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It's so easy to sit back and demand evidence then play passive dismisser. I kind of am doubting the sincerity you may have for wanting to know anything but rather believe your will is to just sit back and toss stones. Anyways, watch this. Kind of sums it up nicely I think.
Why? You being a conservative and all I thought you were of the mind that they deserve special attention and hoisted on a pedestal more than others.
I made this arguement years ago. I was dismissed pretty much because it was Clinton that signed it's demise. The problem is it could have been passed already but instead we got the garbage that is Dodd/Frank.
If you can find where I ever made that arguement I'll own up to it.
It's so easy to sit back and demand evidence then play passive dismisser. I kind of am doubting the sincerity you may have for wanting to know anything but rather believe your will is to just sit back and toss stones. Anyways, watch this. Kind of sums it up nicely I think.
I get the fact that certain derivatives are harmful, others however are critical. For example what would farmers do without being able to lock in prices with future contracts.
breaking up Glass-Stegall was a mistake of the Clinton administration.
Regulation was poor under Greenspan, true. Enron brought on Sarbanes Oxley which was not mentioned. The crisis has brought on Dodd-Frank which will take time to get implemented. Fannie, Freddie and the FHA are still out there creating future bad mortgages. not sure that was covered.
1Perry;1059859977 Too bad D.C. has completely forgotten that Sarbanes/Oxley is even on the books..[/QUOTE said:If you ever worked at a corporation you would know that this is alive and well.
I get the fact that certain derivatives are harmful, others however are critical. For example what would farmers do without being able to lock in prices with future contracts. breaking up Glass-Stegall was a mistake of the Clinton administration. Regulation was poor under Greenspan, true. Enron brought on Sarbanes Oxley which was not mentioned. The crisis has brought on Dodd-Frank which will take time to get implemented. Fannie, Freddie and the FHA are still out there creating future bad mortgages. not sure that was covered.
The country has been on a downward spiral for thirty years. It has been held aloft by increasing public and private debt. The piece forgets to mention that people were using the inflated housing prices to turn their houses into piggy banks, living beyond their means through borrowing.
Life is hard, try living in a third world nation with the skills of many in that protest and find out just how hard life can be.
Just seems that in these difficult times it is easier to blame some scapegoat and say he/she is stealing than find a way to pull ourselves up.
Again not sure what these people are hoping for as an endgame. Would they be happier if a corporation like GE set up headquarters in Europe or Asia where their markets are growing?
All kidding aside I have not yet grasped what this is really all about. In my mind, if these folks are against what has been going on in Washington and are not partisans in disguise, then the message here would be somewhat similar to the fiscal points of the tea party. If not, why not?
That was Greenspan who was constantly telling everyone to "tap the equity in your home."
Greenspan managed the regulatory agency that allowed for this but it was up to individual homeowners to take out these second mortgages. Most people could not tell you who Greenspan was.
Perhaps. But this comment seems to scapegoat trying to improve where we live by comparing us to third world. We can and should always be looking to better things where we are and dismiss comparatives to anyone but ourselves as to whether or not we are getting better don't you think?
All I am doing is being truthful and comparing wages and skills in manufacturing. A worker in a third world nation working in a factory may make $2/ hour. In the U.S. with similar productivity the rate may be something like $12-17/ hour and if they get benefits something like $30/ hour.
Don't think it matters where their headquarters are if they offshore the proceeds anyways. Even though I'd like to have their HQ's here, personally, if I had to choose, I'd choose their manufacturing over their HQ's every day of the week and on Sundays.
Wow... Troll much?
The American Spectator admits to being involved in the precipitation of violence at the Air and Space Museum as a means of discrediting the Occupy Movement.
It has been openly reporting about its "plants" among the protesters and their actions to get certain things to occur. Included in this, today, was the presence of - and central role played by - Patrick Howley, its Assistant Editor, in sparking the police reaction and violence.
There seems to be a disagreement between different groups on whether the police "led" them onto the bridge or not. I'll stick with respectable police officers before I'll believe a mob of protesters, especially when those protesters all don't have the same story either......... who to believe?
For you, its whichever story makes the police look the worse......
Now go back to your cave, troll.
Can anyone tell us what this is about? What outcome is the crowd looking for?
It's tough to take this message from someone who was one of the wealthiest Democrats in Congress.
I get the fact that certain derivatives are harmful, others however are critical. For example what would farmers do without being able to lock in prices with future contracts.
It's tough to take this message from someone who was one of the wealthiest members of Congress.
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Thanks for correcting my thoughts, PoweRob. I was wrong, I admit it and am sorry for misleading anyone in regard to it. It was not intentional.To be fair, there are tea partiers out there marching with OWS. IMO the more legitimate ones that are fiscally oriented. Lot of Ron Paul types there.
They are similar to the tea party, they just have different priorities.
Trolling is a job for the police, and their syconphantic supporters in the rightwing
Daily Kos: Conservative Magazine Brags of its Agent Provocateur's Role in Provoking Police Action in D.C. (NEW)
The Spectator removed Howleys article out of embarrassment, but there's a pic of Howley at the event
Thanks for proving me right........
You know... that protesters always accuse police of being with whatever cause they are against......