope it's true because some people never cared. They didn't vote for Obama because they didn't agree with his views, but if they like Cain's views, they will vote for him. It's fashionable in some progressive circles to play the race-card, but I don't think people much care about it.
 
I've caught him several times on the radio over the past few years and have always found him warm, genuine, and sensible. And I laugh every time I hear that audio clip when he says he thinks folks are "over this first African-American President thing" and hope it's true because some people never cared. They didn't vote for Obama because they didn't agree with his views, but if they like Cain's views, they will vote for him. It's fashionable in some progressive circles to play the race-card, but I don't think people much care about it.

My brother in law and sister know him socially somewhat. Both think he is an awesome, brilliant guy who has not chance to be president, nor should he be president. Both my sister and brother in law are very conservative, so the issue is not that he is conservative, but that they don't think he has the qualifications.
 
My brother in law and sister know him socially somewhat. Both think he is an awesome, brilliant guy who has not chance to be president, nor should he be president. Both my sister and brother in law are very conservative, so the issue is not that he is conservative, but that they don't think he has the qualifications.

Just going to play this card now. But if some one with the qualifications of Obama can do it, then anyone can.
 
Just going to play this card now. But if some one with the qualifications of Obama can do it, then anyone can.

That's exactly what my first thought was.
 
My brother in law and sister know him socially somewhat. Both think he is an awesome, brilliant guy who has not chance to be president, nor should he be president. Both my sister and brother in law are very conservative, so the issue is not that he is conservative, but that they don't think he has the qualifications.

That's really interesting to learn. What are their specific concerns? His lack of foreign policy knowledge?
 
That's really interesting to learn. What are their specific concerns? His lack of foreign policy knowledge?

My brother in law put it(paraphrasing) that being a great business leader does not mean you would be good as a government leader, and in fact the opposite is probable. It's one of the few things politically we agree on. He mentioned the example of imagining a CEO having to work with a congress to get anything done.
 
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