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Chris Christie Reconsidering 2012 Run, Will Decide in Days

lpast said:
2012 is the GOPs election to lose...Obama is in no different position than Jimmy Carter was...the difference is there are no reagans...the teaparty wanted ever so badly for Perry to be their reagan and it appears hes muffed it....
I think romney is best positioned to beat Obama...but of course the teaparty hates him...hes not far right nutter enough for them...hes a <gasp> rino
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Probably true enough.

Romney is the one I think has the best chance if the damn bible thumpers don't go too stupid
 
You guys can sing Christies praises all you want, the fact is, he is far too fat to be elected president. If he wants the job, he will have to lose some weight to get superficial America to vote for him.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
You guys can sing Christies praises all you want, the fact is, he is far too fat to be elected president. If he wants the job, he will have to lose some weight to get superficial America to vote for him.
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Yeah , we dealt with that in the other string too.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-el...-plead-chris-christie-run.html#post1059481531
http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-el...-plead-chris-christie-run.html#post1059482630

That's just one more reason for 2016 instead of 2012.
look for him to drop 15-20 lbs before the convention.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
You guys can sing Christies praises all you want, the fact is, he is far too fat to be elected president. If he wants the job, he will have to lose some weight to get superficial America to vote for him.
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I agree with you...what you dont see about christie is...he cant walk from his car to his office without stopping a couple of times...at town hall meetings sweat is pouring off him...thats a normal trait of the morbidly obese...he has asthma and was recently hospitalized being unable to breath...hes in horrid physical condition. What he does have in his favor is that hes a young man still in his 40s...Theres alot of people carrying his water and believe christie is all that...but HEY YO hes never been tested...NEVER on a national stage...no one has dug into past yet....no investigative reporting....no one can know at this point what christie can be as a presidential candidate in the general....it seems whos the most far right will get the most support from the GOP in the primary...
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Dude that guy is so fw it plays out.at he drops 15 to 20 pounds taking a dump. He needs to drop at least 200 pounds.
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40-60 lbs to be Prez, but only 20 to be Convention keynoter.
What he does have is more substance/credibility/candidness than anyone else running. And that can't be changed as easily as weight.
Let's see how it plays out.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
What does Christie have to offer that isn't already in the current GOP line-up?

Haymaket, why the concerns about his stamina? Is he ill? Recovering from illness or injury?
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His obesity. He recently collapsed and went to the hospital. A presidential campaign is a physically and mentally grueling marathon for even the fittest person. for someone dangerously overweight and with health issues as Christie is - it has to be a concern.
 
Christie is a moderate Republican. He could therefore beat Obama, but he might not be able to win the GOP nomination.
 
Thunder said:
Christie is a moderate Republican. He could therefore beat Obama, but he might not be able to win the GOP nomination.
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heh...try and tell New Jerseyans hes a moderate republican...he raped public workers in New Jersey and gave tax cuts to corporations and tried to give even more tax cuts to the wealthy and couldnt get it through....hes no moderate
 
lpast said:
heh...try and tell New Jerseyans hes a moderate republican...he raped public workers in New Jersey and gave tax cuts to corporations and tried to give even more tax cuts to the wealthy and couldnt get it through....hes no moderate
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he has no problem with the mosque near GZ. that makes him a moderate.

he wants aid for hurricane victims to be passed without consideration of how it will be paid for. that makes him a moderate.
 
Thunder said:
he has no problem with the mosque near GZ. that makes him a moderate.

he wants aid for hurricane victims to be passed without consideration of how it will be paid for. that makes him a moderate.
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If that's all it takes for a Republican to be considered a moderate, then their party (and the country) is in truly sad shape. But I guess I already knew that. :(
 
Thunder said:
he has no problem with the mosque near GZ. that makes him a moderate.

he wants aid for hurricane victims to be passed without consideration of how it will be paid for. that makes him a moderate.
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Really and that makes him a moderate ???
 
haymarket said:
His obesity. He recently collapsed and went to the hospital. A presidential campaign is a physically and mentally grueling marathon for even the fittest person. for someone dangerously overweight and with health issues as Christie is - it has to be a concern.
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All he needs to do is ride a epic chair scooter.

