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FBI Raids Solyndra Headquarters

The regime has to take all this paperwork into custody, so it becomes privileged information and can't be used in a congressional inquiry. Cover up, anyone?

FBI at Solyndra Headquarters | NBC Bay Area

Ummm... the article you linked said they did not take anything from the company.. and that there will be a congressional hearing..

... paranoid delusional... anyone? ...Buehler?
 
Ummm... the article you linked said they did not take anything from the company.. and that there will be a congressional hearing..

... paranoid delusional... anyone? ...Buehler?

The article didn't say that. A Solyndra spokesperson said that. I'm sure her ass is worried about going to prison, along with the rest of the Solynadra honchos, so of course she's going to say that. Like I say, it's a cover up.
 
The article didn't say that. A Solyndra spokesperson said that. I'm sure her ass is worried about going to prison, along with the rest of the Solynadra honchos, so of course she's going to say that. Like I say, it's a cover up.

LOL... yes... in the article, the spokesperson said that.

Either way... I just think it's hilarious that the minute a story breaks, with scant details, one side or both kneejerk to outrageous if slightly paranoid claims against their ideological opponents... carry on.
 
The article didn't say that. A Solyndra spokesperson said that. I'm sure her ass is worried about going to prison, along with the rest of the Solynadra honchos, so of course she's going to say that. Like I say, it's a cover up.

"It's been an interesting [two weeks]" says Solyndra spokesperson Dave Miller, referring to both the bankruptcy and the FBI raid. "I don't know what they're looking for...but I haven't seen them take anything."

That was in the article. Therefore the article said it. You are wrong.

And Solyndra's problems have far more to do with Chinese dumping. This was pointed out in your earlier thread. The one you appear to be running away from.
 
I don't understand the need for an FBI raid if their biggest problem was Chinese dumping.
 
I don't understand the need for an FBI raid if their biggest problem was Chinese dumping.

Exactly! What set this off was just weeks previous the directors of Solyndra reported that the company's finances were strong. Then abruptly files bankruptcy after tapping 90% of the loan money. But it wasn't just the FBI, but the department of energy as well.
 
Exactly! What set this off was just weeks previous the directors of Solyndra reported that the company's finances were strong. Then abruptly files bankruptcy after tapping 90% of the loan money. But it wasn't just the FBI, but the department of energy as well.

So perhaps their biggest problem was not Chinese dumping..........I don't know but I doubt we really ever find out either.
 
Ummm... the article you linked said they did not take anything from the company.. and that there will be a congressional hearing..

... paranoid delusional... anyone? ...Buehler?
He meant they're collecting the really damning evidence.....autographed photos of Obama from last year's speech. :mrgreen:
 
That was in the article. Therefore the article said it. You are wrong.

And Solyndra's problems have far more to do with Chinese dumping. This was pointed out in your earlier thread. The one you appear to be running away from.

Awwww! Looks like I'm not wrong.

Solyndra spokesman David Miller confirmed agents visited Harrison's home on the same day the FBI and Energy Department Inspector General seized boxes of records from the company's headquarters.

Feds Visit Homes of Solyndra CEO, Execs - ABC News
 
Awwww! Looks like I'm not wrong.

Let's go over this again:

You stated: "The article didn't say that." To which I replied with the quote of a spokesperson within the article saying exactly that. You replying that boxes were taken does not prove your statement that the article did not say boxes weren't taken was correct.

The article clearly cites a worker saying boxes were not taken. You are still wrong on what I said you are wrong on.
 
First fast and furious now this. The Chicago thug may be in serious trouble here.

Are you sure you want to set the precedent that presidents are directly responsible for the actions of bureaucrats and private interests?

Love the selective moral subjectivity. Classic two party short term memory loss.
 
Are you sure you want to set the precedent that presidents are directly responsible for the actions of bureaucrats and private interests?

Love the selective moral subjectivity. Classic two party short term memory loss.

Dirty is dirty - don't care which of the two party's is involved. :shrug:
 
Dirty is dirty - don't care which of the two party's is involved. :shrug:

And that makes hyperbolic projection justified?

All we know right now is that a company that received half a billion lied about it's finances and then filed bankruptcy. All one can conclude at this point is gross mismanagement or criminal activity of those that ran the company. Taking it beyond that at this point is HIGHLY speculative.

Under this logic, anyone making loans to a failed business is as culpable in it's failure as those actually responsible for working the business plan.

The investigation is starting where it should... and must progress where the actual evidence leads. If that doesn't stop until the white house, so be it... but to make proclamations absent an investigation is emo-reactionism... don't care which two parties are involved.
 
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And that makes hyperbolic projection justified?

All we know right now is that a company that received half a billion lied about it's finances and then filed bankruptcy. All one can conclude at this point is gross mismanagement or criminal activity of those that ran the company. Taking it beyond that at this point is HIGHLY speculative.

Under this logic, anyone making loans to a failed business is as culpable in it's failure as those actually responsible for working the business plan.

The investigation is starting where it should... and must progress where the actual evidence leads. If that doesn't stop until the white house, so be it... but to make proclamations absent an investigation is emo-reactionism... don't care which two parties are involved.

You are conveniently leaving out the fact that this comps owner was an Obama bundler and visited white house over 20 times.Was he paid for this with our tax dollars?
 
You are conveniently leaving out the fact that this comps owner was an Obama bundler and visited white house over 20 times.Was he paid for this with our tax dollars?

So you have no problems going after the energy interests that met with Cheney in secret meetings? Good to hear. Proceed.
 
So you have no problems going after the energy interests that met with Cheney in secret meetings? Good to hear. Proceed.
Typical lib response when painted into a corner with facts, change the subject as fast as possible and hope your opponent bites on lure you are trolling with. Sorry, troll elsewhere.:)
 
If the money trail is seedy and there are legal implications, I don't really see a problem with the raid. :shrug:

Are we focusing on this case because of bankruptcy or because it's a "green energy" company? Because frankly, any company that doesn't play by the rules deserves to have the full weight of the law come down on them. Part of our economic recovery should involve holding businesses more accountable for their practices.
 
"I don't know what they're looking for...but I haven't seen them take anything."

Does this idiot truly not understand what the issue is? Millions loaned out and the company goes under faster than a pancake flipped in a skillet. . .adn he doesn't understand what's wrong?

Well - then that explains everything that happened at Solyndra: they put their company in the hands of fools.
 
If the money trail is seedy and there are legal implications, I don't really see a problem with the raid. :shrug:

Are we focusing on this case because of bankruptcy or because it's a "green energy" company? Because frankly, any company that doesn't play by the rules deserves to have the full weight of the law come down on them. Part of our economic recovery should involve holding businesses more accountable for their practices.

It shouldn't include giving a business like this a half billion dollars.
 
It shouldn't include giving a business like this a half billion dollars.

Well that's how a lot of businesses start - if they were a real business and turned into success then it wouldn't matter - they would have profited, paid back those federal low-interest loans.

But I still agree: the federal government shouldn't be loaning anything ot anyone - that's what individuals and banks are for.
 
Typical lib response when painted into a corner with facts, change the subject as fast as possible and hope your opponent bites on lure you are trolling with. Sorry, troll elsewhere.:)

Ockam is a liberal?

That is hilarious.

So much for you being credible.

The classic sign of a no-skill debater is when they rely upon labeling people rather then addressing their arguments. Just like you did.
 
Ockam is a liberal?

That is hilarious.

So much for you being credible.

The classic sign of a no-skill debater is when they rely upon labeling people rather then addressing their arguments. Just like you did.
I agree, I actually like what Ockman has to post most of the time.
 
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