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Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

The target was not the Tea Party, since the survey started in 2006. They called back the people they polled from the religious survey and asked them how the felt about the Tea Party. Pretty hard to have an agenda when the survey was before the agenda could exist.

I didn't say the Tea Pary was THE target I just asked for a list of all the targets.
 
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They targeted a bunch of random people asking them questions about their religious beliefs. I posted the questions earlier. The sad thing is I share the believe we need to cut spending but I feel like I am viewed as the enemy because I want to do it differently. Different path same destination.
 
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Many environmental groups the started out with good intentions but now fight the very things they once screamed for, and now it's all about the Benjamins.
 
http://americangrace.org/FT scores2.pdf

From the article.
The questions we have asked on our survey are are listed below and borrowed from standard questions used in other national polls, about the Tea Party and American politics in general. Our 2006 survey was a large (N=3000, as we reported in the op-ed), randomly chosen, nationally representative sample—all ages, all classes, all races, all parties, all religions, and so forth, and each in the right proportions. The survey firm we employed drew the sample from the national population using random digit dialing, whereby every phone number in the country has an equal probability of being called. In 2011 we interviewed everyone from the original sample who is still alive and traceable, and virtually everyone we could find this year agreed to the re-interview.

From subarticle :
Many readers of the op-ed piece written by David E. Campbell and Robert D. Putnam in the August 17, 2011 issue of the New York Times have inquired about the underlying questions.

Below is the exact wording of many of the questions we used in the nationally-representative “Faith Matters” telephone survey. [More information on the first two waves (2006, 2007) of the Faith Matters Survey can be found in Appendix 1 of American Grace on pp. 557-561.]

Tea Party Support
QUESTION -- From what you know, do you strongly agree, agree, disagree or strongly disagree with the Tea Party movement, or don’t you have an opinion either way?

-Strongly Agree
-Agree
-Don’t have an opinion either way
-Disagree
-Strongly Disagree

Views towards Blacks/Tea Party
QUESTION -- I’d like to get your feelings toward a number of well-known groups. I’ll read the name of a group and I’d like you to rate that group using something we call the feeling thermometer. Ratings between 50 degrees and 100 degrees mean that you feel favorable and warm toward the group. Ratings between 0 degrees and 50 degrees mean that you don’t feel favorable and don’t care too much for that group. You would rate the group at the 50-degree mark if you don’t feel particularly warm or cold toward the group. Feel free to use the entire extent of the scale.

Note: the order of the groups was randomized for each respondent.
The Tea Party movement (asked in 2011)

Blacks (asked in 2006)

In addition, over the course of our 5-year study we have asked about other groups.

They are:

Whites
Asian-Americans
Latinos or Hispanic-Americans
The political movement called the Christian Right
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Catholics
Evangelical Christians
Mainline Protestants
Mormons
People who are not religious
Poor people
Rich people
Conservatives
Liberals
Buddhists
Sarah Palin
Barack Obama
Democrats
Republicans
Gay Men and Lesbians, that is, homosexuals

No crosstabs. We have to take them at their word there was no social agenda in place here. Look at the order of the questions and groups for elicited opinions and look at what questions are NOT there. Size of government was asked, no idea what the response was, etc. Also directly from them :
At some point, as of yet unspecified, the actual data will be released into the public domain for other scholars to analyze these.
Uhhh, they arent releasing their actual data.

Transparency in data is a key point in polling reliability. This has almost no transparency.

PS Jubalaya here ya go.
 
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Those few don't realize that Tea Party folk are PURE AMERICAN PATRIOTS.

They are for the getting our nation back on the right track. The U.S has gotten too lazy, spoiled, perverted, and sold itself out to other countries like China, Taiwan, Japan.
A dimented corrupt liberal politics in DC and throughout is destroying our nation.
We have a president Obama that is bank rolling our nation. In three years he has sent trillions of out dollars to muslim countries.
All this must be stopped.
 
Those few don't realize that Tea Party folk are PURE AMERICAN PATRIOTS.

They are for the getting our nation back on the right track. The U.S has gotten too lazy, spoiled, perverted, and sold itself out to other countries like China, Taiwan, Japan.
A dimented corrupt liberal politics in DC and throughout is destroying our nation.
We have a president Obama that is bank rolling our nation. In three years he has sent trillions of out dollars to muslim countries.
All this must be stopped.

Conservatives have contributed enough to the corruption and dysfunction of Washington politics that it might be time to stop playing the victim card and start thinking about taking some responsibility.
 
Those few don't realize that Tea Party folk are PURE AMERICAN PATRIOTS.

They are for the getting our nation back on the right track. The U.S has gotten too lazy, spoiled, perverted, and sold itself out to other countries like China, Taiwan, Japan.
A dimented corrupt liberal politics in DC and throughout is destroying our nation.
We have a president Obama that is bank rolling our nation. In three years he has sent trillions of out dollars to muslim countries.
All this must be stopped.
If you are real, you can't possibly say with a straight face that the tea baggers are for getting the nation back on the right track when the tea baggers were the very ones screaming that we default on our national debt during the circus brawl over the debt ceiling.
Had tea baggers gotten their way, the nation would've been destroyed in artificially created depression.
 
Conservatives have contributed enough to the corruption and dysfunction of Washington politics that it might be time to stop playing the victim card and start thinking about taking some responsibility.
I never understood why conservatives are constantly self- victimizing when their policies and ideology are the ones that got us into this mess in the first place.
It was conservative ideology that got us into the great depression, it was conservative ideology that got us into the great recession - as Bush sr put it, voodoo economics is indeed bull****.
 
If you are real, you can't possibly say with a straight face that the tea baggers are for getting the nation back on the right track when the tea baggers were the very ones screaming that we default on our national debt during the circus brawl over the debt ceiling.
Had tea baggers gotten their way, the nation would've been destroyed in artificially created depression.

Link?......
 
I never understood why conservatives are constantly self- victimizing

Its not so much a conservative strategy as it is a conservative media strategy.

For years "liberals" were lambasted as always playing victim.

And yet "conservatives" at every turn cry that they're victims of bias, and marginalization, that their religion, their language and their way of life are under threat from liberals, leftists, communists, socialists, muslims, mexicans and hollywood.

I put it all in quotation marks because I'm not trying to make sweeping generalities about conservatives themselves, more their media, specifically fox news.

Edit: Oh jesus I almost forgot the gays... those evil, America hating muslim secularists.
 
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Its not so much a conservative strategy as it is a conservative media strategy.

For years "liberals" were lambasted as always playing victim.

And yet "conservatives" at every turn cry that they're victims of bias, and marginalization, that their religion, their language and their way of life are under threat from liberals, leftists, communists, socialists, muslims, mexicans and hollywood.

I put it all in quotation marks because I'm not trying to make sweeping generalities about conservatives themselves, more their media, specifically fox news.

Edit: Oh jesus I almost forgot the gays... those evil, America hating muslim secularists.

Stewart has a funny segment on this.
 
I never understood why conservatives are constantly self- victimizing when their policies and ideology are the ones that got us into this mess in the first place.
It was conservative ideology that got us into the great depression, it was conservative ideology that got us into the great recession - as Bush sr put it, voodoo economics is indeed bull****.

And just like when FDR was president, progressive economic policies still don't work.
 
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And just like when FDR was president, progressive economic policies still don't work.

Didn't work at restoring the private sector, but I don't think that was a goal of FDR, or is a plausible goal for anyone.
 
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