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The word is that Mcdonalds is lobbying for him to run. The bribe is a lifetime of Happy meals :-D. Each box comes with cool toy bat-mobile. Hard to pass up.... k, i got it out of my system :_)
 
Seems to be very different POVs from the left and right on what constitutes a moderate. My opinion on why is the right includes the extreme right wingnuts in the continuum - and before you blast me for partisanship, the left also includes extreme left wingnuts in the equation which pulls their view of moderate to the left.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
Seems to be very different POVs from the left and right on what constitutes a moderate. My opinion on why is the right includes the extreme right wingnuts in the continuum - and before you blast me for partisanship, the left also includes extreme left wingnuts in the equation which pulls their view of moderate to the left.
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Christie is no moderate when you have Ann Coulter, William Kristol, Laura Ingraham and other far righters foaming at the mouth for him to run
 
I like Christie. I would love for him to run. However, I'm afraid the primary might destroy him. He either will have to conservatize himself, which will hurt his reputation with moderates as their best hope for the future, or he will stay moderate and be attacked by everyone on the stage. Because he is a star of the Republican party with very little justification at the moment, that could really damage him.

I think he'd be better to wait four years. If the Tea Party loses this election and/or 2014, it should result in a small leftward modification that will leave a perfect opening for someone like Christie. Better to run on the offense than on the defense.
 
lpast said:


New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is reconsidering his decision not to enter the 2012 presidential race — and he says he will let top Republican donors know within days about his plans, Newsmax has learned.



Chris Christie Reconsidering 2012 Run, Will Decide in Days
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I'm a supporter of Christie, but I hope he doesn't run.

The reason why is because of the same reasons he himself said he would put off running for President - to become more seasoned and to become more involved in politics on a national level, which is far far different from dealing with state politics.

If I were him, I would go the slower, surer route of politics and build up tons more of credibility and a power base not just among voters but also among the political higher-ups and campaign contributors. That way when he does run for President he'll be in a much better position to do so and it will seem more assured.
 
samsmart said:
I'm a supporter of Christie, but I hope he doesn't run.

The reason why is because of the same reasons he himself said he would put off running for President - to become more seasoned and to become more involved in politics on a national level, which is far far different from dealing with state politics.

If I were him, I would go the slower, surer route of politics and build up tons more of credibility and a power base not just among voters but also among the political higher-ups and campaign contributors. That way when he does run for President he'll be in a much better position to do so and it will seem more assured.
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If he gets re elected in jersey...
 
Obama had little national level experience. Bush II had his dad's experience but little of his own. Clinton had none. Bush I of course did but he was beat by the guy with little experience.

Kerry, Gore and McCain had all sorts of it.
 
1Perry said:
Obama had little national level experience. Bush II had his dad's experience but little of his own. Clinton had none. Bush I of course did but he was beat by the guy with little experience.

Kerry, Gore and McCain had all sorts of it.
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True...but kerry and Gore were horrible candidates with tons of baggage and McCain ran at exactly the wrong time.
Obama got elected because the media refused to report a single bad fact about him and elevated him to messiah that could do no wrong...no other candidate every enjoyed the total protection and cheerleading by the media that Obama got...
 
lpast said:
True...but kerry and Gore were horrible candidates with tons of baggage and McCain ran at exactly the wrong time.
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McCain ran multiple times.

Obama got elected because the media refused to report a single bad fact about him and elevated him to messiah that could do no wrong...no other candidate every enjoyed the total protection and cheerleading by the media that Obama got...
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He also ran against a weak candidate saddled with the still bad feelings about Bush. What you note certainly helped him beat Hillary but whichever of those two that won was going to beat McCain.
 
1Perry said:
McCain ran multiple times.



He also ran against a weak candidate saddled with the still bad feelings about Bush. What you note certainly helped him beat Hillary but whichever of those two that won was going to beat McCain.
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I agree either or would have beaten McCain for the same reason...the media and the far right teaparty that denigrated Mcain and damaged him badly during the primary...calling him every name in the book from Libtard to Rino and Old man...and the teaparty supporters that said they will stay home in stead of vote for a rino...etc etc etc etc....
McCain did not run multible times...he ran in 2000 and again in 2008
 
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lpast said:
I agree either or would have beaten McCain for the same reason...the media and the far right teaparty that denigrated Mcain and damaged him badly during the primary...calling him every name in the book from Libtard to Rino and Old man...and the teaparty supporters that said they will stay home in stead of vote for a rino...etc etc etc etc....
McCain did not run multible times...he ran in 2000 and again in 2008
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As I noted this wasn't McCains only race. He was beaten years ago by a very weak candidate in Bush II. McCain has never been a strong candidate. There was no Tea Party when McCain was beat, but then again there isn't anything you won't blame them for.
 
jasonxe said:
All he needs to do is ride a epic chair scooter.

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The word is that Mcdonalds is lobbying for him to run. The bribe is a lifetime of Happy meals :-D. Each box comes with cool toy bat-mobile. Hard to pass up.... k, i got it out of my system :_)
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He could probably get a tax write-off on the purchase of this scooter as well.
 
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